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why doesn't Oz get the reputation it deserves

diffusionx

Gold Member
I tried watching it during the pandemic, couldn’t get into it. I don’t think the characters or storytelling are as good as Sopranos and as such it ends up feeling dated.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
I liked it a lot but the story lines got a little silly as well as how easily prisoners could kill each other and get away with it in last few seasons.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
Honestly I don't know. I've actually been re watching it lately and man it's still as good as when it aired. It's crazy re watching it all these years later after having seen what some of the folks who starred on it went on to do. Also I feel a lot of the social issues it touched on are sadly still as relevant now as they were then.
 

Bragr

Banned
It was good in the first few seasons but it went overboard and absurd. When they started showing scenes of child killing to be "extreme" they really needed to go and fuck themselves.
 
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Deleted member 1159

Unconfirmed Member
I still need to watch this and Sopranos. JK Simmons being in it alone makes me wonder why it’s taken me so damn long
 

dr_octagon

Banned
JK Simmons rapes dudes: the show.


Still need to watch it.
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Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
The problem with Oz is that its unrelenting nihilism and brutality gets really wearing after awhile.

I used to call it (semi-ironically) the "laugh with satan" hour! Because quite honestly the only way I could make it through the show was to emotionally distance myself from the bleakness of it all.

It gradually softens up a bit over its run, but the first couple of seasons are an unmitigated hell-ride of physical and emotional cruelty.

There are some great performances in there, but its a hard show to like.
 

AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Honestly, the fact that you can only watch it in DVD quality doesn't help at all.

The "in my day" crowd can go swivel, I grew up with VHS tapes too, but it's almost 2023 and this stuff looks terrible. The Wizard of Oz has had a 4K restoration. The Shield got the Blu Ray treatment. Get Oz rescanned and I'll give it another go.
 

ANDS

Banned
As mentioned previously, it's not a raw look at prison life. . .it is straight up genre fantasy where the only way to get negligent drunk drivers and hardened mafia bosses in the same area is with this contrived story. And the sub-stories, Jesus Christ: one guy turns down a pardon because he's worried about what the fellas on the INSIDE are saying about his commitment, one guy brutally, BRUTALLY assaults a guard to prove themselves, while another guard is BRUTALLY murdered after constant bullying of a guy (and this guy basically goes from Sheldon on Big Bang to Maximum Security Walter White) or the Boston flunkie whos retarded brother somehow also gets locked up in the same experimental prison wing. . .

It was all so fucking dopey. And bleak; like if you want to have fantastical stories to keep things interesting, that's fine - but there needs to be some light here. There isn't. Everything sucks, not just for the inmates, but for the people waiting (or who have stopped waiting) on the outside. At some point the bleakness (which is on THE KILLING Season 1 levels of emotional torture porn) just becomes comedic and you're laughing at the constant, CONSTANT, cavalcade of awfulness.

SOPRANOS was far more effective with its brutality because it felt believable and organic (compare the long, and painful road to the conclusion of the big event narrative thread in Season 2 of the Soprano's to the absolutely ridiculous storyline and resolution of the "reformed" mafia guy).

. . .for its time I bet it felt really fresh, but the brutality and cynicism was the point of OZ, not the stories.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Show has not lion or tinman, not even a real straw scarecrow. Hard to keep my interest with the OZ I grew up with.
 

Jennings

Member
Oz is a soap opera. An enjoyable soap opera, but a soap opera nonetheless. The only thing missing were aliens stealing babies.
 

Azurro

Banned
Didn't that guy run for senate? Maybe he doesn't get the reputation because he lost. :p

Disclaimer: not talking about politics, I just can't resist a silly pun. :D
 

Jennings

Member
Never watched this show, heard it was rape fest so I wasn’t all that interested
It is, it takes place in a male prison ward and serves viewers as both riveting melodrama AND a scared straight crime deterrent. It's not so bad once you get past the taste.
 
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