Who can you trust anymore?

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Im 36 years old.

During my 36 years here on this Earth, I feel two of the biggest issues thats Ive experienced are 9/11 and the warming of the Earth. Both issues usually dominate the news in forms of how we deal with these things. If I turn on Foxnews I hear about rah rah rah Muslims bad, or rah rah rah planet warming is false. On the flipside of that if I turn on a liberal news source I get the complete opposite.

When I was younger, I guess I just wanted to throw on my team liberal tshirt and go forth blindly. Growing up here in America, public school I feel teaches you that you have to choose a side. Theres no in between here. This form of thinking starts at the very youngest age and has enshrined itself all the way up to the top in our politics. You cant root for both teams. A viable third party candidate will only EVER result in skewing the two party election which really means nothing then since its still going to be the same thing we have had.

Anyway, back to the two issues I mentioned, 9/11 and global warming.

Both sides of the political party have their beliefs on what happened in regards to 9/11. Both sides use this event as a way to spin a negative attack onto the other side. If youre in the middle youre a lunatic who believes in conspiracy theories.

Is Jim Farmer a lunatic? He served as the senior counsel to the 9/11 commission. He said in his book that the official version of the 9/11 events is almost entirely untrue. Now that frightens me. Lets not argue about what happened, but lets question why this doesnt dominate the still daily discussion on 9/11. This guy was chosen by George Bush to be on this commission and he says its bullshit.

Im not trying to start a discussion about what really happened. We have a whole huge thread for that. Once again, however, in the face of uncertainty, we just pick and choose a side of whats presented to us in the mass media. We all just throw on the "Team Muslims did it" or "Team Bush did it" and we are content. How come we arent throwing on the "Team I dont know what the fuck happened" tshirt because the guy that we paid to investigate the incident says he doesnt know what happened and that the official version is false.

Now onto global warming. This call to arms is the liberals version of 9/11. Now dont get me wrong, the whole planet needs to be sustainable for life and we should be doing our damnedest to ensure that we keep our only home we have clean. Once again, however, we have to pick a side. Youre either with the liberals on this or youre on the side of global warming is a myth. There seems to be no alternative presented in the media for us to digest and think about. This frightens me even more than the 9/11 shenanigans because most people are arguing from the perspective of who is to blame while we ignore the deadly elephant in the room which is the fact that the ENTIRE solar system is experiencing global warming. You can google countless science articles that show data that says that we are witnessing changing climates on planets and moons all the way out to Neptune's moon. For everything else in the solar system, this climate change is blamed on the changing sun, but for Earth its a political agenda aimed at us.

So this leaves me to ask, where can I just go find unbiased news designed without an agenda. My father says when he was young the nightly news used to be like that. Now freedom of the press is reserved for whoever owns the press.

Who can you trust anymore?
 
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I read the whole post anticipating the transition to a gaming related topic. I thought I was reading the greatest introduction the gaming side has ever seen.

But the transition never came.

I feel betrayed. From life and everything. Who can I still trust when even GamingGAF isn't about gaming anymore?
 
You sound like you are moderately susceptible to fringe/unsupported theories.

Googling "is the entire solar system warming", I find one or two recognizable sources from 2007 about one Russian scientist making this claim, in which the vast majority of the scientific community denounces the claim in the very same article:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

And a bunch of other fringey conspiracy sites parroting the claim.
 
There is no such thing as "unbiased" news -- internal or external. Everything is a consequence/effect of cognitive biases -- yours and the reporters. And information is rarely presented as raw numbers and almost always needs a narrative form for presentation. We can be objective in the scientific and quantitative sense but not in the Nietzschean.
 
I trust the beautiful Nigerian princess who wants to marry me and transfer millions of dollars into my bank account.
 
You sound like you are moderately susceptible to fringe/unsupported theories.

Googling "is the entire solar system warming", I find one or two recognizable sources from 2007 about one Russian scientist making this claim, in which the vast majority of the scientific community denounces the claim in the very same article:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

And a bunch of other fringey conspiracy sites parroting the claim.

Heres a national geographic article talking about Mars and its changing environment.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Heres an article from an MIT guy that obtained data from Hubble that shows that Neptune's moon, Triton, has heated up since Voyager saw it.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1998/triton.html

MIT and NatGeo are not fringe.
 
There is no such thing as "unbiased" news -- internal or external. Everything is a consequence/effect of cognitive biases -- yours and the reporters. And information is rarely presented as raw numbers and almost always needs a narrative form for presentation. We can be objective in the scientific and quantitative sense but not in the Nietzschean.
Rather: there are subjective models under which we, as individuals in a Judeo-Christian society, like to classify and quantify observations, concepts, and analyses in order to more easily understand subject matter. Despite all of this, there is no truth when there is no objective perspective, a perspective impossible as long as Wittgenstein's principles are in effect.

In short: there are only illusions, no matter how intricate. But that's okay, since some humans are still smart enough to deal with that realization. And I trust NeoGAF.
 
OP what other things do you believe we are being lied to about. I am interested. Personally I am not much of a skeptic but I am just trying to see where you stand on things.
 
Also, no more than intended offense, but 9/11 and global warming are bad examples. 90% of the "trust" or lack thereof related to those subjects is artificial and nonsensical. As general premises you can trust that 9/11 was not a conspiracy and the Earth is warming.
 
OP what other things do you believe we are being lied to about.

I dont believe that the two large political parties are outright lying to us. I believe the data is being twisted into a method to gain political followers and financial gain. No one has a stake in just presenting the raw data and asking us to think.
 
Heres a national geographic article talking about Mars and its changing environment.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Heres an article from an MIT guy that obtained data from Hubble that shows that Neptune's moon, Triton, has heated up since Voyager saw it.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1998/triton.html

MIT and NatGeo are not fringe.

You're right, they're not fringe! Which is why I linked the exact same NatGeo article in my post. Did you read the two-thirds of it dedicated to debunking the scientist's claim that both Mars's and Earth's temperature increases are caused primarily by changes in the Sun?
 
You are framing this completely wrong.

If you don't trust the credibility of certain people, and then pick and choose what you want to be true because "you can't trust anyone", you are doing it wrong.

Empirical proof. Science. These things are the closest we can get to the truth with minimal human interference.

This book might help you sort out why people believe, and how you can decide what to believe.

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When I was younger, I guess I just wanted to throw on my team liberal tshirt and go forth blindly. Growing up here in America, public school I feel teaches you that you have to choose a side. Theres no in between here. This form of thinking starts at the very youngest age and has enshrined itself all the way up to the top in our politics. You cant root for both teams. A viable third party candidate will only EVER result in skewing the two party election which really means nothing then since its still going to be the same thing we have had.

maybe you felt that but pretty sure the rest of us just went to learn different subjects. never even heard the word liberal or conservative thrown around.
 
Is this like some viral E3 marketing that's teasing the announcement of a new game? Splinter Cell: Conspiracy Theory?
 
Both sides of the political party have their beliefs on what happened in regards to 9/11. Both sides use this event as a way to spin a negative attack onto the other side. If youre in the middle youre a lunatic who believes in conspiracy theories.
Actually I don't think claim is true. The political parties disagree with what happened on 9/11? This is the first I am hearing this.
 
There was only one person I truly trusted. He's dead now, so I really don't trust anyone. I have friends that I'm more inclined to believe, but I'd be lying if I wasn't paranoid enough to not take much of what they say at face value. And I'm paranoid enough not to tell them much.
 
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