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Why does Slipknot get such a bad rap?

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I hadnt really listened to them outside of the stuff played on the radio but recently I acquired their first cd (i think its their first) and was blown away at how great it sounded. Im usually not big into music with pointless screaming but to me this was totally unique. Ive never heard better mood music in my life, it really gets you pumped and its varied enough to where all the songs stand on their own. Its not just an hour or so of the same crap.
 
Meh, like i said it sounded great to me. I was hoping some of the music snobs here could enlighten me. I dont see how their gimmick has anything to do with the music either.
 
Are these the guys who dress up as angry clowns that rock (as oppsed to the angry clowns that rap, the ICP)? Cuz I stopped paying attention to popular music when that shit started to come up.
 
Because they wear all the calling cards that make nu-metal awful: boring, excessively down-tuned riffs, paint-by-numbers drum patterns, self-hating "introspective" lyrical nonsense, etc.
 
1) They're not nu metal.
2) I bet 90% of the people here never even listened to the 3rd album.
3) Vol. 3 is one of the most kick ass rock albums ever and this is coming from a very vocal Slipknot hater -- quite frankly, the first two were terrible.
4) The solos rock.
5)
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they get a TON of undeserved hate. gimmick or not, their first CD is VERY, VERY good for when it came out.
very awesome, in your face metal. they really went downhill after that, though in Vol. 3 they actually seem to want to get away from their "we're so hardcore" gimmick, and it actually works. Iowa, however, is one of the worst cds i've ever heard.

however, their self-titled CD is extremely good, and most people claim they're garbage because they saw one or two videos of them looking like morons.

a good band if you count their entire discography? no. but their first cd was really good, and their most recent is above average, and that has to count for something. at least you can't label them total garbage.
 
Listen to their last cd

Its GREAT

Ya, I just finished listening to Vol 3. Its freaking awesome. Maybe the rest of their work sucks but from what ive heard they dont deserve any of the crap they get. The whole mask/satan worshiping gimmick they use apparently has done more harm than good.
 
Besides, if you have an issue with their masks, then just listen to Stone Sour (which is pretty much Slipknot-lite, since it features more than half of Slipknot, including Corey Taylor himself). Taylor is a fantastic singer too. Haters wanna' hate, lovers wanna' love...I don't really want, none of the above...Slipknot pisses on you.
 
I like probably a handful of Slipknot songs...And I have two of their albums. But my problem with Slipknot is that a lot of their songs are seriously just noise. I know that's a broken statement, but that's what a lot of it is. No real rythm, no good beat, just a slew of guitars, drums, and screaming that doesn't find harmony anywhere.
 
Wow, I was going to come in here and just post that they simply suck ass but it looks like everyone else pretty much covered it.

Give yourselves a pat on the back everyone.
 
AlphaSnake said:
1) They're not nu metal.
2) I bet 90% of the people here never even listened to the 3rd album.
3) Vol. 3 is one of the most kick ass rock albums ever and this is coming from a very vocal Slipknot hater -- quite frankly, the first two were terrible.
4) The solos rock.
5)
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1) Yes they are.
2) You can exclude me from that 90%.
3) If you truly enjoyed it that much, Strapping Young Lad's "City" would like to have a word with you.
4) This I will grant you, somewhat. Joey Jordison did play drums for Satyricon, and Mick Thompson has demonstrable chops. The guys in this band have talent, but they continually squander it.
 
Nu-metal = Linkin Park, Disturbed, Trapt, etc. Slipknot doesn't fall into that genre. The style of music is completly different.
 
dem said:
Listen to their last cd

Its GREAT
My favourite album of last year. I've listened to those songs way too much and I still can't get enough of them. The reason for the hate is mainly becuase of their masks and shit, and I get that, they are stupid. Too bad they can't just say "to hell" (pun not intended) with their satan masks because their hardcore fanbase will say they sold out. Fuck, no bands can vary themselves in the slightest without being called sellouts these days. The masks are dumb, but I listen to the music, and the music is what I love.

Heavy Metal with a lead singer that actually SINGS!! Answered prayers I tells ya.

EDIT - I saw this because on my local rock station there's a show called "Midnight Metal" which plays nothing but metal, obviously. Too often though a song starts that has a really awesome intro, I get into the song, and then the singer comes in "ROAHAL RAFFA RAOAARA BARRA RARAYRARH RASHHARAHSHA RAEKL!!!!"
 
AlphaSnake said:
Besides, if you have an issue with their masks, then just listen to Stone Sour (which is pretty much Slipknot-lite, since it features more than half of Slipknot, including Corey Taylor himself). Taylor is a fantastic singer too. Haters wanna' hate, lovers wanna' love...I don't really want, none of the above...Slipknot pisses on you.


I saw Stone Sour once with Chevelle, and the place was flooded with Slipknot fans. YUCK... my nu-metal days were over a long time ago. Ughh... it's so... 2001..


Also what's up with all those Punk, emo singers with Girl hairdews, touching themselves on stage, like a group lets say My chemical romance.

I just don't get it.
 
LakeEarth said:
My favourite album of last year. I've listened to those songs way too much and I still can't get enough of them. The reason for the hate is mainly becuase of their masks and shit, and I get that, they are stupid. Too bad they can't just say "to hell" (pun not intended) with their satan masks because their hardcore fanbase will say they sold out. Fuck, no bands can vary themselves in the slightest without being called sellouts these days. The masks are dumb, but I listen to the music, and the music is what I love.

Heavy Metal with a lead singer that actually SINGS!! Answered prayers I tells ya.

No, people hate them cause they suck. Maybe to you they don't because you haven't listened to any Metal music played outside the US or radio. Do your self a favor and listen to bands like Children of Bodom, Ensiferum, Wintersun, Kamelot, Kalmah, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Demons & wizards and tell me if they're just as good.
 
Outlaw said:
No, people hate them cause they suck. Maybe to you they don't because you haven't listened to any Metal music played outside the US or radio. Do your self a favor and listen to bands like Children of Bodom, Ensiferum, Wintersun, Kamelot, Kalmah, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Demons & wizards and tell me if they're just as good.

Uh.. yeah..
Some people dont want to listen to fairy tale lyrics.
 
"Also what's up with all those Punk, emo singers with Girl hairdews, touching themselves on stage, like a group lets say My chemical romance.

I just don't get it."


Short answer: They aren't punk.
 
Most "ARRRGGGH I'M GONNA KILL EVERYONE IN THE FUCKIN' ROOM RIGHT NOW I SWEAR TO GOD ARHHH" kind of metal gets redundant. At least, to people like you and I. :D
 
It's easy to get the impression that clean, melodic vocals are a rarity in metal, but if you look hard enough, you'll find that there's more than enough melodic metal being made all over the place.

And it's not all "fairy tale" claptrap, either.
 
No, people hate them cause they suck. Maybe to you they don't because you haven't listened to any Metal music played outside the US or radio. Do your self a favor and listen to bands like Children of Bodom, Ensiferum, Wintersun, Kamelot, Kalmah, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Demons & wizards and tell me if they're just as good.

Those are some good choices except for demons and wizards. now granted demons and wizards is a collaboration between hansi from BG and schaffer from IE, but musically they sound much more like iced earth and iced earth sucks. very unimaginative repetitive metal
 
I don't care for that type of music, but the first was even alright, nothing horrible, just not my cup of tea. The second was god awful human shit wrapped in a gimmick lubed up with vaseline. What made me hate them was when a friend brought it over and he left with a broken cd. I haven't bothered with their 3rd although a bunch of people I respect said it's actually really good, but I've talked so much shit about them after their second cd that if someone caught me listening to it, I'd be eating crow for years. :P
 
Outlaw said:
No, people hate them cause they suck. Maybe to you they don't because you haven't listened to any Metal music played outside the US or radio. Do your self a favor and listen to bands like Children of Bodom, Ensiferum, Wintersun, Kamelot, Kalmah, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Demons & wizards and tell me if they're just as good.
I'll check em out. Won't stop me from liking Slipknot though.
Duality said:
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Look he fell down -- I slipped on some nuts!
They actually opened for Slipknot a couple of times :lol
 
AlphaSnake said:
2) I bet 90% of the people here never even listened to the 3rd album.
3) Vol. 3 is one of the most kick ass rock albums ever and this is coming from a very vocal Slipknot hater -- quite frankly, the first two were terrible.

Ding ding ding. That's probably completely true.

I hated the first CDs, but Vol. 3 is awesome. Chances are at least half of the people who say they suck ass haven't even listened to it.

Granted, I wouldn't call it one of the most kick ass rock albums ever, but it's great.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
i can hear a couple of slipknot songs here and there, but i couldn't stomach an entire album, that shit just gets redundant.
Ditto.

Also, the majority of their fans are really ugly bogan losers that smell bad. Worst fanbase since Metallica, imo.
 
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