kunonabi
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It's not so dependent on items and actual racing skill matters. It also has the best battle mode in the entire series.
Which Nintendo 64 game had the BEST graphics on the system?
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Shadowstar39
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Wait is this a port of megaman legends? I didn't even know this was on the n64. Although I'm sure the control scheme is crap.The only game where I feel the devs accomplished what they set out to do, both graphically and artistically, was Mega Man 64:
The legend series is my favorite and it bothers me everyday that Capcom doesn't port them to the switch.
This right here shows they aren't stuck do to some contract with Sony.
As for best graphics. Wave race is great and Forsaken. I just played that the other night for 1st time and it's the closet game outside of overload on PC that comes close to the Descent games. They need ported too.
nkarafo
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Not in single player though. No matter how good you are, no matter how far behind you left the CPU after you hit them, the CPU will always speed boost in order to hover around you and try to steal 1st place. It's actually a matter of luck if they don't steal it so you need to have a last minute item to make sure they don't.
There is no other Mario Kart game that does this. Sure, in later entries the CPU will throw a blue shell at you 100% of the time but you can still win only with your skill. You can either stay at close second place to avoid it or let it hit you and reclaim your position. And if you are good enough, you should have enough distance to tank the shell without losing first place. Because if your driving skills are high enough you can even leave the CPU a long distance behind, since the rubber banding isn't as strong (but it's still there). You can basically win without ever using any items most of the time, by just your skills alone.
You can't do that in Mario Kart 64, which makes it the least dependent on driving skills actually. Because skill can't help you beat the cheating CPU without items.
Yes, they did this so high skilled players aren't bored when playing the single player mode. Some people may prefer this but it doesn't change the fact that a high skilled player will never be able to hold distance from the CPU.
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kunonabi
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Who the hell cares about single player? And even then it's not functionally different than most other racing games where it's basically you vs the one or two cpu racers the game decides are going to be competitive. As long as you race as clean as you can you're still mostly likely going to win anyway. It's just how the genre worked for like decades.
nkarafo
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I do.
And Mario Kart 64 has the worst rubber banding i have seen in any game, which means skills don't matter, the CPU will be on you no matter what.
It's very different because in other games if you are good enough, the second place CPU will be so far behind you won't care about one blue shell hitting you. In Mario Kart 64 it's impossible to keep a distance from the second place CPU, even if you are the world champion of Mario Kart 64. Unless you use glitched shortcuts that is. And even then you can see the CPU on the map desperately speed boosting to cover the distance.
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Parazels
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I remember being extremely impressed with World Driver Championship...especially the Replay mode. It seriously rivaled Gran Turismo afair
Isn't that emulated footage?
nkarafo
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Yes.
Here's a more accurate emulation footage of the whole game, that's the same as real hardware but without a CRT filter (which is normally needed)
Parazels
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Drell
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Well I know your MK64 debate went far more technical than this. But personally, even if I played it a lot as a kid, I tend to think this is the worst MK of the series. Starting from MK8, we got 3D models looking nearly as detailed as pre-renders at flaweless 60 fps. On the other hand, MK64 is the only one of the polygonal 3D episodes to feature ugly sprites for nearly everything that isn't the level geometry and despite this, the games still can't reach 30 fps the whole time... I know they were figuring out stuff with 3D and the N64 back then, but nostalgia doesn't work on this one as well as Mario 64 or Oot for me on this one. I'd take any other 3D episode, even the ugly DS graphics.
Edit: I largely prefer F-Zero X with its minimal geometry and minimal draw distance but full 3D with up to 30 racers at once and 60 FPS the whole time.
Edit: I largely prefer F-Zero X with its minimal geometry and minimal draw distance but full 3D with up to 30 racers at once and 60 FPS the whole time.
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Major Insano
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It's too far back for me to really compare games in my mind, but Jet Force Gemini and Rogue Squadron are good shouts.
Also I remember being awed by that metalic black, level entrance pool in M64, and the fairy caves in OOT.
Also I remember being awed by that metalic black, level entrance pool in M64, and the fairy caves in OOT.
Gambit2483
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Yep. Game still looks great for an N64 game
peronmls
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I always thought this and Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 were very similar for their generation.The only game where I feel the devs accomplished what they set out to do, both graphically and artistically, was Mega Man 64:
kunonabi
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When I made my top 50 games list a surprising number of titles ended up being N64 games. Despite everything it really did manage to put out a lot of great games.
BlackTron
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If I had to pick one retro console it would be 64. I hardly ever bother turning on the SNES or Genesis even though I play their games more often. For N64 I gave up and just use a real one.
simpatico
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For me it's all about real hardware and real carts if I can get them and if the price is reasonable. I will pay up to $60 for legit carts, maybe a little more for a title I really love, but I don't mind using rep carts one bit in the cases where it's just a ridiculous price.
For some reason I could never get invested with a save file on emulators. I've set them up countless times but never finished a game on one. Been building a retro corner in my home office since I moved into a new house.
So far I've got:
19" CRT TV
Sega Genesis
Super Nintendo
PlayStation 2 Slim
I started with the 16 bit ones, so my library on those is a lot more complete. Got all the first party, Castlevania, Mega Man and Final Fantasy. A lot of shmups too. One of my primary genres. The rep carts come in very handy there.
I play this setup way more than I could ever force myself to plan an emulation. I just got the PS2 a month or two ago, so maybe by spring or summer I'll be looking to add an N64. The GameCube and Dreamcast are inevitable too.
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Midway-AGNC-
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Care to say which ones called your attention after reading here?
BlackTron
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I get your point about getting invested in the save file. If I have to launch the emulator on PC, choose the ROM, make sure the controller is fine, and make it full screen. I'll never launch it enough times to finish a long game. The trick (drumroll) is to run emulators on a game console like a Switch. Some titles I put an icon on the home screen with the box art (forwarder) so I forget it's even a thing, just press A and play.
The original headache that pushed me to emulate was my save going poof halfway through RPGs, twice. And instead of worrying about batteries, decided to start it over on Wii virtual console. Of course, many old games don't even have saves, but I prefer a sleep button to worrying that a light breeze will freeze the console (this still happens to me lol) so I'll only turn on my Genesis if I'm in the mood to see a perfect dithering effect, otherwise I just want the path of least resistance to a few Sonic levels.
Put it this way, it would suck to lose the Dreamcast but I'd retain access to my favorite games on it. But if I lost the 64 it would effectively break my ability to play it. I have considered getting a USB adapter for the controller, or just the official Nintendo wireless one, but then it's also a multiplayer console, you need a mess of controllers, not all our fav mp games are on NSO and some develop issues in split screen when you do it yourself. So yeah, I don't want to lose any, but if I had to choose one to keep, 64 hands down.
Famipan
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Holy Magic Century AKA Quest 64 had the perfect aestethic although it was a highly unfinished kind of game concept. Real shame N64 didn't get more JRPGs with that look.
I remember getting the RAM upgrade along with Majoras Mask, Perfect Dark, Turok 2 and DK64 (horrible game for a fan of DKC-series). I was so disappointed by the "upgrade". I got nauseous of the bad framerate. Never played Banjo unfortunately
Then sold those and got Wave Race which along with OoT, Mario 64 and Goldeneye single player are some of the best looking games because framerate felt better. Wave Race should probably be in top 3 best looking games.
1080 was also a looker although it lacked in gameplay and had slowdowns.
I heard Snowboard Kids and perhaps its sequel was more fun
I remember getting the RAM upgrade along with Majoras Mask, Perfect Dark, Turok 2 and DK64 (horrible game for a fan of DKC-series). I was so disappointed by the "upgrade". I got nauseous of the bad framerate. Never played Banjo unfortunately
Then sold those and got Wave Race which along with OoT, Mario 64 and Goldeneye single player are some of the best looking games because framerate felt better. Wave Race should probably be in top 3 best looking games.
1080 was also a looker although it lacked in gameplay and had slowdowns.
I heard Snowboard Kids and perhaps its sequel was more fun
Gambit2483
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The trials of being an emulator...I remember those days...