Why do people hate Cam Newton?

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The important part is the tone, not the amount.
As I said before, I'm sure people hate on Cam simply because he's black. Racism exists, unfortuantely.

My gripe is that certain folks here seem way too trigger-happy labeling others as racists because they enjoy watching Cam lose. Maybe, just maybe, people just like watching him lose because they like watching showboats get shown up, regardless of race. I actually find it pretty entertaining when players taunt, just as I do when taunters get it handed to them later. It's pretty amusing either way.

For what it's worth, I also got a blast out of LBs and DEs doing the discount double check move over Aaron Rodgers when they sack him. I remember some dude on the Lions actually injuring himself in the process. That was pretty funny, too.
 
I still like Cam, but how he acted during/after the game last night wasn't a good look. He came off childish and acted like a poor sport.

I'm all for showboating/having fun on the field and often think those that criticize it are only making themselves look bad, but you also need to be able to handle yourself when things aren't going your way.
 
just some input from someone who doesnt have any relationship to both of them.
I normaly dont watch football, i watched super bowl however. if i hadnt, i propably wouldbnt have clicked on this thread, becasue i wouldnt have known who cam newton is. I have however heard the name manning before and knew he was some kind of football player.
That said, Newton made the impression that hes alot more full of himself (for whatever reason, i dont know anything about the background of black history in NFL/Quarterback position). If i would have to choose i would rather hang out with manning then with newton, i would rather hang out with alot other people then newton.
That said, from what ive seen i cant see him qualify as hateable. He just seems cocky on the surface.
 
I still like Cam, but how he acted during/after the game last night wasn't a good look. He came off childish and acted like a poor sport.

I'm all for showboating/having fun on the field and often think those that criticize it are only making themselves look bad, but you also need to be able to handle yourself when things aren't going your way.

I feel the same. He is fun to watch and I actually think all of his celebrating brings fun to the game. Hell, it's part of why I like the guy. But he lost points with me for not acting like a professional and a leader after the game.

I mean, 3 minutes of his life to take the hood off and answer some questions with grace and dignity like the leader and face of the NFL he is supposed to be is not too much to ask from someone in his position. In fact, it is what is expected and is how nearly every other professional handles their business after a defeat.
 
I feel the same. He is fun to watch and I actually think all of his celebrating brings fun to the game. Hell, it's part of why I like the guy. But he lost points with me for not acting like a professional and a leader after a game.

I mean, 3 minutes of his life to take the hood off and answer some questions with grace and dignity like the leader and face of the NFL he is supposed to be is not too much to ask from someone in his position. In fact, it is what is expected and is how nearly every other professional handles their business after a defeat.

I liken his like/dislike to how people think of McGregor. He's showboating although at least McGregor acknowledges that he does. But either way he's certainly got a long list of haters.

I guess same for Mayweather too although he displays "cockiness" more so outside the ring.
 
just some input from someone who doesnt have any relationship to both of them.
I normaly dont watch football, i watched super bowl however. if i hadnt, i propably wouldbnt have clicked on this thread, becasue i wouldnt have known how cam newton is. I have however heard the name manning before and knew he was some kind of football player.
That said, Newton made the impression that hes alot more full of himself (for whatever reason, i dont know anything about the background of black history in NFL/Quarterback position). If i would have to choose i would rather hang out with manning then with newton, i would rather hang out with alot other people then newton.
That said, from what ive seen i cant see him qualify as hateable. He just seems cocky on the surface.

That's the thing, everyone wants to turn it into a race thing but Newton acts like an arrogant child -win or loss- and Manning handles it like an adult.

I've heard just as bad coming from Favre and rodgers. Favre was called a gazillion names with the way he behaved himself in 2008 and even Rodgers who for the most part of his career has been a stand up guy has been accused ot the same thing Newton is accused of with this mocking of the media in regards to the lockout or just in general with the way he oftentimes looks and acts with his teammates on coach's on the sideline.

Look at Cutler, dude has been a pretty decent NFL QB his whole career but the guy constantly gets thrown under the bus because he looks and acts like he is totally disinterested in the entire thing.
 
I mean, 3 minutes of his life to take the hood off and answer some questions with grace and dignity like the leader and face of the NFL he is supposed to be is not too much to ask from someone in his position. In fact, it is what is expected and is how nearly every other professional handles their business after a defeat.

Not that it's a completely valid excuse, but he is just 26 years old. I've seen many a professional act unprofessionally and lose composure in moments where it's called for...and many of them were much older and experienced. He just has the unfortunate case of a nationwide spotlight being on him when he made his mistake.
 
Is the consensus really that he's black? That's just another unfortunate reality if true. I personally thought it was more about people hating cockiness.

Personally I loved watching him play this season, his confidence and skill truly mesh well.

I really hopes he can shake the super bowl jitters off next time and bring that to the end.
 
Was coverage of him so negative before the Superbowl? I don't recall it if so; I thought the sports media really liked him.

I figured it was latent cultural racism due to the more entertainment focused coverage of the SB.
 
Not that it's a completely valid excuse, but he is just 26 years old. I've seen many a professional act unprofessionally and lose composure in moments where it's called for...and many of them were much older and experienced. He just has the unfortunate case of a nationwide spotlight being on him when he made his mistake.

And we've seen many a young professional athlete handle themselves and maintain composure in moments of defeat. They should be rightly lauded just as Cam is being rightly criticized. If this is the/one of the faces of the league, it's not a good look.
 
Is the consensus really that he's black? That's just another unfortunate reality if true.

Personally I loved watching him play this season, his confidence and skill truly mesh well.

I reallt hopes he can shake the super bowl jitters off next time and bring that to the end.

He is the most exciting player that I have seen in years and his in-game antics make the game fun. He just needs to learn how to handle himself better in defeat like other elite, MVP players. I think (hope) he will learn from this game.
 
Is the consensus really that he's black? That's just another unfortunate reality if true.

Personally I loved watching him play this season, his confidence and skill truly mesh well.

I reallt hopes he can shake the super bowl jitters off next time and bring that to the end.

This is why I don't really participate in many threads about race. I actually agree with a lot of what is said by the black members of the forum, and really appreciate new insight on many things concerning race, but it's this shit that gets me hot. ABSOLUTELY cam is hated by many for being black. You can cut the hypocrisy with a knife, but not EVERY SINGLE PERSON who dislikes cam or can't stand cam is a racist. I do enjoy him for the most part, but I found his behavior last night ridiculous.
 
Dude is charmin ultra soft.

and people really thought the hate was race related. I'm dead, like Cam's overdramatic fall.
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How's racist Twitter doing today after the game? I would imagine a lot of happy racist white people still calling him a monkey or the n word and excited he lost?
 
This is why I don't really participate in many threads about race. I actually agree with a lot of what is said by the black members of the forum, and really appreciate new insight on many things concerning race, but it's this shit that gets me hot. ABSOLUTELY cam is hated by many for being black. You can cut the hypocrisy with a knife, but not EVERY SINGLE PERSON who dislikes cam or can't stand cam is a racist. I do enjoy him for the most part, but I found his behavior last night ridiculous.

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and people really thought the hate was race related. I'm dead, like Cam's overdramatic fall.
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I thought nothing of him doing that. He was obviously just gutted because he knew the game was pretty much over. I just hated the way he acted after the game. You don't see guys like Russell Wilson acting that way. It's very prima donna and was quite a turn off.
 
He'll learn from last night's display. Manning, Brady (multiple times for both), and Russell Wilson didn't act like that after losing the Super Bowl recently. It was childish. It's different from Marshawn Lynch who is a pretty much a dick to the media all the time. He's consistent at least. Newton was a sore loser and I doubt he reacts that way again.
 
He'll learn from last night's display. Manning, Brady (multiple times for both), and Russell Wilson didn't act like that after losing the Super Bowl recently. It was childish. It's different from Marshawn Lynch who is a pretty much a dick to the media all the time. He's consistent at least. Newton was a sore loser and I doubt he reacts that way again.

But this isn't the first time he's done it...
 
The Super Bowl showed us that Cam hasn't matured the way some people thought he had. He's the same sulky, pouty QB he was before this season. It's just that winning a shitload of games this year meant he had no reason to sulk and pout.

People thought he had grown up, but winning hides a multitutes of sins.
 
Not even Colin Kaepernick and Jameis Winston acted that way after they lost their big games. Colin was damn near crying and Jameis went into flat out delusion but Jameis is 21.

Cam was just being himself right guys?
 
The Super Bowl showed us that Cam hasn't matured the way some people thought he had. He's the same sulky, pouty QB he was before this season. It's just that winning a shitload of games this year meant he had no reason to sulk and pout.

People thought he had grown up, but winning hides a multitutes of sins.

cam was actually the first one to point that out
 
It doesn't bother me that someone is salty that they got their asses beat in one of the biggest games in their life. I'm not sure why we are holding football players to a higher standard.
 
Apparently the pressers were awkwardly set up next to each other and he walked out after hearing Chris Harris boasting loudly about how they won. I still don't like the way he acted, but it puts some perspective on why he just got up and walked off. He was being questioned, while being forced to listen to the other team.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...from-presser-after-hearing-chris-harris-boast

Like they're forced to sit and watch him dab and Superman. Don't like it? Play better.

He would've been the first to sit up there next to a Broncos player and gloat had he won.

It doesn't bother me that someone is salty that they got their asses beat in one of the biggest games in their life. I'm not sure why we are holding football players to a higher standard.

He's not just a football player. He's a team leader. He's held to a higher regard.
 
Apparently the pressers were awkwardly set up next to each other and he walked out after hearing Chris Harris boasting loudly about how they won. I still don't like the way he acted, but it puts some perspective on why he just got up and walked off. He was being questioned, while being forced to listen to the other team.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...from-presser-after-hearing-chris-harris-boast

Yeah not just being forced to listen to the other team but listening to them talk about how they stacked the box and dared Carolina to throw (ie asking cam newton to win the game with his arm.

Tough situation, but your the leader of the team and the face of the franchise, you need to handle yourself better in that situation or your going to invite these questions about your maturity and leadership.
 
It doesn't bother me that someone is salty that they got their asses beat in one of the biggest games in their life. I'm not sure why we are holding football players to a higher standard.

part of the job of an elite nfl qb. you get all the glory when you win. you're a god. when you lose, you tip your hat to the other team and take some blame. you don't walk out crying. just how it is.
 
Like they're forced to sit and watch him dab and Superman. Don't like it? Play better.

He would've been the first to sit up there next to a Broncos player and gloat had he won.



He's not just a football player. He's a team leader. He's held to a higher regard.

part of the job of an elite nfl qb. you get all the glory when you win. you're a god. when you lose, you tip your hat to the other team and take some blame. you don't walk out crying. just how it is.
Sorry but I don't agree.
 
And considering he's only 26 and only had one successful season, I don't see why he gets to act like that. It should be a humbling experience to lead a team to 18-2.
Yet some are using his age as an excuse for the behavior. He's 26, not 16. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a 26 year old professional athlete to act somewhat professional.

Nothing wrong with the celebrations IMO, but how he acted when he lost really shows the immaturity. That was more than just disappointment. Having fun when you win is one thing, being a pouty man child when you lose is another.

You really shouldn't have to tell a 26 year old that it's time to grow up and show a little maturity when he loses, especially when he's a professional athlete in such a huge international spotlight.
 
I thought nothing of him doing that. He was obviously just gutted because he knew the game was pretty much over. I just hated the way he acted after the game. You don't see guys like Russell Wilson acting that way. It's very prima donna and was quite a turn off.

Yeah Cam obviously has a deep desire to win but can't handle defeat in a mature way. He comes off like a man baby. Hopefully he grows up a bit when he watches himself on video. I want to cut him some slack though, the guy was getting MURDERED all game long. He got hit a ton and didn't have a chance.
 
It doesn't bother me that someone is salty that they got their asses beat in one of the biggest games in their life. I'm not sure why we are holding football players to a higher standard.

I agree, I just don't get why people care about how pro athletes should and should not act like.
 
Nearly every losing QB in the history of pro football disagrees with you.

When they act like Newton, they get grilled. And when they act like Newton after a history of being braggarts, they get hatred.
Ok but qbs are only human. It's not a big deal to me if he's salty after a lost and that's simply my two cents. I don't care about how people think a QB is supposed to behave.
 
Well I see a lot of people getting perhaps rightfully upset that their criticism is being labeled as racist but when I read any article online about Newton the comments section is just a cess pool of the worst kinds of racism. Are racists just more vocal or something?

How do you really quantify something like this other than to site examples and in this case there's plenty of evidence of a racial component to the amount of hate that he receives. Perhaps your specific dislike for him isn't based on that but why get outraged at the suggestion that may be a major component of the overall attention that he receives when it's difficult to find non-race based criticism of him outside of heavily moderated forums like this one?
 
part of the job of an elite nfl qb.
It is part of the job. Dealing with the media is part of the job. They are expected to represent the NFL and it's part of why they get paid millions. There's more to the job than playing the game.

Every company expects their employees to act with a reasonable amount of professionalism. Athletes are not an exception.
 
Apparently the pressers were awkwardly set up next to each other and he walked out after hearing Chris Harris boasting loudly about how they won. I still don't like the way he acted, but it puts some perspective on why he just got up and walked off. He was being questioned, while being forced to listen to the other team.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...from-presser-after-hearing-chris-harris-boast

i think this is still a case of if youre gonna showboat when you win, people are gonna hate you even more when you lose like a child.
 
I agree, I just don't get why people care about how pro athletes should and should not act like.

Because the way they act flavors how we think of them. Being cocky when winning and a bitch when losing leads to people hating Newton.

People can pretend it's all about a black QB doing well in a position that's traditionally held by white people, but that's bullshit. McNabb didn't have this kind of hatred. Neither does Russel Wilson.

Sure, some backward assholes will hate them for their skin. That's never going to change. But Newton catches loads of extra hate for being an immature shithead.
 
Because the way they act flavors how we think of them. Being cocky when winning and a bitch when losing leads to people hating Newton.

People can pretend it's all about a black QB doing well in a position that's traditionally held by white people, but that's bullshit. McNabb didn't have this kind of hatred. Neither does Russel Wilson.

Sure, some backward assholes will hate them for their skin. That's never going to change. But Newton catches loads of extra hate for being an immature shithead.
How is his behavior so far an example of being an "immature shithead" and why do you even care about it outside of him throwing the fucking ball on the field?
 
I agree, I just don't get why people care about how pro athletes should and should not act like.

What I saw during Cam's press conference was a guy who hadn't considered it even a remote possibility that he could lose. A complete lack of humility is going to turn people off.
 
How is his behavior so far an example of being an "immature shithead" and why do you even care about it outside of him throwing the fucking ball on the field?

Celebrating loudest in victory and crying loudest in defeat make him immature. And a shithead.

I care for the same reason anyone else does: I love football. I love the players. I even love some of the celebrations. Newton handing the ball to a kid is classy. Dabbing is funny. But if you're going to do that in the face of your opponent in a win, you need to be gracious in defeat.
 
How is his behavior so far an example of being an "immature shithead" and why do you even care about it outside of him throwing the fucking ball on the field?

1. His behavior is that of your average self-centered, self-entitled 26 year old. Not anything overly egregious like some make it out to be, just general immature and petulant self-service.

2. The problem with Cam Newton of all people behaving that way is the history of the thing. He committed a felony by stealing a laptop from another student. That got him suspended from the team but instead of seeing any criminal charges his then nascent celebrity athlete status let him walk with law enforcement taking a "no harm done" stance. He and his father then basically auctioned his services to Auburn and when it all came out they handled it like what was described in #1 above pretty much to a 'T', despite the fact that had anything more substantive come of it his teammates would take the brunt of the fallout while he walked into a fat NFL contract.

3. He then gets drafted first overall into the NFL, plays mediocre football for four years, puts it all together in year 5 and immediately starts pushing for GOAT recognition.

4. When he loses the Super Bowl he reverted back to #1 once again, basically immediately, making it pretty clear he never changed, he just lost a lot less for one season.

He's thoroughly encased in a pro athlete echo chamber like very few others and while he isn't going Johnny Manziel with the privilege he's certainly showing very little maturation or personal growth as a direct result of it. Which is sad because when a spoiled rich white kid like Manziel is given the world athletically on top of being born with a silver spoon in his mouth you just assume he's going to be shitty. When someone like Newton has the talent he has, the pedestal he's been presented, and given all the free passes he's gotten you'd like to think they'd realize how lucky they were to dodge those early fuck ups and grow from it.

Dismissing criticism of Cam Newton based entirely on the grounds of racism does a huge disservice to athletes who experienced powerful institutional racism. The worst Newton will generally face is social media antagonism. People before him were forced to change positions or not play, forced to take less money or not play, play in a different league or not play. Just because a few hillbillies throw out racist phrases or dog whistles on twitter doesn't mean people pointing out that Cam Newton is the same self-centered prick he's always been is an observation based on race.

All that said, it's just the NFL. Newton is nothing close to the self-centered, self-aggrandizing collection of human feces that Brett Favre was, at least not yet. He's somewhere in the Aaron Rogers/Tom Brady spectrum. Turns out when you heap fortune, fame, and adulation on top of an early to mid 20's kid's shoulders when his only real skill is throwing a pretty spiral you tend to wind up with someone with inherent psychological disconnects from what normal mature behavior entails. Shocking, I know.
 
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