Why do people hate Cam Newton?

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if Peyton or Tom Brady did that there'd be excuses about how they are trying to preserve their bodies.
 
And... I probably won't warm on him after that lack of effort. Not to pile on but seriously that was just bad. I don't care what sport it is. You always make an effort for your team. I feel the same way about players that won't dive for balls in baseball and always just let them drop in front of them. No effort and I don't like you as a player.

Yeah, except diving for, and missing a ball in baseball can turn a single into a home run.
 
That's pretty much every single professional athlete.

True, but, not every one wears it on their face.

Yeah, except diving for, and missing a ball in baseball can turn a single into a home run.

That's true. But I'm more talking about not even running very hard, a slow trot towards the inevitable drop where a dive isn't even going to be an attempt. But on topic. Players that don't make efforts at key moments lose my respect.
 
I dunno why people are mad, I didn't see any dancing or dabbing or whatever.

Dude didn't have a chance to do any celebrating tonight, it was just one hit after another. After that last fumble you could see that all the will in him was shot; he was completely broken. It was a little strange to see that side of him, up until now he's been the eternally cocky optimist. Probably doesn't hurt to get taken down a peg, but man what a brutal way to get it.
 
Most hated player is Tom Brady. During the MVP introduction before the game Brady, a 3 time superbowl mvp, got resounding boos. Cam newtons hate is nothing compared to Brady.
 
Most hated player is Tom Brady. During the MVP introduction before the game Brady, a 3 time superbowl mvp, got resounding boos. Cam newtons hate is nothing compared to Brady.

People just hate cocky, good looking winners. At the end of the day that's all there is to it. Tom Brady is as hated an athlete as is possible and is basically the proto-typical white 'ubermensch' archetype or whatever you want to call it. And yet 90% of white america (and euros such as myself) can't fucking stand the man.

Cam Newton hate isn't dissimilar, and if he keeps winning it'll only get worse. Which is what he and Panthers fans should want.
 
if Peyton or Tom Brady did that there'd be excuses about how they are trying to preserve their bodies.

Maybe I'm naive, but if Brady or Peyton were down one score in the super bowl and had a clear chance to recover their own fumble, they damn well would do whatever it takes to get it, or at least do anything to prevent the defending player from doing so.
 
It was a bad play; I think he was overthinking things, the way the game was going got to him.

Cam is usually criticized for taking hits he could avoid.
 
Cam provided the haters with a scapegoat in his post game.

It's not a scapegoat for haters, it's contributing to why many people dont like him. A guy who is the putting himself in front of the camera during success, and sulking away and avoiding blame when the team doesn't succeed.

When you're the best player in the NFL, the mvp of the league, part of that is taking it on the chin in the post game when you don't want to.

Not going for the fumble though it's tough to judge a guy for that. You cant tell what goes on in someone's mind in that situation and I don't think you can criticize him for it. Happened in the moment. But even besides that, he had a shitty game. While he had a few darts om 3rd dowms, he had a bunch of bad plays missing open recievers and couldn't handle Denver's patient pass rush. We'll remember that lack of effort on the fumble at the end of the super bowl, but his whole game was bad today.
 
Bullshit.

At best they would be called out on how they were to old to play or something.

And yeah, throughout their 15+ year careers... They've never done that. Brady and Manning have no gifs, in that spot, of them avoiding conflict. Of course Brady and Manning are both Super Bowl MVPs, and that's what super bowl MVPs do
 
Most hated player is Tom Brady. During the MVP introduction before the game Brady, a 3 time superbowl mvp, got resounding boos. Cam newtons hate is nothing compared to Brady.

Yeah I can't stand that man far more than Newton. Not as a person because I don't care to know what he's like, but as a professional and simply because the dude wins all of the time. Just spiteful on my part for being a fan of a different team :P
 
Cam is showing exactly why I personally don't like him with the way he handled that post game interview. He wants to laugh it up and do all the dancing routines when he's winning but he's the first guy to drape a towel over his head or run and hide when he loses. He wants the adulation when things are great but can't own up to anything when he loses. He's one of the biggest sore losers in the NFL.
 
Look at how he conducted himself at the end of the game, both on and off the field. Throwing temper tantrums and just being a grumpy asshole.

Too bad they don't make band aids for feelings, eh Cam?
 
Looks like the white Panther player had a better angle to dive for it and Cam let him go for it instead of get in the way.

If cam jumped on that ball it probably wouldn't have made any difference. But it doesn't look good when a white jersey is falling on the ball and you, the guy who fumbled, jumped away.
 
I was starting to warm up to the guy after finally getting to see him in playoff games this year. He was having fun and it was infectious. The pre-game interview was great as well. I really thought they were going to roll today.

But boy did he show himself a poor loser today.
 
if Peyton or Tom Brady did that there'd be excuses about how they are trying to preserve their bodies.
Weren't Panthers fans saying that he's so indestructible and that's why they do those runs with him so often cause he doesn't get hurt? Yet he doesn't go all in on a fumble that could have helped his team in the biggest game of the season.
 
Closer doesn't mean much if the guy is already diving at a better angle. It's not like Cam is gonna get to bend down and pick it up when multple players are diving at it.

Is that the thought process? Always thought when ball is on ground everyone goes for it, like its 2nd nature
 
Netwon took a ton of hits tonight. I might have missed something since I wasn't watching the game too closely, but when he got hit he never flopped, played it up, or tried to whine and appeal to the referees for a flag. It does kinda suck that he got all that punishment, but will be remembered for the one time he bitched out.
 
if Peyton or Tom Brady did that there'd be excuses about how they are trying to preserve their bodies.

Cam's never been one to preserve his body though, dude goes fucking air borne on defenders.

Not questioning him to be honest, I'm not sure what he was thinking, but Cam saving his body, that's a stretch when the dude is willing to helicopter himself into the endzone. That's just the way he reacted, not calling him a coward, just not trying to read into his actions, is what it is.
 
As far as I can tell it's his demeanor. I remind myself he may be making millions and all, but at the end of the day it's just a game - one in which the fans can go crazy and act wild and no one cares, but a player showboats or is a fountain of emotion and suddenly they're "man children".

Also, he's black.
 
The more I look at that play, the more it looks like Cam trying to protect his knee.

It's just a trained reflex. People can call him a pussy or gutless or whatever, but it was 100% the thousands and thousands of times that he's been told that he needs to protect himself at all costs because the team is done without him. Sometimes the urgency of immediate circumstances can't break through that in the half second it takes a moment to pass.

It's the same reason that Denver got that huge punt return -- when you get within 6 inches of a returner and the ball is still at the peak of the kick, don't hit him, he's called a fair catch. Because if he was stupid enough to not call a fair catch, you'd straight murder him. 99 times out of 100, anyway. The half second it took the Panthers to realize that the guy caught the ball without calling a fair catch despite being surrounded by 3 tacklers was enough for him to break out for 61 yards.
 
It's not a scapegoat for haters, it's contributing to why many people dont like him. A guy who is the putting himself in front of the camera during success, and sulking away and avoiding blame when the team doesn't succeed.

Exactly. You get up there, take responsibility, say it's your fault (even if it isn't), and that you'll do better next time. That's what LEADERS do. Cam showed himself to be anything but today. Time will tell if learns from this or not, but that was a bad look.
 
The fumble will overshadow this game and it shouldn't. Because Newton played terribly, missed open recievers, made bad decisions, and could adapt to Denver's defense for 60 minutes. That fumble was the least of his bad plays tonight.
All this talk of Cam, you'd think he won the championship!

He's the NFL mvp, best player in the game, gotta expect to get attention after failing to perform on the biggest stage.
 
Cams whole "Quarterback" speech 2 weeks ago was dumb in retrospect, you are being compared to people with rings, something you don't have, try again next year.
 
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