Which was the better RPG? Grandia 2 or Suikoden 3?

I personally think Suikoden 3, but I'm a Suiko fanboy.

Gandia II was still good though, although not as good as the first one.
 
Couldn't get into Grandia II, personally. And I loved Suikoden III to death.
 
I haven't played any of the Suikoden series but I can give my opinion on Grandia 2, it was pretty generic, it didn't have the same 'adventurous' feel of the first one.
 
While I couldn't get into Grandia 2's story, the battle system is one of the funnest I've ever played with.

It was so fun I went out looking for battles, as opposed to shrieking in horror at the onset of yet another random encounter (that's right Square, I'm looking at you).
 
last few levels in Grandia II suck ass. The story was also terrible.

I only played Suikoden III for a few hours but it seemed better than Grandia II.
 
Never played the other, but Grandia II is pretty good. It's very linear, which I like, because I hate wandering around pointlessly doing sidequests and such. The battle system is fun, but the game is too easy to truly take advantage of it. Had some good music.
 
Neither was particularly memorable.

Grandia 2:
The Good: Strong battle system, a few memorable dungeons.
The Bad: Easy fights all around; short; fractured plot; terrible skill balance; annoying characters.

Suikoden 3:
The Good: Plot was above-average for anime drek; team composition was fun; Lulu dies.
The Bad: terrible dungeon and overworld designs; repetitive as all hell; awful battle system; character advancement system was dumb; visually HIDEOS.
 
Drinky Crow said:
Neither was particularly memorable.

Grandia 2:
The Good: Strong battle system, a few memorable dungeons.
The Bad: Easy fights all around; short; fractured plot; terrible skill balance; annoying characters.

Suikoden 3:
The Good: Plot was above-average for anime drek; team composition was fun; Lulu dies.
The Bad: terrible dungeon and overworld designs; repetitive as all hell; awful battle system; character advancement system was dumb; visually HIDEOS.
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Graphically

Suikoden III > Grandia II
 
Grandia 2: 60 fps, high color saturation, good texturing with lots of variety.
Suikoden 3: 15-60 fps, grey/brown overload, muddy repetitive textures. Dullsville meets polygonz.

Both have wibbling anime weeble folk with dubious poly counts, and both feature shitty staccato animation. Suikoden 3's spells look a bit better, but the fighting animation is far, far worse. I'll take G2 over S3 on the visual front ANY day, sloppy FMV spells and all.

WHO'S UP TO FIGHT SOME FUZZIES OR RABBITS TODAY GANG WHOA WHAT'S THAT IT'S A CRAB AND THIS TIME IT'S BLUE INSTEAD OF GREEN
 
basically, I bought Grandia 2 for 15$ at EB a few months back and it's been sitting on my self ever since. Now this guy wants to give me Suikoden 3 for it so I want to know if I should bother with either, if any.

Man I don't like anime dreks. Main reason I don't ever feel like playing ZOE2.
 
I liked the graphics in Suikoden 3 more...picking on individual parts makes Suikoden 3 look rather bland, sure, but the overall atmosphere was great IMO. The overworld was nicely put together. Shifting framerate was definitely noticable but never really a big issue.

In Grandia 2 the camera view was too heavily tilted, so you never actually got a good look at the environments. Graphics were polished but a bit on the simple side.

When talking about the actual games though, I had more fun with Grandia 2. Battle system was a lot more fun. Suikoden 3 felt too slow...it seemed to have potential, but it never actually got anywhere as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I had my hopes set too high, since Suikoden 2 is one of my favorite RPGs. Grandia 2 was more straightforward and happy. With great music too, something Suikoden 3 lacked.
 
suikoden III has, by far, the better plot. but i think grandia II's is marginally underrated. it's like the weird bastard child of final fantasy VIII and lunar II. worse than the former, better than the latter. it's worth noting that suikoden III's plot feels more like a fantasy novel than "anime drek" to me. take that how you wish.

it's amazing that you actually managed to pick a game that grandia II exceeds in dungeon quality. grandia II's dungeons are shitty fucking boring mazes. but suikoden III is probably just about the only game that manages to have less interesting dungeons than grandia II. they're embarassingly poor. and frequently reused.

i prefer suikoden III's look because at least the (yucky half-SD, admittedly) characters are based on really, really good character designs (fumi ishikawa 4 life.) neither the models nor the original art which they're based on for G2 is anything special, so the nod goes to SIII. although i thought the models cute at the time (DC).

as for the environments, i like SIII's use of color design (palatte) but the framerate is ass. the towns are nice, everything else is shit, and you'll get sick of all of it by the time the game ends, because they reuse it unmercifully. G2 has a lot more variety. it looked amazing in late 2000, but i don't know how it looks now. haven't touched it since then.

anyway, unless you're determined to spend $20 on an RPG now, there are better choices than both on the PS2. especially better than grandia II on the PS2 -- it's a shit port.
 
grandia 2 was a big let down in my eyes. havent played any suikoden, just thought i'd chime in to hate on grandia 2 ;)
 
^Yeah, STAY AWAY from Grandia II on PS2!!!! The game was prorted by some n00b Korean team and has all kinds of problems! The frame rate fluctuates between low 30 FPS - 10 FPS most of the time.

I liked grandia 2 in the beginning but it quickly becomes highly repetitive.


1.) Something terrible happens in a village/town
2.) Travel to dungeon, defeat a part of Valmar
3.) Villagers thank you
4.) Back to step 1

This is basically Grandia II right there.


I didn't like Suikoden III either, fucking boring as hell and I hate random battles. Dark Cloud 2, Final Fantasy X and BOF DQ are better RPGs on PS2.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
^Yeah, STAY AWAY from Grandia II on PS2!!!! The game was prorted by some n00b Korean team and has all kinds of problems! The frame rate fluctuates between low 30 FPS - 10 FPS most of the time.

I liked grandia 2 in the beginning but it quickly becomes highly repetitive.


1.) Something terrible happens in a village/town
2.) Travel to dungeon, defeat a part of Valmar
3.) Villagers thank you
4.) Back to step 1

This is basically Grandia II right there.


I didn't like Suikoden III either, fucking boring as hell and I hate random battles. Dark Cloud 2 and BOF DQ are better RPGs on PS2.
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Dark Cloud 2 was great, my favorite PS2 RPG however I could not get into BOFDQ, wtf was up with that battle system? And the dialogue was weird...
 
Chiming in on the graphics and frame rate, Suikoden III's final boss is one of the few times I got nauseous playing a game.

If Suikoden III is repetitive, Dark Cloud 2 is fucking pong.
 
Date of Lies said:
Dark Cloud 2 was great, my favorite PS2 RPG however I not get into BOFDQ, wtf was up with that battle system? Weird as hell. And the dialogue was weird...
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Yeah man I am playing Dark Cloud 2 right now and loving it! I love the stoy and the game is juct packed with content. However, it requires a lots of time :( I just finished Chapter 4 on the weekend. It took me a year to get there though, got stuck in Chapter 3. :lol

Level 5 is awesome can't wait for their next games.

"I not get into BOFDQ, wtf was up with that battle system? Weird as hell. And the dialogue was weird..."

yeah the first dungeon in that game is very difficult. I played that game with cheats and enjoyed it.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Yeah man I am playing Dark Cloud 2 right now and loving it! I love the stoy and the game is juct packed with content. However, it requires a lots of time :( I just finished Chapter 4 on the weekend. It took me a year to get there though, got stuck in Chapter 3. :lol

Level 5 is awesome can't wait for their next games.

"I not get into BOFDQ, wtf was up with that battle system? Weird as hell. And the dialogue was weird..."

yeah the first dungeon in that game is very difficult. I played that game with cheats and enjoyed it.
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The dungeons in Dark Cloud 2 were hard-on enducing, right up to the last one. The town building system was the cream on the cake. About the story:
it starts sucking major towards the end.
(just my opinion, no real spoilers.)
 
In my book, Suikoden III. But I reckon you'd still have to give Grandia 2 a shot anyhow since it's a fine game as it is. The battle system takes a giant dump on Suikoden III's.
 
I much preferred Grandia 2, even though the story was a bit crazy (I don't understand the voice acting complaint, though, as I thought it was great).
 
Doom_Bringer said:
last few levels in Grandia II suck ass.
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Amen. The end of Suikoden III (and what comes after) don't provide the same sort of anticlimax. I can see how some people wouldn't like the game, but I found it great fun.
 
I played through Grandia II on Dreamcast, I liked the battles most of all. Everything else was average.

I couldn't stand playing Suikoden III for very long, but I never got into the first 2 Suikoden's either.

I choose Grandia II.
 
Shouta said:
I disliked Grandia II but it's infinitely better than Suikoden III.
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heh, for once I share your rpg taste :P

Both were weak or just plain sucked, but at least G2 has pretty graphics and a quality battle system. SIII has 1/2 a story and that's about all it has going for it.
 
Suikoden III had purty character design (although not as good as Suikoden II overall or even Suikoden I) and a decent concept with the Trinity Sight system. It's a shame that the TS system turned out to be incredibly lame.
 
Suikoden 3 is a very slow paced game, I played it for 20 hours and noticed not much was going on, so I quit it... Battle system also sucks, IMO.

Grandia 2 is a bit cliche and super super linear, but the battle system is at least good. I'd get the DC version of Grandia 2 over Suikoden 3.

And to whoever said it, the last dungeon in Dark Cloud 2 is absolutely gorgeous. One of the best RPG dungeon graphics I've ever seen.
 
I've watched my cousins play Grandia 2 and I don't like it at all. I finished Suikoden 3 with every character in 80+ hours and I love the game. The atmosphere is superb.
 
Suikoden 3, although I'm biased beacuse I simply love the series.
Suikoden 2 is still the best in the series and will keep this title at least until a Suikoden 5 comes out...
 
Suikoden 3 was a horrible rpg imo. The 3 way system was a cool idea tho although it made the game really repetitive. Story was ok, gameplay sucked.
 
Suikoden 3 starts to take off when Grandia 2 is already over. I loved both, but the combat is definitively better in Grandia 2. On the other hand the story in Suikoden 3 is better, the trinity system is great! Too bad they dropped it in Suikoden 4. I liked the characters in both games, a bit more in Grandia 2, especially Millenia. Oh... a last thing: Grandia 2 (at least in the Dreamcast version) is the easiest RPG I've ever played.
 
I'm gonna say this as nicely a spossible; Grandia II poops all over Suikoden III.

Frankly Skies of Arcadia beats them both.

Sui is just too slow and methodical for my liking. Grandia II has serious plot issues (especially toward the end) but the battle system and graphics (by the way, this game looks infinitely better than Sui 3 too) make up for it.

In my opinion the first Grandia was better than number 2. One really had nothing to do with the other plotwise, so that's probably why.
 
I never fell for Grandia 1. Maybe it was the horrible voices, maybe the slow and boring plot, or the ugly graphics (PSX version). I liked Grandia 2 more actually.

Suikoden II is far superior IMO.
 
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