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Why hentai is ruining anime/manga

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Chrono

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The Edmonton Journal writes, "[the Internet Child Exploitation team in Edmonton] searched a house on Edmonton's south side on Feb. 10 and found 78 books containing thousands of pages of explicit pictures, commonly known as anime.... anime has been given a black eye from a perverted offshoot of the industry called Hentae[sic], where cartoon characters are bound and raped."

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6283
 

belgurdo

Banned
Hentai is the only reason I still give a shit about anime/manga :lol

But yeah, a pox on anyone who obsessively goes for that lolicon garbage. I'm a porn freak but even I won't go there

addendum: Thinking about it, I thought that virtual child porn was technically legal. Or is that in the US only?
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
A roomate of mine actually thought that anime and hentai were one in the same. When I brought up anime in a conversation(I believe at the time I was telling him what Cowboy Bebop is), he looked at me like I was the biggest pervert on the planet.
 
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They can Kiss my Ass

Hentai is awesome :)
 

belgurdo

Banned
Archaix said:
A roomate of mine actually thought that anime and hentai were one in the same. When I brought up anime in a conversation(I believe at the time I was telling him what Cowboy Bebop is), he looked at me like I was the biggest pervert on the planet.

I could see him thinking that in the early 90s (when after the whole "let's hide the fact that a lot of cartoons come from Japan" phase of the 80s companies were pushing anime as a "mature" alternative to child-oriented western fare, with stuff like Wicked City) but I can't understand why he'd think that nowadays. Unless the dude literally never turned on a television since 1999...
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
BuddyC said:
So can we say that pornography is ruining cinema too?

Nobody assumes you are going to watch porn when you say "I'm going to watch a movie."

Well, nobody assumes I am going to watch porn when I say that, maybe it's a different reaction for you.
 

aoi tsuki

Member
Archaix said:
Nobody assumes you are going to watch porn when you say "I'm going to watch a movie."

Well, nobody assumes I am going to watch porn when I say that, maybe it's a different reaction for you.
If we're going to go on assumptions, nobody assumes you get laid if you say you like video games.
 

Archaix

Drunky McMurder
aoi tsuki said:
If we're going to go on assumptions, nobody assumes you get laid if you say you like video games.

Well, they're right.

My point is that the article refers to hentai as anime. You'll never see an article refer to porn as "cinema".
 
I'm not sure what the fuss is about
Japan makes Hentai but its only when Hentai comes here to America that mosaics censorship are removed
 

Chrono

Banned
Anime is just getting popular here and people's perception of it as porn doesn't hurt it? Cinema is different. When people think of cinema they think of classics, oscars, documentaries, box office, whatever, etc... not porn.

And definitely not pedo porn. Did you people read the news story? Jeez.
 

aoi tsuki

Member
Okay, the linked newsbit puts it slightly in perspective:

The Edmonton Journal reports that a local man has been arrested for attempting to import 15 books containing sexually explicit manga featuring adults having sex with children, including depictions of "tied-up children and infants in diapers."
Infants in diapers?! What the fuck?

You Perv Mich is like 12 years old
And Lillith is like, what, 2000 years old, but she looks like she's ten. Of course, there's the other issue here in the US of finding animated characters attractive.

i have no problem with people getting off to whatever they get off with, as long as they don't violate their country's laws. The problem i have with it in the US is the blatant sexualization of teenagers in the media, along with the fact that said minors are developing faster than previous generations, yet finding them attractive is taboo.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
I've never heard of a hentai that involves infants in diapers. wtf
 

NLB2

Banned
belgurdo said:
Hentai is the only reason I still give a shit about anime/manga :lol

But yeah, a pox on anyone who obsessively goes for that lolicon garbage. I'm a porn freak but even I won't go there

addendum: Thinking about it, I thought that virtual child porn was technically legal. Or is that in the US only?
America's child pornography laws are sane, Canada's idiotic.
In the states, child pornography is made illegal not because the images are considered indecent or offensive, but because child pornography is in essence child rape. Therefore pornographic fiction or pornographic drawings involving minors are legal in the united states. In Canada child pornography is considered to be any pornography depicting explicit content involving a minor, so not only is child pornography as it is known in the states illegal, but so is lolicon, written fiction or drawn images including children. In fact, Nabokov's Lolita is considered pornography under Canadian law (although no one would enforce the law on that book).
 

Monk

Banned
NLB2 said:
America's child pornography laws are sane, Canada's idiotic.
In the states, child pornography is made illegal not because the images are considered indecent or offensive, but because child pornography is in essence child rape. Therefore pornographic fiction or pornographic drawings involving minors are legal in the united states. In Canada child pornography is considered to be any pornography depicting explicit content involving a minor, so not only is child pornography as it is known in the states illegal, but so is lolicon, written fiction or drawn images including children. In fact, Nabokov's Lolita is considered pornography under Canadian law (although no one would enforce the law on that book).

So you look at these lolicon with daiper babies NLB2?
 

bjork

Member
I remember seeing a link of anime that was imported into Canada... maybe it was on Smoking Gun?

Anyway, all the regular stuff got through and some hentai did also, but stuff like Midnight Sleazy Train was prohibited.

That said, I'd take Bret Hart over hentai any day.
 

NLB2

Banned
bjork said:
I remember seeing a link of anime that was imported into Canada... maybe it was on Smoking Gun?

Anyway, all the regular stuff got through and some hentai did also, but stuff like Midnight Sleazy Train was prohibited.

That said, I'd take Bret Hart over hentai any day.
But Bret Heart is dead...
 

Chrono

Banned
NLB2 said:
OK, so what're your guy's reasons for making hentai illegal when it hurts no one?

Personally I don't care if it's illegal or not, I just think it's giving anime/manga a bad image. I wouldn't shed any tears if it suddenly disappears though.

I was just watching the intro of Mahou Sensei Negima to get an idea of that anime. It's being subbed by some 5+ groups! so I thought hey, it must be something special. It took less then 2 minutes for me to realize how generic and horrible it is, but what irked me was the fan service.

Now I don't mind it if it's a show about one since I could just skip it, and I actually like fan service in Ghost in the Shell (because it’s not overused and the show itself is awesome without it), but in Mahou Sensei Negima the anime is about MIDDLE SCHOOLERS. WTF? And no, they don’t have bodies that make them look 20. The 5 minute preview was filled with shots of half naked 9 year olds. -__-

Keep in mind this is a show subbed by fansubber’s who are mostly in college. It’s not being watched by kids.

It’s just disturbing, that’s all. I don’t care if you like it , but I care that it is bringing down anime.
 

bjork

Member
FYI to the forum:

The only hentai you need is Sexfriend. It doesn't bullshit around with some halfassed story or demons or horse poeple or people shitting on each other or torture or rape or any of that filler.

It's just people getting down for the sake of getting down.

Recommended by bjork, who sells hentai at work and is a name you can trust! :D
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
bjork said:
FYI to the forum:

The only hentai you need is Sexfriend. It doesn't bullshit around with some halfassed story or demons or horse poeple or people shitting on each other or torture or rape or any of that filler.

It's just people getting down for the sake of getting down.

Recommended by bjork, who sells hentai at work and is a name you can trust! :D
Thanks, bjork. :D
 
Recommended by bjork, who constantly gets on IRC and bitches about the hispanics asking for Saint Seiya (IIRC, or some other crap) and "nerds" looking at the hentai stock.

The moral of the story is, don't trust Kevin Smith characters that look like James Hetfield. :p

Bible Black and Angel Blade is where it's at!
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Chrono said:
Personally I don't care if it's illegal or not, I just think it's giving anime/manga a bad image. I wouldn't shed any tears if it suddenly disappears though.

I was just watching the intro of Mahou Sensei Negima to get an idea of that anime. It's being subbed by some 5+ groups! so I thought hey, it must be something special. It took less then 2 minutes for me to realize how generic and horrible it is, but what irked me was the fan service.

Now I don't mind it if it's a show about one since I could just skip it, and I actually like fan service in Ghost in the Shell (because it’s not overused and the show itself is awesome without it), but in Mahou Sensei Negima the anime is about MIDDLE SCHOOLERS. WTF? And no, they don’t have bodies that make them look 20. The 5 minute preview was filled with shots of half naked 9 year olds. -__-

Keep in mind this is a show subbed by fansubber’s who are mostly in college. It’s not being watched by kids.

It’s just disturbing, that’s all. I don’t care if you like it , but I care that it is bringing down anime.


I don't know anyone who finds hentai to be synonymous with anime. Just like the porn industry has nothing to do with hollywood (except the occasional celebrity sex video), hentai has nothing to do with anime (unless it's hentai made around an anime)
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
NLB2 said:
My bad. Now why don't you try explaing why you think hentai should be illegal even though it doesn't hurt anyone.
I think you're confusing me with someone else, my friend.
 

Monk

Banned
Because watching kiddie porn is one step away from kiddie rape? Or would you prefer them to rape the kids first?
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Monk said:
Because watching kiddie porn is one step away from kiddie rape? Or would you prefer them to rape the kids first?
If they watch kiddie hentai, they obviously want to rape kids.
 

bjork

Member
The Take Out Bandit said:
The moral of the story is, don't trust Kevin Smith characters that look like James Hetfield. :p

Bible Black and Angel Blade is where it's at!

Dude, Bible Black has chicks sprouting dicks...
 
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