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[Mammoth Jones]

yknow. I was and am something of a 'both sider' as far as gaf goes. I think its apparent though to most people that having criticisms for either side of a political system isn't the same as creating a moral equivalence.

The problem is when a 'both sider' uses irrelevant criticisms from the "other" side to deflect from what ONLY one side is doing.

 

[____]

And not ONE person will be arrested for this assault.

Probably won’t even try to look for them.

 

[Sunster]

yknow. I was and am something of a 'both sider' as far as gaf goes. I think its apparent though to most people that having criticisms for either side of a political system isn't the same as creating a moral equivalence.

where do you land on this particular issue?

 

[Frozenprince]

The problem is when a 'both sider' uses irrelevant criticisms from the "other" side to deflect from what ONLY one side is doing.

As some posters here have a prolonged history of doing.

 

[geomon]

Just so I'm not jumping to conclusions... those heavily armored dudes in black with helmets and big ass guns and riot shields doing absolutely nothing... those are cops right?

I mean the difference between militia and cops are hard so I need to ask.

They are not cops. They are nazi's in riot gear.

but they arrested a girl just for talking into a megaphone.

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[Not]

yknow. I was and am something of a 'both sider' as far as gaf goes. I think its apparent though to most people that having criticisms for either side of a political system isn't the same as creating a moral equivalence.

You'd be surprised.

Some people only need to hear that one side isn't a blemishless angelic force for benevolence in order to justify their defense of bigots.

 

[Slayven]

The problem is when a 'both sider' uses irrelevant criticisms from the "other" side to deflect from what ONLY one side is doing.

Or strangely only come out defending one side, but be ghosts other times

 

[Fat4all]

Probably won’t even try to look for them.

considering the videos and pictures online it wouldn't be hard to find them and arrest them I'd imagine, but will the police bother is certainly the real question

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Probably won’t even try to look for them.

they will

just to congratulate them

 

[Prodigal Son]

where do you land on this particular issue?

like there's no moral equivalence to me whatsoever. My right-leaning friends are trying to play the 'b-b-but antifa!' game and its bullshit.

You have the issue of a group using morally reprehensible methods to push for morally reprehensible goals. 2/2.

I don't like antifa getting violent, but they aren't advocating for the disgusting things these people are. 1/2.

There's no equivalence. These white nationalist ideals are the real enemy.

He needs the testimony of the guys beating the hell out of that poor guy because they probably have reasons, and tbh the beaten guy has probably done something bad to incite such behavior from others.

lol dude are you just like speaking for me? why

 

[Anticol]

where do you land on this particular issue?

He needs the testimony of the guys beating the hell out of that poor guy because they probably have reasons, and tbh the beaten guy has probably done something bad to incite such behavior from others.

 

[Fat4all]

They are not cops. They are nazi's in riot gear.

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Is that guy with the grey beard the same guy whose in the middle background of the pic?

 

[sphagnum]

This is why Antifa is important, why solidarity is important, why destroying instead of tolerating white supremacy is important.

There can't be tolerance for terrorism.

 

[plagiarize]

Is that guy with the grey beard the same guy whose in the middle background of the pic?

Yep. Same guy.

 

[Sunster]

Is that guy with the grey beard the same guy whose in the middle background of the pic?

wow, yea. that's definitely him.

 

[TaterTots]

These assholes are going to start a race war. That's basically an attempt at lynching. They deserved to be lynched for even pulling this shit. Fuck, this world is not getting better.

 

[Not]

This is why Antifa is important, why solidarity is important, why destroying instead of tolerating white supremacy is important.

There can't be tolerance for terrorism.

Antifa exists because our elected government won't crack down on this stuff, like homeland security was created to do to brown terrorism.

 

[hobozero]

2017. Let that image spread.

The 'racism is over' people ain't shit anymore.

Who is face down on the ground on the left? Seems to be wearing the official KKKhakis,

Edit: also notice no one is helping him (armored fuck next to him). 2nd victim? Someone trip over themselves rushing to the beating?

 

[Fat4all]

Yep. Same guy.

wow, yea. that's definitely him.

It almost looks like he's supervising the beating, and having his goons block off/guard the scene or something.

 

[Regginator]

.

Damn.

 

[Bigboss242]

Yea fuck this country.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

I feel like two wrongs make a right here.

But I'm morally conflicted. These are clearly (and I mean CLEARLY) people with violent hatred and they're enacting on it and spreading their ideals to their children even. And killing them could only make them a martyr and support the "all sides" mentality. How do you end this?

 

[Mammoth Jones]

These assholes are going to start a race war. That's basically an attempt at lynching. They deserved to be lynched for even pulling this shit. Fuck, this world is not getting better.

I disagree. If slavery didn't start a race war.

Or the treatment of Blacks during reconstruction...

Or the treatment of Blacks during Jim Crow....

Or the civil rights act....

...etc. Nothing will. How much do we need to take to continue to show the world we the most forgiving mofos around. A lot of right wing nationalists afraid of us because they really believe we foaming at the mouth for "revenge" because deep down they know that's how they'd feel if their people were treated with the indignity we have had to endure.

Deep down neo nazi's thirst for this kind of violence. They really want it. But they know most White Americans don't want that shit. So they're trying to convince em they do. What you think the alt-right is about? It's just another pivot for rebranding white nationalism.

 

[RinsFury]

Fuck everything. These right-wing nazi movements need to be crushed before the disease grows any larger. I don't care how, but these sickening fucks should not be allowed to feel safe demonstrating anywhere on this planet.

 

[Frozenprince]

I disagree. If slavery didn't start a race war.

Or the treatment of Blacks during reconstruction...

Or the treatment of Blacks during Jim Crow....

Or the civil rights act....

...etc. Nothing will. How much do we need to take to continue to show the world we the most forgiving mofos around. A lot of right wing nationalists afraid of us because they really believe we foaming at the mouth for "revenge" because deep down they know that's how they'd feel if their people were treated with the indignity we have had to endure.

Deep down neo nazi's thirst for this kind of violence. They really want it. But they know most White Americans don't want that shit. So they're trying to convince em they do. What you think the alt-right is about? It's just another pivot for rebranding white nationalism.

More and more though we're proven right when we advocated for everybody to get strapped.

 

[StrategyFan]

I feel like two wrongs make a right here.

But I'm morally conflicted. These are clearly (and I mean CLEARLY) people with violent hatred and they're enacting on it and spreading their ideals to their children even. And killing them could only make them a martyr and support the "all sides" mentality. How do you end this?

by not letting them raise children

they're basically unfit to do so by any civilized standard. the tricky part is identifying them and enforcing it

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

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https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/896383176695848961

 

[Frozenprince]

https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/896383176695848961

Guarantee the primary thought of all those bigots the minute they saw that poor man was "okay if we do this, here's how we lynch him".

 

[sphagnum]

I feel like two wrongs make a right here.

But I'm morally conflicted. These are clearly (and I mean CLEARLY) people with violent hatred and they're enacting on it and spreading their ideals to their children even. And killing them could only make them a martyr and support the "all sides" mentality. How do you end this?

Enact hate speech laws, declare fascist parties and organizations to be terrorists, arrest them and execute the ones who kill people. Don't treat them with mercy.

 

[Prodigal Son]

by not letting them raise children

they're basically unfit to do so by any civilized standard. the tricky part is identifying them and enforcing it

What exactly are you advocating for here?

 

[Slayven]

Guarantee the primary thought of all those bigots the minute they saw that poor man was "okay if we do this, here's how we lynch him".

He is a better man then their entire bloodline could ever be

 

[Apt101]

If people show up apparently armed for combat in large numbers, why the fuck did the police not interrogate them and confiscate the weapons? If I go walking down the street with a shield and shillelagh, adorned in riot gear, I would expect to be stopped by the police rather quickly.

 

[Windam]

Smh

 

[Not]

What exactly are you advocating for here?

Yeah, the key is to just keep having more brown children than them. Change the world faster than they can maintain it.

That said, child services is a thing. Nazis shouldn't raise kids.

 

[Kibbles]

2017. Let that image spread.

The 'racism is over' people ain't shit anymore.

So are those cops just letting it happen?

Or wait... those aren't cops are they. :/

 

[Prodigal Son]

Yeah, the key is to just keep having more brown children then them. Change the world faster than they can maintain it.

hell yeah

That said, child services is a thing. Nazis shouldn't raise kids.

Aw that edit :/

cmon fellas. its abundantly apparent how dangerous it is to set up a precedent for not allowing people to raise kids based on asserted political views. we really dont help ourselves when he get authoritarian here. were liberals

 

[Regulus Tera]

Why can't it be like "I see you're carrying a pole/spear/shield," so you are under arrest? Why do police allow people to bring weapons? If you're armed to rumble, you're gonna rumble.

2nd Amendment

 

[StrategyFan]

What exactly are you advocating for here?

idk what the procedures are

there should be something in place to make sure kids of terrorists don't get raised by terrorists

 

[Ponn]

You'd be surprised.

Some people only need to hear that one side isn't a blemishless angelic force for benevolence in order to justify their defense of bigots.

But she called him "white" after he honked at her and her daughter and was yelling bitch at her. That gave him a free racist pass.

 

[R10Neymarfan]

But maybe he should have debated with them when they were hitting him with the poles. Got to understand the other side. Have empathy

 

[Masterspeed]

So are those cops just letting it happen?

Or wait... those aren't cops are they. :/

They're not cops, they're Nazis in riot gear.

Because protesting is totally allowed if you're carrying melee weapons and riot gear, because it's totally going to be a "peaceful" protest where armed forces aren't needed at all.

Send in the fucking army, Jesus.

They're terrorists and they should be treated like terrorists.

 

[Kthulhu]

Enact hate speech laws, declare fascist parties and organizations to be terrorists, arrest them and execute the ones who kill people. Don't treat them with mercy.

Or just put them in prison. Let's not throw out all logic because they have.

 

[Geist-]

I'll let the Dead Kennedys describe my feelings on the matter.

 

[Prodigal Son]

idk what the procedures are

there should be something in place to make sure kids of terrorists don't get raised by terrorists

Sure but who decides who's a 'terrorist'. Most people at this thing arent driving cars into protesters. Is every dumbshit dickhead who's worried about """white genocide""" a terrorist? You gonna take a lady's newborn from her if shes anti immigration?

 

[Sunster]

But she called him "white" after he honked at her and her daughter and was yelling bitch at her. That gave him a free racist pass.

god that thread was trash

 

[sphagnum]

Or just put them in prison. Let's not throw out all logic because they have.

It's throwing out logic to execute murderers...?

 

[ZeoVGM]

idk what the procedures are

there should be something in place to make sure kids of terrorists don't get raised by terrorists

So you're suggesting something insane that you realize there is absolutely no way to actually make happen.

 

[watershed]

Black people literally just want to be treated as equal human beings. White people always scream back "No!" and do everything in their power to make sure that never happens.

 

[MetalGearZed]

2017. Let that image spread.

The 'racism is over' people ain't shit anymore.

2017: Racist imagery that you were used to seeing in black and white now remastered in 4k and HDR

 

[You Know Nothing]

Black people literally just want to be treated as equal human beings. White people always scream back "No!" and do everything in their power to make sure that never happens.

300 years of American history in a nutshell.