which game has the most living breathing world ?
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abstract alien
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Maybe Skyrim? Majora's Mask was great at this, but it was different from a design aspect.
The Lunch Legend
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Xenoblade Chronicles X.
LectureMaster
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RDR 2 is definitely the king in terms of open world details and NPC being part of the dynamic world. I think only GTA 6 can dethrone it.
But the recent KCD2 also has insanely detailed and interactive world.
But the recent KCD2 also has insanely detailed and interactive world.
Kenneth Haight
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RDR2 hands down for me personally
Bungie
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I'd say in terms on NPCs I'd give it to Bethesda/Elder Scrolls/Fallout. Rest goes to R* on Red Dead Redemption 2. Problem with R* is the NPCs aren't as interactive & don't really have a life like schedule in my opinion. While they do have a schedule, it doesnt sell me since they just stand around at night. The fact that most NPCs have a bed & usually a home in Skyrim, just makes them feel ahead of R* in terms of NPCs. Even Starfield was impressive in some areas.
If I remember correctly, there was even certain days some NPCs went to church in Fallout 3. Definitely worth watching videos on the details of Rivet City in Fallout 3.
If I remember correctly, there was even certain days some NPCs went to church in Fallout 3. Definitely worth watching videos on the details of Rivet City in Fallout 3.
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bitbydeath
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Days Gone easy, every trip out is different due to the dynamic AI.
“The World Comes For You” wasn’t just a catchy phrase.
“The World Comes For You” wasn’t just a catchy phrase.
SweetTooth
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not a bad trait.
A2una1
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I would say the original outcast. You could even go to random npc and ask where is person xyz and they give you a vague direction if they knew. Sure skyrim had more npcs and a larger map, but the simulation of the World was broken with weird shenanigens to often. In rdr2 I sadly didn't pay to much attention, maybe I was feeling open World fatigue with this one
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vaibhavpisal
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RDR2 is good one. It does however take away a lot of that during missions.
Outside of that, Skyrim and KCD 2 are pretty interactive and stay the same throughout. Interactivity is pretty much gameplay mechanics in them.
I also find Monster Hunter titles to be very impressive and full of little details in this regard.
Outside of that, Skyrim and KCD 2 are pretty interactive and stay the same throughout. Interactivity is pretty much gameplay mechanics in them.
I also find Monster Hunter titles to be very impressive and full of little details in this regard.
Vaquilla
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Breath of the Wild for me.
The way the world was so reactive and dynamic was just awesome; grass blows, bends, and burns, trees can be cut down and the log will then roll down slopes or float in water, metal and water conduct electricity, rain puts out fire, wind can influence the spread of a wildfire which itself creates an updraft, even carrying an elemental weapon can cool or warm you, allowing you to survive in the desert by carrying an ice sword, or in the snow by carrying a fire sword...
It's basically what I dreamed games of the future would be like back when I was kid playing SNES in the 90s.
The way the world was so reactive and dynamic was just awesome; grass blows, bends, and burns, trees can be cut down and the log will then roll down slopes or float in water, metal and water conduct electricity, rain puts out fire, wind can influence the spread of a wildfire which itself creates an updraft, even carrying an elemental weapon can cool or warm you, allowing you to survive in the desert by carrying an ice sword, or in the snow by carrying a fire sword...
It's basically what I dreamed games of the future would be like back when I was kid playing SNES in the 90s.
Black_Stride
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Easily Dwarf Fortress.
A full 3D version of Dwarf Fortress would probably be game of the forever.
A full 3D version of Dwarf Fortress would probably be game of the forever.
HRK69
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Red Dead Redemption 2. Hands down, no contest.
I've never understood the complaints about the mission structure and activities. The game is designed to deliver a cinematic, immersive experience during missions. What do you expect? To ride back to town in the middle of a highstakes moment just to play poker? Come on.
And don’t even get me started on the controls. You just suck. GIT GUD.
Oh, and even Grand Theft Auto V offers a more immersive, living world than most modern games
I've never understood the complaints about the mission structure and activities. The game is designed to deliver a cinematic, immersive experience during missions. What do you expect? To ride back to town in the middle of a highstakes moment just to play poker? Come on.
And don’t even get me started on the controls. You just suck. GIT GUD.
Oh, and even Grand Theft Auto V offers a more immersive, living world than most modern games
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ValiantInstance
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Red Dead Redemption 2. If you observe an NPC in a town for a day you can see they have a whole routine.
The wildlife is remarkable too, animals hunt each other.
The wildlife is remarkable too, animals hunt each other.
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existensmaximum
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RDR 2 has way too little interaction going on between you and the random NPCs. Skyrim is the king for me.
Gorgon
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Deadly Premonition? I didn't play it but heard lot's of good things about NPC life simulation in that game. Also quite unique, given that it's basically a police procedural set in a cozy town. I'd like to see a modern game trying something similar. Unfortunately that's not what Alan Wake 2 turned out to be.
Pedro Motta
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Trying to be a little bit outside the box here, I would say the Division 1. The visual storytelling of snowy New York is amazing.
GigaBowser
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totk annnd nort even close
Rockondevil
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Gotta be Skyrim or RDR2 right?
thief183
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Come on guys, KCD2 at the moment is the best one around cause not only it looks real and alive but it react accordingly, try for example to poison a random food source and make the time pass hour after hour, you' ll see ppl in the sorroubd commenting about it, someone guarding the corpse, all waiting for the gravedigger to come come and take the body.
Another example is that if you leave something on the ground ppl will take it and use it, or sell it.
RDR2 is a great example but the interaction is minimal in comparison.
Otherwise you got stuff like Rainworld where Devs simulated an entire ecosistem, but it is smaller in scale.
Edit: ofc also skyrim is a great example, but still the interaction is kinda limited.
Another example is that if you leave something on the ground ppl will take it and use it, or sell it.
RDR2 is a great example but the interaction is minimal in comparison.
Otherwise you got stuff like Rainworld where Devs simulated an entire ecosistem, but it is smaller in scale.
Edit: ofc also skyrim is a great example, but still the interaction is kinda limited.
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StereoVsn
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Yep, KCD2 world realization is just crazy. Like say if you steal something out of a house at night and are sneaking away in dark clothing without a torch. Guards will stop you if they notice you and search you for stolen items.
There is so much interactivity between various systems it’s kind of crazy.
Trilobit
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I always felt like Harvest Moon on GBA succeeded with making its town feel lively. Of course, I never played it to the end, but there was always so much going on with your animals and the townsfolk and then you could start your own family and there were plenty of festivals and different seasons. Now I know that isn't exactly what this thread is about, but I think it deserves an honorary shoutout.
gtabro
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Ironman_Bad
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This is the only answer and honestly gta is best living world, rdr just looks insane and has crazy stuff you can do
DownLikeBCPowder
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This game looks kind of wild.. never heard of it, but looking into it now.
GymWolf
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Just so you know, the game is hard as nails
NewYork
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I played only S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl from this series, and it's definitely not good in creating a living breating world. The world feels very empty, with some faction groups here and there. Even in faction villages or bases, there is not much going on. The NPCs don't interact. They have no routine. They just randomly roam around, blurting their phrases (usually one repeating phrase per NPC, which is annoying).
diffusionx
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These days it's games like Rimworld, Dwarf Fortress, and Caves of Qud. Nothing from major publishers comes even close.
Magic Carpet
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Avatar Frontiers of Pandora I'm surrounded on all sides by living breathing stuff.
diffusionx
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It was basically a parlor trick. They all had unique names yes but they were just regular NPCs otherwise. You could recruit them but they were bucketed into several slots.
Legion is a cool game with some unique elements but it wasn't some revolutionary dynamic game.