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[GnomeChimpsky]

Yes and no. I doubt flat screen entertainment will go far beyond 8k, there's just no point and you have to remember that mastering content for higher resolutions is prohibitively expensive. The tech evolution will move on to panel tech, 3D, mixed reality, smell-o-vision and shit like that.

For VR, smart glasses, eye implants etc there's definitely a point in going to 16k and perhaps even beyond so res will keep going up and will be a big selling point.

 

[E-Cat]

The end-game? Maximum human visual acuity. So what is that, 60 pixels per degree over a 120 degree FoV? 8k seems quite sufficient.

Full FoV VR will require maybe 2-4x more?

 

[RJMacready73]

They'll have to.
Otherwise people will just keep the TVs they buy for ten years and the manufacturers will go out of business.

I'm actually hoping they go back to including powerful front facing speakers in the body of the TV. I never mount anything on a wall. I have no need for a 10mm display. Make mine as thick as necessary to include large speaker enclosures and a nuclear plant-draining amplifier.

My old Sony X930c has those front firing speakers and coupled with the wireless sub the audio from it is absolutely sublime, hell even the picture on this what 8yr old telly is still incredible

 

[FunkMiller]

We've probably just about reached the top of where resolution needs to be. The next advance will be to make TVs even thinner, lighter and easier to put anywhere. Also audio quality is a big thing. There are still no TVs on the market with decent sound systems that don't require a soundbar.

 

[YCoCg]

4k hasn't even been perfected yet and soo much content is still mastered under it, we're hitting the point if diminishing returns, we have to fake 4k on consoles and PC games, the only thing left to provide better quality movie wise is good 35mm and 70mm mastered movies, everything else is under that. Outside of demo material or 70mm movies 8k/16k is pretty damn pointless and is more to do with screen makers panicking because they can't push forward in other areas yet.

 

[Victor Omega]

Streaming will plateau resolution. The only content really pushing anything is gaming and live Sports, and the later is only football.

 

[IDKFA]

The end game will be Star Trek style holodecks. You can't get better than that.

 

[12Goblins]

we already at the end game - it's watching Oppenheimer on your phone

 

[Hugare]

I dont think a lot of people care about audio either past CD quality stereos and home theatre systems everyone got in the 90s.

Heck, pretty sure DVDs destroyed BR and 4k discs combined and DVDs I think are only 480p or 720p. An article I just saw on Google says DVDs outsold BR again just recently.

I follow a films distributor here in Brazil that makes limited runs of some movies

They stopped printing their movies in BR 'cause people were only buying them on DVDs. And this happened recently, like 2022.

Absolute madness. I was pissed lol

Some movies dont come to Brazil, so these independent distributors are all we got. And I want my movies in BR

To me 1080p is enough for most medias, but I preffer my favorite movies at the highest fidelity possible

 

[BadBurger]

There will new amazing stuff coming out until the day we all die. Some will be misses, like 3D, and some will be gems, like 4K and Atmos.

 

[Ikutachi]

Guaranteed lucid dreaming.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I follow a films distributor here in Brazil that makes limited runs of some movies

They stopped printing their movies in BR 'cause people were only buying them on DVDs. And this happened recently, like 2022.

Absolute madness. I was pissed lol

Some movies dont come to Brazil, so these independent distributors are all we got. And I want my movies in BR

To me 1080p is enough for most medias, but I preffer my favorite movies at the highest fidelity possible

It is madness. It's not like BR players are super expensive. They were all dumped for $99 like DVD players were. 4k players are different. They seem to all be $300-ish where I live last time I checked.

But looks like nobody cares about BR's higher res and better quality sound. It shows that the average media buyer would rather stick with a 20 year old DVD player buying $15 DVDs than upgrading to a BR player and buying the better movie at $20.

And if BR cant come close to DVD, there is no way 4k will. Higher costs and streaming has now taken over most people's media watching whose feeds arent even true 1080p or 4k. Most people dont care.

As for higher res TVs, as long as companies keep upping up res as part of the evolution of TVs, people will eventually convert to whatever res becomes standard since everyone has to buy a new TV at some point when their current one breaks. I dont think they even sell 720p or 1080p tvs anymore(?). If so they must be super hard to find. Seems even the most bargain tv at $300 is still a Hisense or TCL 4k smart tv now.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Eyeball implants connected directly to optic nerv.
Was that going on in cyberpunk 2077.

 

[DetectiveBananas]

Yeahhh, I’m good with Blu Ray level shit for the remainder of my life. But people seem to be buying up these 4K Steel Book Collectors Editions for $30-$50, so it’s not stopping anytime soon. I’ll say we’ll peak at 16K 8D goodness

 

[Kings Field]

I think we will get to a certain point where the actual resolution won’t change much but the way we watch it will, at least that the sentiment on the AV forums.

 

[Quasicat]

For me, it’s not the size of the screen or the resolution…it will be the quality of the screen. My dad is still using an HD Plasma and it looks better than the LEDs that are out today. The first time I saw a really good OLED panel, that was far more impressive than a 4k LED that I had at home. I know the micro-LEDs are supposed to be very impressive. That’s where I think the upgrade will happen.

 

[NecrosaroIII]

Neurolink

 

[Bojji]

16k I think, but like 25-30 years from now (as a standard).

 

[digital_ghost]

It is madness. It's not like BR players are super expensive. They were all dumped for $99 like DVD players were. 4k players are different. They seem to all be $300-ish where I live last time I checked.

But looks like nobody cares about BR's higher res and better quality sound. It shows that the average media buyer would rather stick with a 20 year old DVD player buying $15 DVDs than upgrading to a BR player and buying the better movie at $20.

And if BR cant come close to DVD, there is no way 4k will. Higher costs and streaming has now taken over most people's media watching whose feeds arent even true 1080p or 4k. Most people dont care.

As for higher res TVs, as long as companies keep upping up res as part of the evolution of TVs, people will eventually convert to whatever res becomes standard since everyone has to buy a new TV at some point when their current one breaks. I dont think they even sell 720p or 1080p tvs anymore(?). If so they must be super hard to find. Seems even the most bargain tv at $300 is still a Hisense or TCL 4k smart tv now.

The cheapest 4k TV i could find was a $138 one I bought off Walmart online. I just needed a small cheap bedroom tv. This one had built in roku and was 43inches.

I was very impressed as I have not heard of the brand Proscan before.

The main room I got my first LG OLED B4.

I agree Blu-ray players are cheap now. But when they first came out it was $1000+ for any Blu-ray you could find. Which is why when the PS3 came out in 2006 at $599. It was actually the cheapest Blu-ray player you could find.

There will be no endgame resolution as long as people keep buying tv's. If there is, companies will focus on something else as a selling point.

 

[Tieno]

resolution is mostly played out as selling feature. It'll be something different that has significant impact on the viewing experience.

 

[RJMacready73]

I'd love to see them pump all that RnD into making glasses free 3Dee tbf, settle at 4K for 65" and below and 8k for large sizes and make another go at HFR 3D, that tech is just mind-blowing tbh and id love it in the home

 

[Blade2.0]

I could/can actually tell the difference between 1080p and 4k, but I can't between 4k and 8k. And considering 8k has barely gotten a part of the tv market share, i think most people agree with me.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

4K, the EU is putting a power cap on TVs and monitors. And driving mini Oled in the future (which will be the end game tech for TVs) will be power limited.

 

[nightmare-slain]

I think 4K is going to stick around for a very long time and most people will be happy with it. Eventually 8K will be affordable and easy to power but I don’t think it’s going to be worth it.

Right now I really can’t believe anything above 8K is going to be used at home.

Most people on PC still play at 1080p and about a fifth are on 1440p. 4K only makes up a few percentage. I’m going by Steam stats here. And PC players are the ones who are most able to play at 4K.

At some point 4K will be the new 1080p. 8K replacing 1440p…and 16K likely won’t be as popular as 4K is now.

I’d rather stop trying to chase bigger numbers in resolution and use that processing power for better raytracing, engine improvements, and more FPS.

4K 240fps right now feels like the point of diminishing returns. At a push 8K 240fps. Anything beyond that I don’t think is going to be worth it.

I’ve tried 4K and it’s definitely an upgrade but I went back to 1440p and don’t miss it. I’d rather just downsample games to clean the image up a little bit more but generally 1440p is clear enough for me. I have a 360Hz monitor but I can’t tell any difference between 240-360. Going from 144 to 240 is noticeable but not major.

 

[ManaByte]

4K. They aren't producing 8K content. For movies they can't pull any more detail out of a 35MM negative higher than 5K. If there's not video content higher than 4K, there won't be a use for a TV higher than 4K.

 

[Trilobit]

Dreamcasting will probably be the last one with infinite resolution.

 

[T8SC]

8K is on the market already, therefore it's 8k. Whether the content is there or not, the technology is there & available to buy.

I don't believe 16k will be a thing due to limitations of disc size, internet bandwidth and general interest from the public, 4k has been a hard sell and most only buy a 4k tv because their old one broke and it's the standard now. How many of the general population own these:

• UHD BD player & content
• *Internet streaming provider* premium package for 4k content
• SkyUHD
• HDMI 2.0 or above cables

I know plenty of people who have a 4k TV and they sub to the lowest "ads included" Netflix/Disney platform, they don't use physical media and they swapped the TV over but still using their old ass HDMI cables, probably v1.3, because "they fit".

Yes the people on this forum will probably argue "nah bro I have HDMI 2.1 and premium everything" but I'm talking about the general population who walk into Currys and think the Bush TV set to its brightest & highest contrast is good.

 

[thefool]

8-16K

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Isn't there going to be a point where the human eye can perceive no higher a resolution?

It's almost surely already a case. Watched and DF or PS5 Pro reveal? Noticed how they are forced to show you difference in details while zoomed 10x? There is a reason for that - it's because on normal conditions without zooming in you don't see the difference. Once this stops being a selling point they will go the Apple way - "all software, no hardware", they will keep coming with some software tricks and naming them as some innovative solutions.

I didn't know that. EU is a weird place.

Yes, we care about the environment and energy consumption. Someone has to.

 

[RagnarokIV]

My old Sony X930c has those front firing speakers and coupled with the wireless sub the audio from it is absolutely sublime, hell even the picture on this what 8yr old telly is still incredible

How is it holding up? I was going to get one of those back in the day because they looked mean as heck and reminded me of a CRT with the speakers.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Higher framerates.
The fact that some movies have their intended viewing mode lost forever because disc players are still stuck at 24p is completely insane.

 

[RJMacready73]

How is it holding up? I was going to get one of those back in the day because they looked mean as heck and reminded me of a CRT with the speakers.

Other than the slow AF android operating system (4k fire stick resolves that) the picture is still superb and the audio still incredible, I've since replaced it with a C4 OLED and it's now gathering dust in my spare room as I am absolutely loathe to let it go for a pittance. When dusted down it looks like a statement piece, this huge slab of black glass and speakers, I love it

 

[Uhtred]

doesn’t cable TV still stream mostly in 1080i still? I don’t know I cut the cord four years ago.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

Channeled directly into sensory neurons

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

Normies stopped giving a shit after 4K to be honest.

 

[Azelover]

We need tecnology that evolves in different ways. We have 3D, how about holograms? Maybe it will be possible one day. Being able to walk to another side of the screen and see something different...

 

[Musashipan]

They'll come up with something different some time

 

[EverydayBeast]

Progression is never ending, think about this when you buy a new piece of tech at best buy the minute you walk out the store it's considered outdated it's that simple.

 

[kevboard]

8k TVs have too high energy consumption so they're banned in Europe.

Doubt we'll go higher than 4k as long as this ban is in place.

...lol
they are absolutely not banned.
in fact they get pretty cheap if you don't go for high end ones

 

[Valonquar]

Considering most streaming services can't consistently deliver 4k even with a 2GB fiber connection....

 

[SF Kosmo]

There's no real endgame, but we've already hit the point where it's gonna slow waaaay down and where the limitations are more cost/benefit than technical barriers.

For anything beyond 4K to see wife adoption, streaming bandwidth is gonna have to go up or additional breakthroughs in compression are going to have to bring bitrates down. Physical media is not going to push things forward the way it has in the past.

 

[Madserb2023]

Really hard to say if there is an end point. I used to be perfectly happy with 1080p before I saw 1440p and then 4k. I also wasn't sure if having a framerate above 60 was even necessary until I saw 120. The question is more is it worth the money and the time. 8k would be better and I do think that it would be perceptible but would it be worth having a $3000 GPU if that's what it took to do it. I think we are reaching the price limit more than anything else.

 

[Diddy X]

I think we should be done with resolution increase, bring better more affordable screen tech next.

 

[INC]

The last time i was truly wowed by viewing tech, was seeing a 3d movie in my quest 3. Great resolution depth of field amazing and no frame judder, and makes it look like the size of an image screen

Only down side, a toast is strapped to your head