Jive Turkey
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Why can't we just separate the Nintendo stuff?
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Drinky Crow said:
Is it just me or this post shows a lack of videogame passion? I agree with your post but you assume to be knowing HOW seriously people should take videogames when you just can't judge that. Many posters in videogames forums aren't casual gamers and show passion. And this isn't wrong. And you will have to cope with that until the end of this world or this industry.
I mean, take me per example. I'm no fanboy and i take videogames more seriously that most people. I have passion for it and i have a career in this business now. You almost disrespect people in this post dude.
Drinky Crow
Banned
Fuck "passion". I'm an adult, not a dull kid. I have a wife, a kid of my own, a 50+ hr/week job, a writing hobby, several friends I like to hang with, a couple forums I post to, political blogs and books to read, a house to maintain -- exactly WHERE does that leave room for gaming to be some sort of dreadfully serious, all-consuming PASSION?
You're right, I don't have "passion". I don't WANT passion, especially for videogames. What I wanna do is have fun during the free time I have to play games, where I sit in front of a television and twiddle with a controller. How anyone can treat an idle amusement with such leaden gravity is beyond me. If you have so much energy for gaming that it turns into activism, you really need to fucking get out more.
You're right, I don't have "passion". I don't WANT passion, especially for videogames. What I wanna do is have fun during the free time I have to play games, where I sit in front of a television and twiddle with a controller. How anyone can treat an idle amusement with such leaden gravity is beyond me. If you have so much energy for gaming that it turns into activism, you really need to fucking get out more.
Drinky Crow said:
That's cool. But don't expect people to have the same life as you do and the same passions as you do. Your time and passion isn't for videogames and that's fine, it's your right to be you.... just as other people have this right too. I hope there's stuff you take seriously/have passion for dude like your kid/wife/job/hobbies, it's sanity.
Do you understand my point of view?
(just quick answer please and let's go back on topic, i don't want to transform the thread into another discussion)
I can't imagine why anyone would want to separate the Nintendo stuff. Do people really get that upset over insults to something they love? For me, that is part of the appeal. A thread with nothing but positive remarks and full agreement is no fun at all. The most interesting and appealing threads typically feature an argument of some sort.
Let's just say the data is....interesting.Minotauro said:
However, there is a difference between owning a Nintendo console, and being a Nintendo fanboy...unless you make the assumption that fanboyism is directly proportional to ownership. In other words, if you could prove that x% of console owners of any kind are fanboys, then showing that (% Nintendo) > (% other system) would be sufficient to prove your point.
Cold-Steel
Member
-jinx- said:
It might not be warranted, but it's become justified.
You guys let this crap out on the streets, now you have to clean it up.
That goes for both sides.
-jinx- said:
You're probably right that we would need to distinguish between console owners and fanboys. The two obviously aren't completely synonymous. Still, I would imagine that single-console ownership might have a correlation with fanboy tendencies.
Also, you say this data is "interesting"...did I miss a poll that's been conducted already?
Drinky Crow
Banned
IT'S THE NINTENDOCAUST!!! POKEMON KRYSTALLNACHT IS COMING!!!
When you compare a little videogaming forum mod humor at your expense with but a pittance of bans thrown for emphasis to one of the most horrific acts of genocide ever committed in the name of nationalism...
uh
geezus, even I don't have the adequate hyperbole to circumscribe THAT sort of absentee perspective. You win. It's all over. I do think you kinda made my point for me, though.
When you compare a little videogaming forum mod humor at your expense with but a pittance of bans thrown for emphasis to one of the most horrific acts of genocide ever committed in the name of nationalism...
uh
geezus, even I don't have the adequate hyperbole to circumscribe THAT sort of absentee perspective. You win. It's all over. I do think you kinda made my point for me, though.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Can't we all just hug a puppy? Goddam!
Drinky, I agree with you that there should be a limit to how seriously you should take video games and that a video game forum should be the same case, but don't you think you're going a bit far with your power by banning members for simple harmless comments?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I love analogies!Jonnyram said:
Sure, but you've obviously got some specific tastes. He averages a 7.1 at KidRankings. Maybe when he hits $20.Dr_Cogent said:
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
OK...Now that was some kinda funny.JoshuaJSlone said:
Ridiculous. The main reason I bother to get on and come here is because it is one of the few decent forums that covers all aspects of gaming at once. I like to find info here about my GCN just as much as I do my PS2 and XBox.
Here I thought this place was getting better about accepting Nintendo after the positive nature of the Iwata thread and then some stupid fanboy comes and rains hell on everyone. Great.
Drinky: You claim that you want to end all the Nintendo fanboyism because they are foolishly limiting themselves and so not having nearly as much fun. What about all the PS2 fanboys who are limiting themselves as well? There are so many "death to Nintendo" and "buy a PS2 or die" sentiments that you allow yet if the reverse was said you would have a field day with the bannings that would ensue.
Here I thought this place was getting better about accepting Nintendo after the positive nature of the Iwata thread and then some stupid fanboy comes and rains hell on everyone. Great.
Drinky: You claim that you want to end all the Nintendo fanboyism because they are foolishly limiting themselves and so not having nearly as much fun. What about all the PS2 fanboys who are limiting themselves as well? There are so many "death to Nintendo" and "buy a PS2 or die" sentiments that you allow yet if the reverse was said you would have a field day with the bannings that would ensue.
Drinky Crow said:
And this doesn't apply to you...why exactly? What are your anti-Nintendo based actions other than "activism"? What about those who want to have fun during their free time by coming here and being entertained or informed through interacting with others on a messageboard, and maybe even about specific consoles or topics? Why is their idle amusement treated with such leaden gravity by you?
Drinky Crow said:
oh the sweet sweet irony.. :lol
Cold-Steel
Member
Bigfonzie said:
JEDI: "The senate has been corrupted by the dark side!"
SENATE: "The Jedi attempted to murder the Supreme Chancellor!"
OBI-WAN: "You were the Chosen One!!!!"
EDIT: Since when was I appointed the Nintendo defender of truth? It feels....dirty.
shpankey
not an idiot
agreedMarconelly said:The funny thing is, I think there's more Nintendo fans on GAF than everyone else combined. Who is being attacked and who is defending has nothing to do with the real state of thingsJust look at the Nintendo related threads (the official RE4 thread being the prime example), they generate more interest than anything else here.
Die Squirrel Die
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We need a GAFstapo to weed out the traitors.
But anyway, when you've been here as long as some people have, say almost 5 and a half years, you start to realise that the more a person complains, the more of a blinkered unreasonable fanboy they probably are. Whenever there's bad news for a company, then the damaged controllers come out of the woodwork. Conversely though, they attract the so called 'anti-' and make them more determined to rub the fanboys face in it. Nintendo just happen to have been the bearer's of the brunt of bad news in the last few years. And as Drinky said, if they weren't so many shrill, hysterical Nintendo fans getting uppity everytime the next NPD comes out, or a new game is announced for PS2 and Xbox but not GC, then there wouldn't half as much Nintendo trolling.
And if people think the current situation is, nothing has yet to rival the sheer vitiolic visciousness of the DC vs PS2 wars. Those were harsh. Makes the PSP/DS arguments look like playing with water pistols, compared to a fullscale WWI trench war.
But anyway, when you've been here as long as some people have, say almost 5 and a half years, you start to realise that the more a person complains, the more of a blinkered unreasonable fanboy they probably are. Whenever there's bad news for a company, then the damaged controllers come out of the woodwork. Conversely though, they attract the so called 'anti-' and make them more determined to rub the fanboys face in it. Nintendo just happen to have been the bearer's of the brunt of bad news in the last few years. And as Drinky said, if they weren't so many shrill, hysterical Nintendo fans getting uppity everytime the next NPD comes out, or a new game is announced for PS2 and Xbox but not GC, then there wouldn't half as much Nintendo trolling.
And if people think the current situation is, nothing has yet to rival the sheer vitiolic visciousness of the DC vs PS2 wars. Those were harsh. Makes the PSP/DS arguments look like playing with water pistols, compared to a fullscale WWI trench war.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
GaimeGuy said:fixed.
BLAST PROCESSING!
I was thinking in GAF history. Some of the arguments went on for days, weeks even. And they spawned the legends of Futami and Deadmeat.
AniHawk said:
I modded a politics forum for a large portal before. We had quite a heavy traffic and being the only moderator, I had a lot to to on my hands.
I totally agree with the above statement. In my forum, I set the ground rules, mainly no ad homenim attacks, no swearing, but I cultivated free thinking, extreme political views were tolerated and I rarely banned people and did a few temp bans to show that I could do it.
The forum functioned perfectly. I went away for aweek only to return and find out it had gone on functioning just fine without my presense. There were a few minor violations of my rules but they were so minor as to be meaningless to ban anyone. I consider that a great achievement in building a community of respect, of ideas and of trust.
GAF admins get all bent out of shape when people criticize them for being authoritarian, but really, compared to what I've seen elsewhere, this place at its worst simply doesn't function and operate primarily on fear.
Everybody getting upset about this needs to take a deep breath or something. Nintendo fans seem to think that they are taking away their rights to post their opinions. I'm sure even Drinky would be the first to say you can still post your opinion, so long as you aren't A TOTAL ASSHAT ABOUT IT. They're not going to ban you for posting a logical, rational opinion on something. They're going to ban you for posting "omfg ds is the shit sony can suck my ass motherfuckers." No message board anywhere is completely fair. So long as you're not an idiot you're fine, and shouldn't worry about being "oppressed" or whatever.
The reason I really like this place over any other gaming board is that the most of the people here are intelligent posters. All of this stuff applies to so few people, let's not make this a bigger deal then it is guys.
The reason I really like this place over any other gaming board is that the most of the people here are intelligent posters. All of this stuff applies to so few people, let's not make this a bigger deal then it is guys.
Smiles and Cries
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We can all get along if we try 
Sony+Nintendo+Microsoft
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L is for the way you look at me
O is for the only one I see
V is very, very extraordinary
E is even more than anyone that you adore can
Love is all that I can give to you
Love is more than just a game for two
Two in love can make it
Take my heart and please don't break it
Love was made for me and you
Don't make me find the Nat King Cole lyrics in Japanese!
Sony+Nintendo+Microsoft
=
L is for the way you look at me
O is for the only one I see
V is very, very extraordinary
E is even more than anyone that you adore can
Love is all that I can give to you
Love is more than just a game for two
Two in love can make it
Take my heart and please don't break it
Love was made for me and you
Don't make me find the Nat King Cole lyrics in Japanese!
Jive Turkey
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You're absolutely right because constant flamebaiting isn't asshat behavior at all.SailorDaravon said:
dark10x said:
some people just don't 'get' arguments. I remember one particularly amusing time happened when I got into an argument with a friend on IRC (I forget what it was about) and people watching the conversation were like, 'why are you guys fighting? Lets jsut make up and be happy. Theres no reason to fight over something stupid like this.'
to which both me and the person I'm arguing with just become dumbfounded and were like. 'why shouldn't we argue?... its fun.'
but they just... didn't understand and kept insisting that we had to make up and be friends and share love and all that garbage and we're just like... why? Thats boring.
I may be a little off topic because I didn't read through all the replies.
I'm new here, so I might not really know how your clockwork is running, but this is how I see it. I'm a Nintendo 'fanboy.' Amazingly, I'm also reasonable. I'm sure this has been said to some extent already, but not all Nintendo fans are 12 year old kids running around screaming pokemon and acting their age. The ones that are, or act like it at least, sure go ahead ban them, hate them, whatever you choose. But there's no reason to be seperatist about it. There's decent people of all tastes in videogames. There's also jackasses with brand loyalties to Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony. I'm going to stop myself before I reamble and overstate.
The point is, there's jackasses in all walks of life. You just have to deal with them.
But really you just have to ban them.
I'm new here, so I might not really know how your clockwork is running, but this is how I see it. I'm a Nintendo 'fanboy.' Amazingly, I'm also reasonable. I'm sure this has been said to some extent already, but not all Nintendo fans are 12 year old kids running around screaming pokemon and acting their age. The ones that are, or act like it at least, sure go ahead ban them, hate them, whatever you choose. But there's no reason to be seperatist about it. There's decent people of all tastes in videogames. There's also jackasses with brand loyalties to Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony. I'm going to stop myself before I reamble and overstate.
The point is, there's jackasses in all walks of life. You just have to deal with them.
But really you just have to ban them.
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