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Why be a snitch?

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Odoul

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I just got contacted by my job. They've got some questions about some timeclock issues. It's been working for months. The only thing I can figure is that some little asshole noticed me getting over and didn't like it.

But WHY? If I'm not doing hurting someone or doing anything illegal(and even if I am) what possible reason could you have to snitch and ruin someone else's shit?
 
You do something immoral -- cheat your employer out of money you didn't earn -- and then complain when someone else betrays YOUR trust?
 

calder

Member
Obviously you'll have to explain exactly what you've been doing so we can tell how strongly to take the other side.

Sure, some ppl snitch for selfish reasons but if you were doing something bad enough that they felt it was creating more work for them or hurting the company I could see doing it. And some people are just hardcore against anyone else "abusing" the system. I wouldn't drop a dime on someone at work without some pretty serious reasons but not everyone is a moral blank slate like me. ;)
 

ChrisReid

Member
Some people have crazy concepts like integrity and fairness in their head. Coincidentally, they have contempt for people who do unjust things.
 
It is possible no one snitched on you. They might have realized a time clock/work discrepancy based on when you log on and off the computer or when you swipe your security card? Who knows. I am not sure what sort of work you do but I would think most employers have some sort of controls put in to monitor things like time clocks.
 

fallout

Member
I'm not entirely sure what the circumstances were, but cheating your employer does affect other people and possibly you. If you were causing more work for me, or even just getting paid for things you didn't do, I'd be a little pissed off.

I think the better question is: Why be a douche?
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
You'd better start looking for another job companies take time theft real seriously.
At some companies you can be termed for not coming forward if you know someone is breaking policy.

So much for sticking it to the man! Good luck in the unemployment line! :lol
 

Odoul

Member
I got switched from the quality control room to night maintenance. We get a list of machines to check out and repair.

When you get done you chill until morning or stay on call. If I work for two hours or ten it doesn't matter. I had some business to take care of (doctor's etc. stuff I'm ten minutes away at most) so I leave for a few hours without punching out and come back when it's quitting time. I haven't gotten paged once and I've only done it a few times. This is a job where you can take a nap on the shop floor if you're not needed, someone HAD to rat me out. And I think it was this old bitter fukk I work with.
 

Boogie

Member
I love being a snitch against people who deserve it. Why protect people who don't deserve your protection?

In 8th grade, I told my parents (and subsequently the police) about a kid who stole a thousand dollars from his parents. The kid was a thief, so why should I protect him if he's stupid enough to be bragging to everyone on the schoolyard about how he stole the money? :p
 

AntoneM

Member
Odoul said:
I got switched from the quality control room to night maintenance. We get a list of machines to check out and repair.

When you get done you chill until morning or stay on call. If I work for two hours or ten it doesn't matter. I had some business to take care of (doctor's etc. stuff I'm ten minutes away at most) so I leave for a few hours without punching out and come back when it's quitting time. I haven't gotten paged once and I've only done it a few times. This is a job where you can take a nap on the shop floor if you're not needed, someone HAD to rat me out. And I think it was this old bitter fukk I work with.


you expect GAF to sympathise with you on that? seriously, when you punch in you punch in to work, not to go to the dentist or whatever, I'd love to get paid to run my errands too. It doesn't matter if you could sleep for 5 hours on the job, you're paid to be there so you better damn well be there. Sorry for being harsh but that kind of crap just doesn't fly.

Boogie, what the hell did you do that for, it wasn't harming anyone was it? I mean he took it from his own family and if it was money his family needed he would have eventually suffered anyway.
 

DDayton

(more a nerd than a geek)
... so you were punching in, leaving the job, then sneaking in just in time to punch out?

Now, call me crazy, but if I worked the day shift maintaining the computers, I'd get a bit annoyed if I found out the night shift guy snuck out and still got paid for it. If it happened once, I'd ignore it -- how am I to know if he was actually sneaking out, or it was a family emergency and he got permission? But if the night shift guy sneaks out on a frequent basis, I'd be a bit peturbed that he was being paid to do NOTHING while I had to stay in the office all day long and check equipment.

For all you know, someone assumed you had permission to leave the premises if you didn't receive a page, and was asking if they could do the same thing during the day. It wasn't necessarily someone "snitching" ... but heck, I think they'd be perfectly justified if they did.

Turning someone in for dinky little offenses is stupid. NOT turning someone in for larger problems is even more stupid. If you are the computer/tech guy for the evening shift, I assume that there are people who depend on you keeping track of the computers. I spent several months doing something similar -- the company had had a problem with the coolant system malfunctioning, so they needed someone to keep track of the machines on the night shift. Whoever hired you had a reason for keeping you there at night...
 

Dilbert

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Why "snitch?"

1) If someone is aware of you breaking the rules and says nothing, they could be considered an accomplice, and their employment could be at risk. In that situation, they have no choice but to report you.

2) Although I doubt it's the case with your job, one of the obligations of holding a security clearance is to report adverse information against other cleared personnel. Failure to do so could mean the revocation of your own clearance.

3) Some people believe in a moral imperative -- your cheating/lying/whatever HAS to be reported.

At least in my own experience, people who use the word "snitch" are usually doing some shit for which they deserve to be called on the carpet.
 

bjork

Member
I get paid to shop or visit other stores on the clock... but I get no breaks or lunch, so it somehow balances out in the owner's eyes.
 

Boogie

Member
max_cool said:
Boogie, what the hell did you do that for, it wasn't harming anyone was it? I mean he took it from his own family and if it was money his family needed he would have eventually suffered anyway.

Because I don't like to see low-lifes getting away with criminal behaviour? :p

Again, why should someone who has no integrity, respect, or honour deserve the protection of my silence?
 

pestul

Member
This behavior pretty much mirrors every overnight/oncall engineer I have ever worked with. 3hrs is a little excessive though dude.. I could see going out for like 15min to buy a snack or something..
 

WedgeX

Banned
Odoul said:
I got switched from the quality control room to night maintenance. We get a list of machines to check out and repair.

When you get done you chill until morning or stay on call. If I work for two hours or ten it doesn't matter. I had some business to take care of (doctor's etc. stuff I'm ten minutes away at most) so I leave for a few hours without punching out and come back when it's quitting time. I haven't gotten paged once and I've only done it a few times. This is a job where you can take a nap on the shop floor if you're not needed, someone HAD to rat me out. And I think it was this old bitter fukk I work with.


You sound like the jerks at my work who did the same thing.

On afternoon shifts, the guys would sit around/leave during their shifts while staying clocked in since they had no supervision (all the bosses leave for the day at like 3:30).

Needless to say this caused us more work each day since they didn't do their jobs, and it was noticeable that we were doing twice the work that we ought to have been doing.

One night one of our bosses stayed late, and sees one of them drive off while clocked in.

So he waits.


...


Four hours later the guy drive up to the time clock and clocks out...in front of the boss.

Amazingly he didn't get fired, but suspended for a month or two without pay.
 
-jinx- said:
Why "snitch?"

1) If someone is aware of you breaking the rules and says nothing, they could be considered an accomplice, and their employment could be at risk. In that situation, they have no choice but to report you.

2) Although I doubt it's the case with your job, one of the obligations of holding a security clearance is to report adverse information against other cleared personnel. Failure to do so could mean the revocation of your own clearance.

3) Some people believe in a moral imperative -- your cheating/lying/whatever HAS to be reported.

At least in my own experience, people who use the word "snitch" are usually doing some shit for which they deserve to be called on the carpet.
Yes, we do feel like we are doing the righteous thing. I reported that there was cheating in a class of mine... I didn't feel that they deserved a good score in the class. While other students actually studied, these kids were helping each other out. Not only that, they talked in lecture. The class was on a bell curve so I made sure they got what they deserve. If I had not said anything, they might have gotten away with it. Who knows.
 

Odoul

Member
Well I checked it out. I happen to be cool with the particular foreman I talked to. No I wasn't fired or reprimanded or anything. He basically said there was no proof and it was a he-said-she-said. More like a "come on man" warning. If someone else got word and really wanted to be an asshole I could be in some trouble.

Still that's ho shit to pull.
 

AntoneM

Member
Boogie said:
Because I don't like to see low-lifes getting away with criminal behaviour? :p

Again, why should someone who has no integrity, respect, or honour deserve the protection of my silence?

but your silence wouldn't be protecting him since the missing money would have eventually come around to bite him in the ass. Justice would have been done without any interference
 

Boogie

Member
max_cool said:
but your silence wouldn't be protecting him since the missing money would have eventually come around to bite him in the ass. Justice would have been done without any interference

I just like to contribute. :p
 

marsomega

Member
max_cool said:
but your silence wouldn't be protecting him since the missing money would have eventually come around to bite him in the ass. Justice would have been done without any interference

Yea boogie! Sooner or later his parents would find out. Then he'll run away and pay for it by not having a family no more. Later on, he may just go and rob another family, then another, the another, maybe one day hurt somebody in the process. Don't worry, eventually the cops will get him hell, he may trip and hurt his knee really really bad, that will show him! I mean why stop him early? Life eventually get him. If one day your family or someone you care about gets robbed by this crook and/or hurt/killed, just let it go. He'll pay sooner or later....



Just wait it out.
 
Hammy said:
Yes, we do feel like we are doing the righteous thing. I reported that there was cheating in a class of mine... I didn't feel that they deserved a good score in the class. While other students actually studied, these kids were helping each other out. Not only that, they talked in lecture. The class was on a bell curve so I made sure they got what they deserve. If I had not said anything, they might have gotten away with it. Who knows.
I did exactly that in my Psych 101 class for the final. finished the test, walked out, wrote a short note explaining the situation, walked back in and handed it to the teacher, walked out. No idea if anything came of it, but those fucks deserved it.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
Boogie: That's why you don't get laid. You gotta handle your own shit first.

Anyway, if the job gets done, I wouldn't rat. But if someone's slacking was costing me extra work, I'd first warn them myself. Let them know that they at least gotta take care of their end, otherwise I'm going to the boss. And if they don't listen, then you report them. There's no love lost. There's no reason to be doing someone else's work. But if they aren't affecting me, I won't snitch. My name ain't Kobe. :D PEACE.
 
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