What`s the point in buying consoles if they take PC like approaches?

Gamezone

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Some of the predictions is that the console generation after Xbox One and Playstation 4 will take PC like approaches, with the ability to refresh them with forward compatibility at some point, just like PC`s are today.

Besides the exclusive games, what`s the point in buying such systems over a PC? Digital games on PC are already a lot cheaper than consoles.
 
No operating system overhead [well... okay xb1 takes the cake here... maybe I should say LOWER instead of no]
exactly the same hardware in every box [with minor adjustments as time goes on, or compatibility provided by the platform holder.]
Certification processes per platform holder
Online communities per platform holder

Why stick to an iPhone or Android phone? (Many of the same things apply here, without a PC alternative so to speak.)
 
Some of the predictions is that the console generation after Xbox One and Playstation 4 will take PC like approaches, with the ability to refresh them with forward compatibility at some point, just like PC`s are today.

Besides the exclusive games, what`s the point in buying such systems over a PC? Digital games on PC are already a lot cheaper than consoles.

Because they are cheap, has retail market to buy/share/sell/rent physical games (which is cheaper than digital goods) and Plug N Play.

EDIT: Consoles also create jobs for many people around the world due to retail market which is good for industry.
 
Plug and play. Also, why do people exclude what they know is a crucial reason in order to get their point across? Exclusives play a large role also.
 
You kind of answered your own question. You get access to exclusive titles in addition to multiplatform titles. From a gaming experience you have a lot of the bases covered. You also don't have to worry about hardware specs, or if certain things are up to date. Not to mention it's pretty annoying concerning yourself whether this title is coming out on pc. And if it is...when. A month later, a year later etc. That's not saying that doesn't happen on consoles, I.e rise of the tomb raider.

And they are cheap.

The worst thing about them is gettin unoptimized trash like Just Cause 3.
 
Besides the exclusive games

That's the main reason. Also, being able to buy any game for the system at any point in the present or future without having to check requirements to see if your hardware can run it or not.
 
Do you guys think that the next generation will be heading this route?

So far, nothing drastic has happened to convince me that it wouldn't change course very much. Consoles are not going away yet. PC is not dead. Apple still isn't dead either.
 
What's the point in buying any luxury item? It's not as if jeans from expensive brands necessarily look or feel better than cheaper ones, just to give an example.
 
For the average person: it's easy (even though it's at the point where there is no appreciable difference between issues--it's definitely easier to patch a game on Steam than it is on my PS4 these days).

For the hardcore: fanboyism, exclusives. Some people are just super invested in the console ecosystem. Sure, you can do the exact same things with a PC, but for some people, things like "Sony" and "Nintendo" are weird emotional bonds that they can't just back out of, even if there were no exclusives.

Me, I just like gadgets. Also it's for work.
 
I hate having driver problems and a PC that may run a game fine and another one like poop. And a pc is so expensive!

So for me, kinda like the others. Plug and play, exclusives, no os problems. Ease of use mostly.
 
I hate having driver problems and a PC that may run a game fine and another one like poop. And a pc is so expensive!

So for me, kinda like the others. Plug and play, exclusives, no os problems. Ease of use mostly.

People always bring up driver issues in these threads, I haven't had a driver issue on pc in a long ass time. Maybe I'm just lucky /shrug.
 
Cost and ease of use. Whether those of us who are PC gamers like it or not, PC gaming is still nowhere near the level of plug n play functionality that console gaming is. I know many console gamers who wouldn't know a driver update (not driver problems, which tend to be rare nowadays) if it smacked them in the face - and nor do they want to. They just want to play their games.
 
Closed system is a big plus here for me. I don't have to care about upgrading anything... I just buy the game and I want and it works. Also I don't have to care about anything going on the system beside games, on PC there are tons of things as most likely you're not only using to for gaming itself. I work the whole day on my pc and I just don't want to use a mouse after work etc. Just the couch... me... and my controller, so much more comfortable.
 
You can read DVD or BR on your PC too.

Still, the mass market buys dedicated players.

People come into the supermarket, see VG stands with lots of advertising and easy plug and play, and they buy it like they buy everything else.

Hardcore gamers will buy games on PC (and consoles for exclusives).
 
They're much easier to use. Just hook them up to your TV and play. Don't bother with anything else.

Except that's not exactly true anymore. Just Cause taking 15 minutes to load, Fallout 4 running like shit, and huge size patches day one. Plug and play only exists for Wii U.

Then again I say PC + Wii U is the way to go.
 
I work the whole day on my pc and I just don't want to use a mouse after work etc. Just the couch... me... and my controller, so much more comfortable.

Despite my previous post, I don't think what you describe is necessarily an issue for PC anymore. I use controller for most of my PC gaming, as despite having a good K&M I just prefer controllers. Turn on Steam Big Picture, and PC gaming with a controller from the couch is as easy as console gaming (one of the reasons I have HDMI from my PC running to my TV as well as my monitor).
 
The reason is as many stated. Simplicity. That is, if they release upgrades it will be easily identifiable and you don't need to tweak it. You don't need to research, you just buy it and install it. No need to worry about brands or parts unless you're going cheap 3rd party parts if they become a thing.
 
I know that copy of Fallout 4 I see at the store is going to run just the same as it does on every PS4. Just for example Borderlands 2 was really awkward with friends since half of us ran it with shit framerate, if we had gotten it on console whatever issues would have been the same.
 
Despite my previous post, I don't think what you describe is necessarily an issue for PC anymore. I use controller for most of my PC gaming, as despite having a good K&M I just prefer controllers. Turn on Steam Big Picture, and PC gaming with a controller from the couch is as easy as console gaming.

Maybe for the controller... the other points are still valid. I don't want to use PCs for anything else than work anymore. I prefer a closed system for gaming, it's just much more comfortable.

EDIT: Sry should have read your post and previous post more clearly. Still... using a pc for gaming will never be as comfortable as console gaming, but this is totally fine. Consoles main reason is gaming. PCs give you a lot more freedom, but this is just not a plus in gaming in my opinion. (Except modding)
 
Maybe for the controller... the other points are still valid. I don't want to use PCs for anything else than work anymore. I prefer a closed system for gaming, it's just much more comfortable.

This is pretty much my reason for preferring console gaming. I still play some games on PC, but it's more of an 90/10 split.
 
Except that's not exactly true anymore. Just Cause taking 15 minutes to load, Fallout 4 running like shit, and huge size patches day one. Plug and play only exists for Wii U.

Then again I say PC + Wii U is the way to go.

Fallout 4 especially on ps4 post patch does not run like shit. Go read the DF article. Stop spouting hyperbolic inaccuracies, that's how a thread like this turns into a shit fest that we are starting to see on GAF so much this past year.

And the wiiu is the only thing that's plug in play? Whaa---
 
As long as consoles maintain ease of use, community ecosystem, and exclusivities, they'll be desirable even if/when changes are introduced that maybe cross over to the PC realm.

Because that's all it is, really. It's just hardware. PC bits and bobs customised and stuck in a box with an OS that makes it user friendly and a closed architecture that ensures you never have to think about upgrading until the next cycle. PC gaming has never been easier or more accessible than it is today, both in building and using, but consoles still reign supreme. Most update tasks are automated by hardware specific services, so otherwise you just plug it in, put in a disk, and you're good to go.
 
OP I've felt this way for a few years now. I'm very excited for what the PS4 has to offer, and I understand the reasons as to why they're doing what they're doing, but I do think that it's a huge shame that hardware is basically becoming standardized across the board.

We're losing out on a considerable amount of potential for unique, eccentric, distinct and more creative approaches to building games and hardware for the sake of standardization, efficiency, cross-platform and 3rd party friendliness, etc. Consoles feel far less distinct today than they did before, and bridging the gap between PC with home consoles in a way where both platforms overlap with genres and multiplat titles feels awfully redundant.

The only remaining beacon in this regard so far is Nintendo. For better or worse, they seem to be the only ones willing to really try comparatively left-field ideas. But even then, their approach seems to be more focused on shaking up how the player interacts with and controls games rather than really going a different route in terms of inner-parts and PC like structure. (Except for level of power I guess.)
 
Do you guys think that the next generation will be heading this route?

I think it's very possible the next Xbox goes a tweaked version of this route. It could be a Windows PC in a TV friendly wrapper, maybe static hardware but mainly existing as an entry level option and baseline. Having Xbox games just run on PC could give them access to a portion of the market that their competitors can't really tap into. They've thrown this idea around on the Bombcast in the last few months and I think it makes a lot of sense, if not in the next gen but maybe in the future. It may not matter to Microsoft where you play your games, as long as they still sell.
 
The time from system start up to actually playing the game is much quicker on consoles than PC. Consoles are a lot easier to transport and move and local multiplayer is overall much easier. Much cheaper as well.
 
Reasons why many console gamers might stick to consoles….

- Cost of hardware
- Convienience
- Resale market on retail games
- Console exclusives
- Certain earlier releases
- Often exclusive next gen engines
- Friends and user base
- Preference to play with a control pad orientated consumer base
- UI or feature set preferences
- Speed and ease of use
- Plus more
 
Kind of answered your own question, OP. It's purely down to the exclusives. Fact of the matter is, most of the franchises I enjoy playing aren't on PC. Aside from that, my friends play on consoles.



Wut?

Nintendo tends to release games that are tested VERY well. How often do people really complain about problems with their games on Wii U? I'm talking about quality assurance stuff mind you. Something like Halo: MCC has never been fixed. It's much better yeah but console games aren't so simple anymore. We can't just pop in a disc and get in the game anymore. At least on PC there are way for the user to manage things on their own for the most part thanks to the community.

Fallout 4 especially on ps4 post patch does not run like shit. Go read the DF article. Stop spouting hyperbolic inaccuracies, that's how a thread like this turns into a shit fest that we are starting to see on GAF so much this past year.

And the wiiu is the only thing that's plug in play? Whaa---

What he said is also hyperbolic inaccuracies since PC games for a long time now could be be played on TV'a over HDMI. Also, what I mean about the Wii U is about Nintendo's stance on bug squashing and patching. Their games tend to be relatively clean when it comes to bugs and such. Compared to Fallout 4, Halo: MCC or even technical problems like with Just Cause 3'a insane load times.
 
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