Omg it must be a NX meeting!
Rich kid birthday party hype!
Or they could be having Spaceworld up there on the 2nd floor, we will never know.
Yes, it's not.
Omg it must be a NX meeting!
Or they're celebrating Reggies birthday by inviting Chucke Cheese
If this is the case, I guess Nintendo may indeed be going the shared platform route with shared games on a physical level. Though judging by the way they've been talking about the NX, it's likely that the handheld is under a different code name.http://www.screencritics.co.uk/2016...x-about-ditch-the-disc-drives-for-cartridges/
This article suggests that Macronix is developing 32GB cartridges for Nintendo.
http://www.screencritics.co.uk/2016...x-about-ditch-the-disc-drives-for-cartridges/
This article suggests that Macronix is developing 32GB cartridges for Nintendo.
http://www.screencritics.co.uk/2016...x-about-ditch-the-disc-drives-for-cartridges/
This article suggests that Macronix is developing 32GB cartridges for Nintendo.
That article reads like someone essentially following this thread and summing up the Macronix parts. I'm not sure what other source they have which could indicate 32 GB, although it could just be a misunderstanding of the Macronix 32nm process.
So it's a classic case of GAF-Internet-GAF with some misinterpretations along the way.This is a neogaf sourced article, the 32gb claim is probably from someone here speculating about that a few days ago.
He even gives credit to Jim_Casher for the translation.So it's a classic case of GAF-Internet-GAF with some misinterpretations along the way.
While technically true, the evidence of a handheld coming is practically non-existent. We have that Ori dev and... Well, not much else.
WSJ said:The exact shape of the NX hardware isn’t yet clear. People familiar with the development plans said Nintendo would likely include both a console and at least one mobile unit that could either be used in conjunction with the console or taken on the road for separate use
It's higher than you think, but lower than some hope for.
You are right, theres little information/"leaks" about the handeld but there are no/just a few reliable news about the console aswell. I´m stil believing Nintendo will release both devices at the same time or close to each other (4 weeks).
One of the most reliable leaks is the WSJ rumor last October which mentioned a handheld part.
We have Matt who talked about the resolution of the handeld in August last year. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=151096244&postcount=209
On the other hand LCGeek said that the NX CPU will be a little better than the XBO/PS4 CPU and Emily Rogers talked about the strong first party lineup in the first year, but she didnt say anything about the hardware/concept of the NX besides "it has good specs". A lot of rumors only mention the console because its easier to compare, more "fun" to speculate and the west simply doesn´t care about the handheld IMO.
We know for sure Nintendo delayed the NX launch because they want to provide a great software support throughout the first year. Assuming the NX console and handheld share nearly all games. Why would Nintendo invest a huge amount of their ressources to develop console games and neglect their strong handheld business? All speculated NX console launch games could be also released on the handheld and move hardware. IMO business wise it makes the most sense to release both devices at the same time and let the consumer decide which one they prefer.
Zelda OoT/MM was a huge succes on the 3ds. The audience is there and im sure would love to play the new 3d Zelda. Even a downgraded Zelda U/NX would be a great showpiece of the hardware power and sell a lot of systems.
Theres going to be a new 3d-Mario from EAD Tokyo. 3d Land was also a great succes and sold for the time more copies than their 2d-part.
Theres no way the next smash wont be on the handheld, nearly doubing the Wii U sales.
One thing was quite remarkable. I´m talking about the DQ XI announcement and the huge interest from Square Enix. Does anyone believe they are excited because Nintendo will release a new console? Its obvious they only care about the handeld. They just want a powerful hardware to sell their games in Japan, the only healthy market for Nintendo.
One thing I'm hoping for is that the NX will have at least 500gb of storage. That was a huge problem with the Wii U. Wouldn't surprise me if it was something they don't want to repeat with the NX.
That makes no sense, it adds extra cost that doesn't need. It needs lot's of storage. so at least 500 gb is the minimum the NX should have.Eh, please no? Keep the cost down, and those who want plenty of storage can buy external storage like they did with WiiU.
Since it adds at least $50 dollars in cost for an external drive when they can put a hard drive in and not have to worry about it. They should also add external hard drive support but the system needs a internal hard drive.I don't understand why people want lots of storage in the consoles. It only drives the price up. Everybody nowadays buys external drives anyways.
Eh, please no? Keep the cost down, and those who want plenty of storage can buy external storage like they did with WiiU.
So does your wish.That makes no sense, it adds extra cost that doesn't need. It needs lot's of storage. so at least 500 gb is the minimum the NX should have.
lol My wish of it having an internal hard drive should be a given. Anyone saying it should only support external hard drives and that it shouldn't have an internal drive is not only wrong, they are out of touch with reality.So does your wish.
Exactly if they want to sell games digitally, they need to have space on the console. Yes it should also have an external hard drive but it needs space on the system.This is not the way to think in 2017. Storage isn't just some extra for power users. Digital distribution is likely to be a huge part of Nintendo's strategy, especially if it's a console using a storage medium that tops out at only 32GB (unless they're intentionally shutting out western third-parties from the get-go and we end up with Nintendo 64 the Second).
So does your wish.
So does your wish.
I'm pretty sure no one is advocating getting rid of a HDD all together, rather, the idea is that they can use a relatively small (128gb) internal drive then maybe sell a cheapish Nintendo branded external drive or SCD separately or as a bundle.
That might be okay depending on how much the system costs and how much storage they have in the console. If they pull a wii u and have barely any storage with a high price than that's not acceptable even with external hard drive support.I'm pretty sure no one is advocating getting rid of a HDD all together, rather, the idea is that they can use a relatively small (128gb) internal drive then maybe sell a cheapish Nintendo branded external drive or SCD separately or as a bundle.
Yep. Nobody is saying "don't put any hdd in there". Some are saying if it raises the price to much for 500GB then put less.I'm pretty sure no one is advocating getting rid of a HDD all together, rather, the idea is that they can use a relatively small (128gb) internal drive then maybe sell a cheapish Nintendo branded external drive or SCD separately or as a bundle.
Some people don't want something extra hanging out of their console. Besides that, a 120GB drive isn't even a good deal. They don't really make those anymore, so a 500GB drive would be so close in price that the effect on the BOM won't matter unless they're only like $5 away from taking a loss.
Nintendo fans are seriously the only ones who would even consider wanting something like this to happen. I don't get it, but I think I do get why Nintendo is as far behind the times as they are.
Yep. Nobody is saying "don't put any hdd in there". Some are saying if it raises the price to much for 500GB then put less.
Just like I don't care for BC if it raises the cost. I don't care for a controller with a screen either. Yeah, the Gamepad is cool don't get me wrong, but again I hope they don't do it again if it raises the price.
This is not the way to think in 2017. Storage isn't just some extra for power users. Digital distribution is likely to be a huge part of Nintendo's strategy, especially if it's a console using a storage medium that tops out at only 32GB (unless they're intentionally shutting out western third-parties from the get-go and we end up with Nintendo 64 the Second).
Some people don't want something extra hanging out of their console. Besides that, a 120GB drive isn't even a good deal. They don't really make those anymore, so a 500GB drive would be so close in price that the effect on the BOM won't matter unless they're only like $5 away from taking a loss.
I'm pretty sure no one is advocating getting rid of a HDD all together, rather, the idea is that they can use a relatively small (128gb) internal drive then maybe sell a cheapish Nintendo branded external drive or SCD separately or as a bundle.
That makes no sense, it adds extra cost that doesn't need. It needs lot's of storage. so at least 500 gb is the minimum the NX should have.
What I'm saying is no one in this thread is even implying that they don't want a hard drive (or SSD) in the console at all, so your arguments about people not wanting internal storage at all aren't really relevant here.
And I'm not terribly knowledgeable about HDD pricing but if the price jump from 128GB to 512GB is relatively low as you said then yeah, it wouldn't make much sense not to use a 512GB drive, unless they want to go super low or even potentially use a solid state drive which, frankly, wouldn't make much sense to me.
I just want to note that the drive capacities you're using here apply to SSDs, not HDDs. HDD storage comes in multiples of 10.
Here's an example of how retail pricing looks:
The column right before the star ratings is the price per GB. Looking at the capacities and speeds, it seems safe to say that the best options are either 500GB @5400RPM or 320GB @7200RPM. With that said, PS4's 500GB HDD at launch was just $1 more than PS3's 320GB drive at the time, so it's even closer than it seems.
I feel like it should be a forgone conclusion that they're going to use an SSD/flash memory.
I just want to note that the drive capacities you're using here apply to SSDs, not HDDs. HDD storage comes in multiples of 10.
Here's an example of how retail pricing looks:
The column right before the star ratings is the price per GB. Looking at the capacities and speeds, it seems safe to say that the best options are either 500GB @5400RPM or 320GB @7200RPM. With that said, PS4's 500GB HDD at launch was just $1 more than PS3's 320GB drive at the time, so it's even closer than it seems.
Some people don't want something extra hanging out of their console. Besides that, a 120GB drive isn't even a good deal. They don't really make those anymore, so a 500GB (or perhaps a 7200RPM 320GB) drive would be so close in price that the effect on the BOM won't matter unless they're only like $5 away from taking a loss.
Nintendo fans are seriously the only ones who would even consider wanting something like this to happen. I don't get it, but I think I do get why Nintendo is as far behind the times as they are.
That makes no sense, it adds extra cost that doesn't need. It needs lot's of storage. so at least 500 gb is the minimum the NX should have.
Since it adds at least $50 dollars in cost for an external drive when they can put a hard drive in and not have to worry about it. They should also add external hard drive support but the system needs a internal hard drive.
This is exactly the way for Nintendo to think in 2017. Especially after the WiiU, a console where the price was too high due to features not everybody cared about.
You are thinking about an actual disk. I think Nintendo would opt again for SSD/Flash.
Exactly. I'd say 320GB tops. Somewhere between 120 and 320. Nintendo will likely go for SDD/Flash storage again, which is faster, smaller, quieter, has no moving parts...
This makes no sense. Why does it need so much storage out of the box? For those that buy digital and lots of DLC. Raising the price for everyone, while not everyone will need it, isn't the best idea if you're struggling to get your product in people's homes. You think Nintendo will add that 500+GB for free? Plenty of people won't need it, and plenty of people have external HDD's to spare, especially smaller HDD's since those have likely been replaced by 2+TB HDD's in their PC setup.
NX won't be bought exclusively by hardcore gamers. It will also be bought for 8-12 year olds that may not purchase any games or DLC digitally.
IT needs internal storage, using the excuse that plenty of people have external hard drives and they should be required to use that is not a good argument.This makes no sense. Why does it need so much storage out of the box? For those that buy digital and lots of DLC. Raising the price for everyone, while not everyone will need it, isn't the best idea if you're struggling to get your product in people's homes. You think Nintendo will add that 500+GB for free? Plenty of people won't need it, and plenty of people have external HDD's to spare, especially smaller HDD's since those have likely been replaced by 2+TB HDD's in their PC setup.
NX won't be bought exclusively by hardcore gamers. It will also be bought for 8-12 year olds that may not purchase any games or DLC digitally.
So, you think that Nintendo cares about cost and their solution is to spend more on expensive storage, rather than just going for a more cost-effective option? Why not, you know, hope that they would go for the cost effective option?
Well, I'll humor this. With flash, 128GB is the absolute max they could include and that's really pushing it at about $30 (32GB chips cost roughly $7.50 a pop). And yes, I'm aware that it'll be cheaper in a year, but like I said $30 is really pushing it. It works though, if you assume that Nintendo won't be making a push for digital distribution at all and will expect it to only be something that power-users care about. This is backwards thinking IMO. Nintendo sees that digital revenue is rising and you think their response to that is to stifle it just to eliminate moving parts? If that seriously happens, several people need to be fired. Absolute insanity and mismanagement.
IT needs internal storage, using the excuse that plenty of people have external hard drives and they should be required to use that is not a good argument.
We can cut off our nuts together.
I'm sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. Smaller power envelope, prices only going down, less mechanical failures hence less after sales costs, smaller, quieter, cooler, faster... You name it. It makes NO sense for them to go with a cluncky mechanical drive. If you want a clunky mechanical drive, you can connect the one of your chosing through USB.
Insanity indeed.
I don't think anybody is asking for the Wii U's storage.Freaking Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is 10 gb, which is more than 1/3 of the entire Wii U storage. I can't play that game anymore because that would require me to uninstall a lot of games and reinstall it which can take a long ass time. Its not unreasonable to want a bigger storage drive.
I don't think anybody is asking for the Wii U's storage.
Freaking Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is 10 gb, which is more than 1/3 of the entire Wii U storage. I can't play that game anymore because that would require me to uninstall a lot of games and reinstall it which can take a long ass time. Its not unreasonable to want a bigger storage drive.
I think you're focusing more on what you want than what's actually best for Nintendo.
I think you're focusing more on what you want than what's actually best for Nintendo. Discouraging digital distribution is the last thing Nintendo needs right now. You might as well say that they should go back to friend codes and not having accounts because the hardcore will deal with it and the average user won't need those features anyway. People complain about Nintendo being out of touch, but if their fans are so out of touch that they think that kids download games in 2016 it's not wonder they have trouble keeping with the times.
How about this: 32GB SKU for you, 500GB HDD + 32GB flash SKU for other people. Makes sense?