When should Sony launch the PS6?

When should Sony launch the PS6?

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RetroGamingUK

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Now that we're about half way through the generation, looking back it's been quite a strange one…

- Covid causing game development delays
- Covid causing hardware production shortages
- GPU prices being higher due to the likes of bitcoin
- Sony's misguided approach to live service (thankfully mostly cancelled now)
- Diminishing fidelity returns due to the focus on 60fps
- Actor/writer strikes in the US

All of this, coupled with the PS5 Pro has left me feeling that this generation has only just got going.

Apart from the likes of COD, EAFC and indies were finally leaving the cross-gen period.

For me I'd be happy to wait until 2030. One big problem with game development is ray tracing, it (along with UE5) was supposed to solve the long dev times caused by baked lighting. Instead, due to weak GPUs it's ended up increasing dev times due to the performance and quality modes requiring one or the other. For me another generation with baked lighting would be pointless.

I think by 2030 we'll be able to get a solid generational leap at a price that will be comfortable for the mass market.

What are your thoughts?
 
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They should extend PS5 life more, just like Nintendo did with Switch

+ More time to get more of the hardware.
+ PS6 will become a more meaningful upgrade.

Edit: I want to add that there is no rush on Sony to launch soon because:
- Xbox is on life support
- Nintendo Switch 2 capabilities are underwhelming to put it lightly (people got tricked by the Marketing of VRR, HDR, 120hz which Switch 2 excels at nothing of them)
 
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I think overall Sony should just wait until parts are more afordable for them and thus afordable for us people to buy it. There's been tons of rumors all over youtube like OMG the next gen console next year 2026, they be $1,000 bucks! It's like man, if the consoles be that much I would gladly just give up gaming and go oh well, I'll just watch TV and movies and youtube than. I generally think that next gen consoles will start at $700 though. Not the $1000. PS5 Pro $700 you know. But I mean, of course they can add in more ram, more cores CPU, more cores to GPU, put in 1 or 2TB SSD again. But yeah going past 16GB ram I mean they may cost $1000 afterall when you consider adding in more ram, more CPU cores, more GPU cores, it all adds up of course.
 
Another reason for 2030 would be Microsoft potentially dropping out of being competition.

All the rumours point towards a PC hybrid which will be expensive due to…

- Multiple stores (Microsoft lose that 30% game cut)

- OEMs making no money from software.

This means it won't be subsidised, potentially costing $1000.

That takes pressure off Sony to rush a launch, GTA VI and other big current gen exclusives may also create a second wind of PS5 sales.
 
David B said:
There's been tons of rumors all over youtube like OMG the next gen console next year 2026, they be $1,000 bucks! It's like man, if the consoles be that much I would gladly just give up gaming and go oh well, I'll just watch TV and movies and youtube than. I generally think that next gen consoles will start at $700 though.
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Indeed, Sony's business model relies on software profits and they need that 100+ million user base every generation to achieve this.

It's not in their interest to have an expensive base console that ends up being niche.
 
I just purchased my Pro .. so they will have to prove for me that I made a good acquisition before I invest again on their system... and so far they are failing miserably. They dont have new games for it and third party support its laughable.

Personally I think is ludicrous to brutforce a new gen by 2027/28 with so pathetically low output of exclusive games launched on your system, I would wait until their pipeline is again functioning and games are coming out at a regular basis from THEIR STUDIOS. So at minimum 2030.

And as others said it.. by 27/28 I dont see in what world they can sell a "generational" leap console under 1.000 dollars.
 
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I mention this before. But basically Sony wouldn't launch PS6 until people are genuinely sick of PS5. We only recently crossed over the 50% threshold for people who use a PS4 vs PS5.

We are not lacking in power, we are lacking in development time. Games for PS5 only started coming out in the last few years. No reason to rush anything. Let people get their money's worth for PS5.
 
The length of a generation has been 7 years for quite a while... but I voted for 2028. The whole Covid/unavailability/cross gen thing did have an undeniable effect. That, and as hardware specs are set in stone a few years in advance, it would guarantee we'll get Zen 5 APUs.
 
If the design was still in flux then 2028 would be ideal to make it as good as possible, but it sounds like it's pretty much done. So I'd rather they just get on with it in 2027 if that's the case.
 
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DeltaPolarBear said:
We are not lacking in power, we are lacking in development time.
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Indeed, with each generation and leaps in graphical fidelity developments costs have gone up and up.

Baked lighting is time/cost consuming for devs, but it's required because current console GPUs are incapable of ray tracing at 60fps in most games.

Once we get GPUs capable of 60fps ray/path tracing, then devs can kiss goodbye to baked lighting for good.

Another reason why I think next gen won't suffer the same diminishing returns as this gen is that we've finally reached the resolution ceiling. There is no demand for 8K.
 
2030. With lithography processes being developed so slowly and with massive price increases, we have to extend the time range if we want to see any significant improvements.
And then there is the increase in the time for developing games. With some taking more than half a decade for being made.
Tools and game engines also take a lot of time to develop now. For example, UE5 was shown in 2020, but only now it's getting proper support.
It took Epic until UE5.4 to implement proper threading support and only with 5.6, to have decent CPU performance.
 
tusharngf said:
We are getting next gen games now.
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After five long Years..
This generation sucks.

When we getting better looking games, can i wait.
Especially when the hardware of a PS6 can't bring a visible differnce to the PS5/Pro, when they release it 2026 and maybe even 2027.
The PS5 Pro is from 2024 and costs a fortune. How much better could be a PS6 releasing in 2027 with a 599 price tag?

I still voted für 2027, because 7 years with one generation is enough time.
Would be in line with the releases between the previous PS generations and their releases.
 
2030 is out of the question. 10 years is too much, PS5 will already be receiving cross gen titles by then.

1994 - 2000 - 2006 - 2013 - 2020

Almost guaranteed 2027/28
 
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Asap. They need to get ahead of Xbox which is rumored to be fall next year! And as a result, will have the best way to play gta6 for the Christmas period. Sony cannot allow this.
 
Ramiro_Rodriguez said:
The PS5 Pro is from 2024 and costs a fortune. How much better could be a PS6 releasing in 2027 with a 599 price tag?
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Worth remembering that PS5 Pro is a niche luxury product mainly for geeks, it's sold to make a profit on each unit.

Base PS5 is subsidised, it doesn't make a profit on units, it's sold cheaply to get the masses into the ecosystem.
 
It'll be 2030.

What reason does Sony have to launch the PS6 any sooner? They have demolished Microsoft, and they aren't really in competition with Nintendo. They have the high end console space to themselves right now - and that's not going to change for a long time. Strap in for a fucking long generation.
 
Calverz said:
Asap. They need to get ahead of Xbox which is rumored to be fall next year! And as a result, will have the best way to play gta6 for the Christmas period. Sony cannot allow this.
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If it's priced the same as a PC then we're looking at $1000, a bridge too far for the vast majority of console gamers.
 
I can't see Sony waiting 10 years to release the PS6. I would hope that games advance enough that a console from 2020 would struggle to play games.

I think it has to be 2028 at the latest.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
Worth remembering that PS5 Pro is a niche luxury product mainly for geeks, it's sold to make a profit on each unit.

Base PS5 is subsidised, it doesn't make a profit on units, it's sold cheaply to get the masses into the ecosystem.
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The PS4Pro was the same price as the launch ps4 ... 5 years in and the Ps5 still didnt have a substancial price drop and worse, the price has gone up in several regions.

Anyone thinking that Sony can launch a brand new generational console much better than the ps5pro in 2027 on the cheap is going for a rude awakening.
 
What's the point of delaying it, unless you're someone that don't want other people to have nicer things? Just go when the SoC is production ready, the rest of the system is just going to be off the shelf components. Unless they completely reboot the project the specs are going to be the more or less the same in 2027, 2028, 2029 etc outside of perhaps something like if it ships with 24 or 32GB RAM.

The market is going to decide how long cross-gen games are released either way, which will be well into the 2030s. If you don't want to buy it just treat it as a PS5 Pro v2.
 
I think this next gen is going to be like Xbox 360, PS3 gen. Xbox comes first. Sony comes out next year. But of course this time Sony with no PS3 powerPC processor to processor failure. I'd say over 2 or 3 years Microsoft would finally realize "Oh um, we need to stop doing the whole console thing and just focus on trying to make Windows the best we can at this point, we can't afford to keep losing money." Microsoft would lose sales in USA first. They would also lose millions of sales in Europe as well.
 
Xyphie said:
What's the point of delaying it, unless you're someone that don't want other people to have nicer things? Just go when the SoC is production ready, the rest of the system is just going to be off the shelf components. Unless they completely reboot the project the specs are going to be the more or less the same in 2027, 2028, 2029 etc outside of perhaps something like if it ships with 24 or 32GB RAM.

The market is going to decide how long cross-gen games are released either way, which will be well into the 2030s. If you don't want to buy it just treat it as a PS5 Pro v2.
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Do you think Sony wants people to treat the ps6 as a Ps5pro V2 ? Or maybe something any sony fan wants to buy asap ? .. plans change and plans adapt.. sending a brand new console at a probable high price or with lackluster specs to "see what happens" is not exactly smart business.. since its not supposed to be niche and will have to sell millions from the get go.

Nintendo just had their most successful launch ever ... in two years do you think Sony wants a different headline ?
 
Let's look at reasonably. From a tech standpoint, PS5 and especially Pro still look really great. Unlike past times, people who are not satisfied with the PS5 graphics do not have the option to move to PC easily and with relative affordability. The tech advancements to build out a materially more powerful hardware at about the same cost are also not there. From a competition standpoint, Switch 2 is the same type of thing Sony has been dealing with since Switch 1 came out. Microsoft is basically out of the game.

So there's no rush. The PS5 could easily last another 3-4 years, especially if Sony releases the handheld they are talking about.
 
Voted 2030 but could be later as far as I'm concerned. Get this live service obsession out of your system before you start a new gen.
 
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David B said:
I think overall Sony should just wait until parts are more afordable for them and thus afordable for us people to buy it. There's been tons of rumors all over youtube like OMG the next gen console next year 2026, they be $1,000 bucks! It's like man, if the consoles be that much I would gladly just give up gaming and go oh well, I'll just watch TV and movies and youtube than. I generally think that next gen consoles will start at $700 though. Not the $1000. PS5 Pro $700 you know. But I mean, of course they can add in more ram, more cores CPU, more cores to GPU, put in 1 or 2TB SSD again. But yeah going past 16GB ram I mean they may cost $1000 afterall when you consider adding in more ram, more CPU cores, more GPU cores, it all adds up of course.
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well it wouldn't be a gen leap if they stuck with 16gb ram.
 
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I believe you are going to be proven right when the time comes
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November 2027 just makes the most logical sense.

Sony launched the PS3, PS4 and PS5 (technically the PS2 as well if you go by the European launch) all in November. The gap between the consoles has been around 7 years for a while.

Yeah, November 2027 is what i would bet on.

Also, Bloodborne remake will be a launch title (in my dreams anyway!)
 
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November 2027 just makes the most logical sense.

Sony launched the PS3, PS4 and PS5 (technically the PS2 as well if you go by the European launch) all in November. The gap between the consoles has been around 7 years for a while.

Yeah, November 2027 is what i would bet on.

Also, Bloodborne remake will be a launch title (in my dreams anyway!)
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Except there was COVID, PS5 has no real wow games, Naughty Dog hasn't released a single game yet and Sony wasted billions of dollars on projects like Concord.
Furthermore, hardware is getting more expensive, TSMC keeps raising the price, the amount of power necessary for a gen leap over PS5 is not cheap at all and PS5 doesn't feel slow.
 
It's either end of 2027 or end of 2028.
Honestly not many reasons to rush it, developers are just starting to fully embrace the PS5 gen with games like Witcher 4 being developed with PS5 in mind.
Sony already has a Pro system and they're working on making PSRR better and having more developers embrace the new hardware functionalities.

It's pointless to have a PS6 too soon just to be a PC-like CPU/GPU upgrade but there are also market rules and you need to keep people excited offering something new to buy without risking that competitors grab the attention with new products and you don't have an answer.
So everything post 2028 is irrealistic.
 
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2028 at minimum, there aren't many exclusives squeezing PS5 potential, let alone, be incentives to want to get one, except for GTAVI which will act as an exclusive thanks to MS screwing it up all these years
 
asdasdasdbb said:
My answer would be when it would be possible to do a generational level improvement. Which would be 2030 or later.

But that's not happening.
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I actually came back to post this.

Thinking again, it should launch the year that Sony think it can offer a significant upgrade over the PS5 family of consoles. Whatever year that is.
 
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