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[jello44]

People get SUPER invested in sports that way. You can see it in the sports threads and the way people carry themselves. Emotional as all hell.

It gets more emotional when you're a part of a team, be it little leagues/high school etc.

Been on a team that lost and won a championship. Losing that last game hurt, especially when you're young.

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I love how her face goes from sadness to smiles when she notices the camera is on her. It's so cute lol.

 

[KHarvey16]

Anyone that cares about this sucks.

 

[RunTheBrules]

I'm from Michigan where a lot of people root for the University of Michigan football (and basketball to a lesser extent) team, despite the fact they never went there. That's fine and all, but what bothers me is when these fans act like they're better than me for rooting for my alma mater - a bottom tier program in the college football landscape - and bring up 'their' school's superior education.

 

[Apath]

I love how her face goes from sadness to smiles when she notices the camera is on her. It's so cute lol.

Here you go.

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

People become incredibly emotionally invested in the teams they follow:

 

[Skiptastic]

Why is this even an issue? Let people get excited about their favorite team. It is doing you ZERO harm.

Seinfeld Society. Little things bother people way too much these days.

Sorry that it bothers you but you're going to be dealing with it your whole life, so stiff upper lip and all.

 

[Erico]

Actually, the tedious people who complain about sports fans saying "we" are the worst.
Get over yourselves.

 

[zeshakag]

66 years after the Wright Brothers flight we went to the moon-

Not so fast everyone not on the apollo missions

 

[inm8num2]

I try to avoid using 'we' but sometimes it's hard to not do so when talking to other fans of the same team/school. It's kind of like speaking in 3rd person a la Jimmy on Seinfeld.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Being a member in Borussia Dortmund means you actively support the club with your money. You don't just pay a ticket for a show. Of course you get benefits for that, but it's a certification that you are "we, Borussia". (I don't really know if Borussia has a club membership though - I don't care about "them")

But it's not exclusive to being a member, it's most of the time the fact "we" as a neighbourhood, a town, a region and the team as the representative of that neighbourhood, town, region.

Again, it's about modern tribes. Even the ultras behaviour is associated with tribal behaviour in some documentaries.

But "actively support the club with your money" is a difference without distinction, I'm not spending $300 on a Red Wings jersey because I need a shirt that bad. So what are the benefits of that membership? Could I work out in Borussia Dortmund's weight room if I lived nearby?

BTW - I think a lot of US franchises have memberships already but they're more for kids than adults.

 

[Sheriff_Battlesnake]

Why on earth do you let little things bother you?

 

[GiantEnemyGoomba]

Getting annoyed with this is ridiculously pedantic.

 

[timetokill]

 

[TheKaeptain]

I'm on the team, so it makes perfect sense.

Serving peanuts at the link doesn't mean you're on the team.

 

[Currygan]

 

[HarryDemeanor]

This has to be reversed right?

 

[Cilla]

I laughed at it all of the time. My husband used to do it as he lived in Machester and football culture is immense. Not anymore though.

"We played well"

"Mate you sat on the couch"

 

[Spider from Mars]

I just love when I'm talking about any video game I was playing the day before and someone says nerd, then turns around and starts talking about someone's stats from the 90's.

this never happened.

 

[SaviorX]

No fans no teams.

Exactly. Without fan viewership and support, the sport would be nothing but a cheap club activity.

 

[Kevtones]

We can get pretty pedantic here at NeoGAF.

 

[zeshakag]

this never happened.

You know what does happen? Any time I talk about fantasy football with one of my friends, like a rooster at dawn one of my non-sports friends pipe up and starts mindlessly hollering "FF is just dnd for JOCKS!"

Bitch I play DND too. When have I ever made fun of your nerddom.

 

[DoktorEvil]

this never happened.

It happened in his mind.

 

[KingSnake]

But "actively support the club with your money" is a difference without distinction, I'm not spending $300 on a Red Wings jersey because I need a shirt that bad. So what are the benefits of that membership? Could I work out in Borussia Dortmund's weight room if I lived nearby?

BTW - I think a lot of US franchises have memberships already but they're more for kids than adults.

Depends on the level of your membership. I think the lowest is having early access to ticket sales. The t-shirt you buy separately. Not that expensive, though. The point is not that some are more worthy than others to use the "we", but the fact that European clubs at least are actively supporting this inclusion. Most of the campaigns are like "be part of FavouriteClub".

 

[timetokill]

This has to be reversed right?

Nope!

 

[ChubbyHuggs]

this never happened.

It happened in a break room at 1:30 am. Then they continued to talk about how, "We should have traded him" while I went on to talk about The Witcher 3.

 

[injurai]

Yeah, this is just a thinly veiled disparaging remark about watching sports.

Have you ever actually seen other people watch sports? When the team succeeds, the fans cheer. When the team fails, the fans cry. When something doesn't go the team's way, the fans scream. People become incredibly emotionally invested in the teams they follow.

Well it's not because I say "we won."

When you say we won you acknowledge an active participation in the overall establishment of the sport. Sports need fans.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Nope!

She got the murder face on.

I'd run.

 

[timetokill]

She got the murder face on.

I'd run.

Hahaha no doubt

 

[PassiveObserver]

I like video games and all but it doesn't compare to the rush of watching your team make a play to win a big game. It's odd since I had no hand in the win, but it is superior to winning a match in a video game.

Sports. You either get it or you don't.

 

[old manatee]

It is sad, unless you are associating yourself with Tom Brady and His Patriots, in which case it is a sign of virtue.

 

[clearacell]

Atmosphere factors into the play on the field, so there certainly is a "we" when you're watching the team at the stadium. Morale is a real thing.

 

[Baka Sempai]

I went to a concert, bought a shirt and an LP, and called myself part of the band.

Nothing's weird with me, no sir.

So are you telling me that If I buy myself a local PD shirt and put a sticker on my car claiming support to the local PD, I'm automatically a Cop ??

You may be onto something there...

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Depends on the level of your membership. I think the lowest is having early access to ticket sales. The t-shirt you buy separately. Not that expensive, though. The point is not that some are more worthy than others to use the "we", but the fact that European clubs at least are actively supporting this inclusion. Most of the campaigns are like "be part of FavouriteClub".

The reason I'm asking is because those benefits don't really seem to be that big of a deal, you get that sort of thing with season tickets. (Not sure if that link is going to work, but it's a chart of what you get with various Detroit Red Wings ticket packages.) It kind of strikes me a more marketing gimmick than a true club.

 

[Apath]

Well it's not because I say "we won."

When you say we won you acknowledge an active participation in the overall establishment of the sport. Sports need fans.

Sorry if I misread your post then.

Everything needs fans to exist, but sports are almost exclusive in having its fans feel a part of the team.

 

[injurai]

Sorry if I misread your post then.

Everything needs fans to exist, but sports are almost exclusive in having its fans feel a part of the team.

NBD. Just saying "they won" just is so unexciting even if technically correct. We won is the right way to go. For sure.

 

[Business]

I blame the Wii.

 

[Frog-fu]

What's the issue?

Sports fans - actual fans - are integral to clubs. They're members of communities of friends and families that invest heavily in their teams, often their entire lives, and thus form a strong personal connection with their teams that referring to the actions of that team outside of an "us" or "we" feels impersonal.

I question the genuinity anyone that claims to be a diehard fan of any sports team but doesn't refer to himself as a part of it.

Have you ever actually seen other people watch sports? When the team succeeds, the fans cheer. When the team fails, the fans cry. When something doesn't go the team's way, the fans scream. People become incredibly emotionally invested in the teams they follow:

It often starts at a young age.

 

[Ushojax]

This is one of the strangest threads I've ever read.

I don't think there is a single person in the UK who would refer to their football club as 'them' and not 'us'.

 

[KingSnake]

The reason I'm asking is because those benefits don't really seem to be that big of a deal, you get that sort of thing with season tickets. (Not sure if that link is going to work, but it's a chart of what you get with various Detroit Red Wings ticket packages.) It kind of strikes me a more marketing gimmick than a true club.

It is a marketing gimmick. But it is built up on the tribal nature of these sports. Support your tribe. Only 11 (or 5 in basketball) can play at one time, but everybody can be a part. Not necessarily money. Watch a basketball game between Olympiacos and Panathinaikos in Greece by comparison to NBA. Everybody in that arena is convinced that his shouts and screams will help the team win. It's everybody's win.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

If you go to a college, their sports team is your sports team. If you live in a city, that city's sports team is your sports team (well that's arguable, it kinda depends how long you've been there). Saying "we" when referring to your team makes nothing but sense.

 

[Ledsen]

I really hate this, so annoying.

 

[Anth0ny]

god who cares

"we" obviously refers to the home team

do I really need to say "the raptors" every time

 

[TemplaerDude]

Why do you let something like this bother you so much?

 

[Captainbojanglesiii]

I've never understood why so many people have a problem with this. When the team wins, the fanbase does as well. No one is saying they're on the winning team, but that they and their fellow fans have bragging rights.

People who point out every time someone says "we" are simply buzzkills who ruin the moment nine times out of ten.

 

[Daingurse]

Isn't that just a sports fandom thing in-general?

 

[bone_and_sinew]

NFL fans can legitimately say we. Loud crowds are able to change the outcome of a game. False starts, delay of game penalties, forcing timeouts, forcing the qb and coach to use signals instead of electronic communication are all things a loud crowd can do.

In soccer, fans can own shares of the team and are able to vote for their team president and other front office positions.

Such a dumb complaint.

 

[braves01]

I usually hear soccer fans talk like this.

"We played a great match. That 0-0 tie is huge for us"

"We got new kits this year. Kit means uniform, FYI."

"Have you seen my scarf? We really need great fan support to get a draw, and I'm not doing my part without a scarf."

 

[Lexxism]

That's normal. Fans considered themselves as part of the team. Even the team itself say it too. There won't be a team without their fans.

 

[rambis]

Idk but personally people who pour their hard earned money into funding most of what these teams do deserve to be able to express some attachment.

Is it really that big a deal OP?

 

[AbsolutBro]

Real answer = saying we is just faster and the other person you're talking about 95% of the time will know what you mean

The other 5% is pedantic ding dogs being pedantic ding dongs.


I mean, is it any different than saying "we" when talking about, for instance, your country's policies? Unless you're in the legislating body, you have shit all to do with laws or their outcomes, so should you not say "we" when talking about your country?