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[Captain Glanton]

Well this is where we disagree then. The purpose of working is to earn money but if somebody offered you a job where you earned 60, 000 a year, but you hated the job and it made you miserable, while another man offered you a job where you earned 50, 000 a year, and you enjoyed this job, which one would you pick? One provides you with a little more money, but you hate it, while the other provides you with slightly less, but you enjoy it. I sure as hell would pick the second one because it provides me with more than enough to live on and I'd rather enjoy something that I spend a lot of time doing, but if you believe the sole purpose of a job is making money then I suppose you'd pick the second?

To me, the purpose of work is to provide for others [a rare attitude for an American, I know, but that's another discussion].

I enjoy my food AND I don't under nourish my body by enjoying a balanced diet. Balanced for me means that I can eat a chocolate bar if I fancy it, I can pour creamy carbonara sauce over my pasta, and I can marinate my steak in BBQ sauce and fry it in a pan, so long as I make sure I watch my portions, do enough exercise, and stick within about 2500-3000 calories a day. I might not have the physique of a bodybuilder, but I'm lean and reasonably muscular-I box a little so a leaner physique is preferred. (I've posted pics of it before on GAF if you want to check I'm not bullshitting.) Sure it's not a perfect body, I could certainly bulk up a bit and maybe cut a little, but it's certainly good enough IMO and it means I can enjoy every meal that I eat. I laugh at some of the guys down the gym that excessively follow strict obsessive diet regimes, especially when we get in the ring and they're not much fitter than the rest of us.

My point is that you have to realize that there's nothing in the chocolate bar that makes you want it. The desire for sugary food is something that had to be created in European society [and following over to America] over a long period of time; in fact, it was the effect of the first widespread advertising campaign. When they first started imported massive quantities of sugary from the New World, no one wanted it, and they thought it tasted terrible. Over decades, they learned to like it, with the help of the ads.

If you're training ever day and eating a chocolate bar a week, that's great. I do basically the same. But the fact remains that the typical Hershey's customer is doing the opposite--eating their junk every day and exercising once a week, if that. When people define their eating by pleasure, you get diets like the OP's, or situations like my home town, where every time I go out [visiting at Xmas and whatnot] I see people struggling to cross a parking lot. That's what bothers me.

/end Crazy Old Man time.

 

[Darkman M]

Ill say it again weightlifting+ decent diet is the absolute best way to burn fat. These four exercises 3x a week is guaranteed to build you strength and mass or burn tons of fat depending on your diet.

Squat
Deadlift
Bench
Military press


Is all you need to do to work your whole body.

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

 

[MisterAnderson]

Color of the bread makes no difference at all as to the actual nutritional content of the bread. I've seen 'white' bread thats about as nutritious as that grocery store 'whole wheat' loaf, and I've seen fancy multigrain shit that had the nutritional content of wonderbread.

No carbs after 1 is a stupid rule unless you are not physically active at all. If you actually, you know, do stuff during the day and night, carbs will be stored as glycogen, not fat. Fat is a much longer term storage, and it takes more energy to do the conversion, so if your body knows you are gonna be needing that energy tonight or tomorrow, it will go into glycogen, not fat.

Nothing wrong with juice also. Theres a reason people like sweet things, because we have evolved to digest and burn sugars very easily with very little overhead. It is the body's preferred fuel.

Your suggested diet is boring as hell (any diet with skim milk I automatically ignore, whole milk all the way, even that 2% shit is weaksauce, I don't need milk thats almost the consistency of water), but then again, I don't buy into the whole calorie restriction thing. I say you should be able to eat whatever you want, my stomach says it wants something, it gets it, I just make sure I burn all that fuel. If your muscles aren't beat at the end of the day ready to go to sleep and suck up all that food you ate for repairs and refueling, then you're doing it wrong.

lol