When should Sony launch the PS6?
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RetroGamingUK
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Sony and Nintendo do seem to have landed on a steady and sustainable formula for success, in terms of form factor and launch timing they tend to compliment each other much more than they compete.
PlayStation and Switch is becoming what Windows vs Mac is to computers and iPhone vs Android is to mobiles.
Microsoft on the other hand seem to just throw these "hail mary" high risk moves every few years and every time it just blows up in their faces. Xbox 360 was just a blip, albeit a very well planned one.
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Ultralow35
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It's funny that you think the company that's coming out with more games Is on life support because some how selling over 30mil consoles vs 70mil is some big deficit…Sony seems to be the one on life support with no 1 party games that's not tied to games already from ps4 or remastered or collectors edition lol
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bitbydeath
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Things could change but Supermassive leaked 2027 a while back.
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You can't die before your death
2030 then.
Ultralow35
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Never at the pace there going
RetroGamingUK
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He's talking about consoles here.
Microsoft in terms of multiplatform games is doing great.
Xbox as a console is on its last legs.
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Putonahappyface
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When they've a stock pile of single player games.
DenchDeckard
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and sony is doing great in hardware this gen but the first party releases have been worse than any gen I can think of.
You are just assuming that everyone will pick up a PS6 because of the PS5 success but there may be millions of people that need to be convinced to pick up a PS6 after the no brainer of the PS5 after the PS4 gen.
Basically, I am just trying to say. There is so many unknowns now vs last gen that none of us know what will be a success. Will the PS6 only sell 60 to 70 mill lifetime next gen...who's to know.
Hopefully, they are doing a complete turn of strategy and there will be so many games next gen that they eclipse 100 milly easy.
crackajack
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Unreal5 games that don't run like all those bad Unity games should release before we move on to better hw. Devs got easy tools but need to actually master them. New HW would just skip the required learning process.
Doctor Hades
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With the extended cross gen period, it only feels like we are 2-3 years into the current gen in my experience so I think late 2028 would be fine for the PS6 release. We already have PS5 Pro as an interim upgrade anyway over the base system. I still feel like the console has at least another 3 years in it before we need new hardware.
The biggest issue with the base PS5 right now though is the poor image quality from only having AMD's mediocre FSR upscaling from sub-1080p resolutions. This is where the Pro has an advantage with PSSR and the ability to upscale from higher resolutions due to the improved GPU but the PS6 would obviously not only be more powerful but support FSR 4 and hopefully a refined version of PSSR.
The biggest issue with the base PS5 right now though is the poor image quality from only having AMD's mediocre FSR upscaling from sub-1080p resolutions. This is where the Pro has an advantage with PSSR and the ability to upscale from higher resolutions due to the improved GPU but the PS6 would obviously not only be more powerful but support FSR 4 and hopefully a refined version of PSSR.
RetroGamingUK
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PS5's second half of the generation will be better than the first, remember that most third parties also suffered due to COVID.
As for PS6 sales, of course Sony need a reason to upgrade, but it's likely PS4/PS5 players will stay on the same path…
PS4 versus Xbox One was "the worst generation to lose," Phil Spencer admits
The effects of the last-gen race are still being felt
Microsoft exec admits the console wars are over: 'We lost the worst generation to lose'
In a brutally honest 40-minute mea culpa, Xbox head Phil Spencer said the new Xbox Series X console will not be able to topple Sony and Nintendo.
Microsoft did everything right with Xbox Series X, but it was too late, and now going third party has finished them as a competitor.
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ReBurn
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People are going to pick up whatever console that lets them play the annual online shooters and sports releases with their friends. If we're being honest that's probably going to be PlayStation. A lot of us around here are clinging to belief that it's first party single player cinematic games that are bringing people to PlayStation, but I don't think that's really it anymore. People just go there now because that's where they expect their friends to be. Sony has done a good job of making those games big on PlayStation since PS4 and it's ingrained into pop culture now.
Ultralow35
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I don't think we can't separate them because consoles is all about games and not how many console sold only
RetroGamingUK
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This is actually the benefit of cross gen.
For games without cross-play you're still going to want to keep your friends list.
RetroGamingUK
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PlayStation = Sony + Microsoft + 3rd party games
Xbox = Microsoft + 3rd party games
There's a clear difference here.
Whichever one went console multiplatform first put themselves in an almost unreversable position.
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Punished Miku
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Part of me thinks 2027. 2 years is a long time in this industry.
I think Switch 2 getting stuff like Stella Blade and FFXVI is going to really make casuals question what the point of having a PS6 is in the biggest generation of diminishing returns ever. A small niche of power users are likely to really weigh the choice of PC next gen. Even with Sony in a very dominant position, I can see them wanting to be proactive to counter any perception of weakness at all, even a small one.
A lot of people have expressed dissatisfaction with Sony this gen. We'll see if any of that actually materializes in reality. I'm never good at predicting sales so I'm probably wrong. But I always thought the PS5 mostly was coasting off goodwill from PS4. If PS6 has to coast off the sentiment from PS5, then they're going to have an interesting next gen.
On the flip side, GTA is 2026 so I can see a decent amount of people starting their PS5 experience next year meaning they have zero incentive to get a PS6 until well past 2030. Really no idea which way it will go. Could be a handheld in 2027, PS6 in 2030 for all I know.
I think Switch 2 getting stuff like Stella Blade and FFXVI is going to really make casuals question what the point of having a PS6 is in the biggest generation of diminishing returns ever. A small niche of power users are likely to really weigh the choice of PC next gen. Even with Sony in a very dominant position, I can see them wanting to be proactive to counter any perception of weakness at all, even a small one.
A lot of people have expressed dissatisfaction with Sony this gen. We'll see if any of that actually materializes in reality. I'm never good at predicting sales so I'm probably wrong. But I always thought the PS5 mostly was coasting off goodwill from PS4. If PS6 has to coast off the sentiment from PS5, then they're going to have an interesting next gen.
On the flip side, GTA is 2026 so I can see a decent amount of people starting their PS5 experience next year meaning they have zero incentive to get a PS6 until well past 2030. Really no idea which way it will go. Could be a handheld in 2027, PS6 in 2030 for all I know.
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diffusionx
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For the next 5 years, the console that lets them play the annual online shooters and sports releases is going to be the PS5, so why rush the PS6? Releasing it later gives devs more time to build their environment around the system, lets them make it more powerful and cheaper, etc.
There's just no need to rush this thing out in 2027 because every 7-8 years is how it is always done. The tech and market is not what it was in the past.
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DenchDeckard
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PS5's second half of the generation will be better than the first, remember that most third parties also suffered due to COVID.
As for PS6 sales, of course Sony need a reason to upgrade, but it's likely PS4/PS5 players will stay on the same path…
PS4 versus Xbox One was "the worst generation to lose," Phil Spencer admits
The effects of the last-gen race are still being feltwww.gamesradar.com
Microsoft exec admits the console wars are over: 'We lost the worst generation to lose'
In a brutally honest 40-minute mea culpa, Xbox head Phil Spencer said the new Xbox Series X console will not be able to topple Sony and Nintendo.fortune.com
Microsoft did everything right with Xbox Series X, but it was too late, and now going third party has finished them as a competitor.
My PS5 Pro hopes you are right about the second half of the gen. We will see.
Chittagong
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I would be pleased if this was a 10 year generation
2030 for PS6. And by then it shouldn't be an ugly console that requires plastic chips for balance to lay flat.
- Beginning of the generation was wasted on cross gen ports
- Mid generation was wasted on GaaS nonsense
- PS5 Pro hasn't really been utilised at all
- We are only now starting to see what's possible technically on PS5 with GTA6 and Witcher 4
- AI will allow lesser studios to achieve more results like that
2030 for PS6. And by then it shouldn't be an ugly console that requires plastic chips for balance to lay flat.
dragonyeuw
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This is probably a weird opinion on a gaming enthusiast website, but what is next gen going to be that necessitates new hardware before 2028 at the earliest? Like, this gen only feels like it got started in terms of games hitting their stride. Give it a solid 5 years before you start telling people to buy the new thing that's likely to be mostly iterative of the current thing. You couldn't even just walk into a store and easily buy a PS5 before 2023.
Horseganador
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It will be launched as soon as the technology is ready. If it can launch a machine with a ZEN6 CPU, the latest AMD UDNA graphics card, and 24GB of RAM in a 3nm SoC in November 2027, they will. Waiting until next year is foolish because the machine would be similar.
Ultralow35
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Wait there both in the same boat
Sony games are all on pc and ps5 and 1 on Nintendo and 1 on Xbox mlb the show
Microsoft every where but not all games there is no difference you don't need either console to play these games ….This is about gaming not just trying to say well PC is not relevant because in 2025 it's all the same
MisterXDTV
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When a generational upgrade is possible at a compelling price ($600?)
2029 would be my guess year
2029 would be my guess year
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RetroGamingUK
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kaizenkko
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Late 2029.
If they release a new console in 2027 or even 2028, the same that happened with PS5 will happen with PS6: most games coming in the following years post release will be cross-gen. The Witcher 4, for example, is being made with base PS5 as lead platform, and this games will not launch before 2028 at least. Releasing PS6 in 2029 still will result in cross-gen period, but much much shorter.
If they release a new console in 2027 or even 2028, the same that happened with PS5 will happen with PS6: most games coming in the following years post release will be cross-gen. The Witcher 4, for example, is being made with base PS5 as lead platform, and this games will not launch before 2028 at least. Releasing PS6 in 2029 still will result in cross-gen period, but much much shorter.
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MisterXDTV
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Regardless, they can do whatever they want, it's not like they have any competitor in the console space....
Xbox is dead...
Xbox is dead...
Felessan
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2027/2028, voted 2027
Number of PS5 games are irrelevant as games will be crossgen initially. And it's not like Playstation defined by their 1st party exclusives anyway (and we got quite a few 2nd party already)
It takes 2-3 years from feature set completion to final silicon and it's not like things changed drastically inbetween. Delaying release just make hardware even more outdated.
Number of PS5 games are irrelevant as games will be crossgen initially. And it's not like Playstation defined by their 1st party exclusives anyway (and we got quite a few 2nd party already)
Doesn't work this way
It takes 2-3 years from feature set completion to final silicon and it's not like things changed drastically inbetween. Delaying release just make hardware even more outdated.
AI/ML and other side upgrades will define leap in generations. Brute force run it's course
SweetTooth
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I completely agree with you.
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
I think it's a point of no return, the only way to balance development costs and technological evolution is to change all the gamer culture to something more arcade-like instead of blockbusters. Otherwise, the problems and fears that plague the current model will continue over time.
SamuraiEdge
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Late 2027 please but happy with 2028 worst case.
Roman Empire
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2028 should be the prediction. Still not getting it day 1. Early adopters always feel the impact firsthand.
Zacfoldor
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It seems soon, but MS is poised to act, so 2027 it is. Team November 2027 here and I'm surprised by my own confidence. I think PS6 is further along than we expect. I think they are itching to roll out PSSR 2 or whatever and their new handheld and they will do that all around the same time, November 2027, months after the next Xbox. Exactly 7 years since PS5 launched.
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Topher
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Sure......I'm just ready for first party to get back on track
Matt_Fox
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Also willing to bet we get two Sku's at launch.
PS6 regular, and a premium model with disc drive + more TB storage.
PS6 regular will still be priced higher than we're used to, but customers will feel placated by saying "at least I didn't pay $$$ for the pricier model". Psychology of selling.
PS6 regular, and a premium model with disc drive + more TB storage.
PS6 regular will still be priced higher than we're used to, but customers will feel placated by saying "at least I didn't pay $$$ for the pricier model". Psychology of selling.
Zacfoldor
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I've always bought launch editions and never had an issue.
I have a launch Switch that still runs fine. I have a launch PS5 and PS5 Pro and XSX and none of them had had the least issue(knock on wood). I had a launch PS4 and it was fine. My PS4 Pro was post launch.
The only console issues I've ever experienced have been with non-launch Xbox and rrod. Where are these poor early adopters? In fact, I think the PS5 got a downgraded heatsink when they made it lighter and my launch PS5 is probably the best kind there is. I haven't just gotten lucky, this is the usual experience.
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Matt_Fox
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Kupfer
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As late as possible, please not before 2028, better 2030'ish
The PS5 (not the Pro) hasn't even come close to being pushed to its limits the way the PS2, PS3, or PS4 were after five years into their respective generations.
A new console would just give developers yet another excuse to brute-force performance instead of optimizing smartly to get the most out of the hardware.
It would also send a strong signal for the next generation - that the hardware will be supported for a long time.
This would allow developers to plan and calculate more effectively, especially with these increasingly long development cycles.
The PS5 (not the Pro) hasn't even come close to being pushed to its limits the way the PS2, PS3, or PS4 were after five years into their respective generations.
A new console would just give developers yet another excuse to brute-force performance instead of optimizing smartly to get the most out of the hardware.
It would also send a strong signal for the next generation - that the hardware will be supported for a long time.
This would allow developers to plan and calculate more effectively, especially with these increasingly long development cycles.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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2028. November 2028
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They should probably release more first party SW for the PS5, then they need to have a built in Pipeline to improve the release schedule for the PS6.
Nintendo, whether you want to play what they have or not, have a game every month for the Switch 2.
Nintendo, whether you want to play what they have or not, have a game every month for the Switch 2.
- Donkey Kong Bananza – releases July 17, 2025
- Super Mario Party Jamboree + Jamboree TV– releases July 24, 2025
- Kirby and the Forgotten Land + Star-Crossed World – releases August 28, 2025
- Drag X Drive– releases summer 2025
- Switch 2 Exclusive
- Metroid Prime 4: Beyond– sometime in 2025
- Switch 2 Edition
- Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment – releases winter 2025
- Switch 2 Exclusive
- Kirby Air Riders– sometime in 2025
- Switch 2 Exclusive
- The Duskbloods – sometime in 2026
- Switch 2 Exclusive
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