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[Heysoos]

Anecdotal evidence here:

I live in South Texas, which as many know is pretty much all left leaning. The area is largely made up of Hispanics of Mexican descent. The Catholic Hispanics, the majority, pretty much all lean left, while the other Christian denomination Hispanics lean mostly right. Not sure why the difference really, but yeah. Again, this is just what I've seen from my area.

 

[panama chief]

i voted democrat.....cause im not in the top 2% and never will be.

 

[midonnay]

Catholics have always leaned towards the left.....even in Australia.

They were a big part of trade unions and helping the poor.

Its just since single issues like Abortion has come to the forefront that they have started wavering.

 

[Rayis]

Yes Mr. Article writer, we vote Democrat totally because we want handouts, we're too stupid and uneducated to vote and we're lazy, totally not because Republicans have been batshit insane lately and spew hateful rhetoric in a constant basis

 

[Alebrije]

Only cubans vote for Republicans. Shame on them.

Well they used to have strong U.S. influence before Castro regimen, specially from GOP representatives ,

 

[TheKaeptain]

So all I got from this thread is Romney should have voted for Obama. Since he does that make him a race traitor?

 

[ronito]

So all I got from this thread is Romney should have voted for Obama. Since he does that make him a race traitor?

what are you talking about? He is white and delightsome.

 

[Slayven]

The core Republican pary is dying and don't have the numbers to replace them.

 

[gdt]

I thought for sure this thread was gonna be about the video below:

“They come from Mexico, which is a socialist country. They want big government intervention, they want big government goodies. Now they want open borders — make no mistake — because they have family and friends that they want to come up and benefit from the plunder of the United States just as they’ve been able to do.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5jbX8KPTM

This is just fucked up.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I thought for sure this thread was gonna be about the video below:

“They come from Mexico, which is a socialist country. They want big government intervention, they want big government goodies. Now they want open borders — make no mistake — because they have family and friends that they want to come up and benefit from the plunder of the United States just as they’ve been able to do.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5jbX8KPTM

This is the stupidest shit anybody has said about my country of origin, and that includes the time they mistook me for an Afghan and wanted me out of the country.

 

[johnsmith]

what are you talking about? He is white and delightsome.

Romney's dad was a Mexican (of white, mormon descent).

 

[mavs]

Romney didn't "lose" Asian-American votes either. He never had them. API's voted overwhelmingly Democratic.

Congrats, you just disproved the OP's thesis that Democratic votes are always and everywhere a result of ethnic poverty.

 

[ronito]

Romney's dad was a Mexican (of white, mormon descent).

It's a mormon joke.

Mormon belief is that God smote the bad people with a curse of dark skin to separate the bad people from the white and delightsome righteous people.

 

[NervousXtian]

Dude lost me at the end.

Everyone knew almost all of this, except for stupid racist people who don't know anything about Hispanics to begin with.

It was never just about immigration.

 

[Jintor]

Was nodding my head until suddenly "ONLY WAY FOR DEMOCRATS TO WIN IS TO KEEP THE HISPANICS DOWN"

what

the

fuck

 

[Kite]

Romney didn't "lose" Asian-American votes either. He never had them. API's voted overwhelmingly Democratic.

Conservatives are going all sorts of directions to explain why they lost.

I've always been a bit curious as to why. We can be pretty religious and we are relatively well off compared to the other minority groups so one might think that we'd be fodder for the Republican's tale of screw the poor we got ours! And yet I hear that Obama got like 70+% of the API vote, yay we are now almost the margin of error decider!

IMO the reason is that even though the 2nd and 3rd generation asian-americans may we well off, we still remember our parents and grandparents who came over poor and worked their asses off for us. We don't want them thrown onto the streets and have to rely on the "mercy" of the emergency room for their healthcare. Speaking of which, asians tend to be rather big on the whole taking care of one's elderly parents and family. Obamacare is a natural extension of this imo. Plus all the not-so-subtle racist immigration laws and voter suppression towards hispanics resonated with my family and friends, like always the asians are ignored in this election but it could very easily have been us having our rights trampled. I know the republicans like to trot us out as the "model minority" every once in a while but I don't think they like us much either.

These reasons and my mostly socially liberal outlook is why Obama got this chinese-american-texan's vote.. for all the good it did. At least I added to his popular vote win~

 

[johnsmith]

It's a mormon joke.

Mormon belief is that God smote the bad people with a curse of dark skin to separate the bad people from the white and delightsome righteous people.

Yeah, I live in Utah, so I knew the dark skin = evil thing, never heard the word delightsome before though. And I've never heard Mormons joke about that, seems like a touchy subject with my Mormon friends.

 

[WillyFive]

It's articles like these that explain why Hispanics are not Republicans, because Republicans are so hilariously racist that they can't even realize themselves doing it while they write about it.

 

[Aylinato]

Romney's dad was a Mexican (of white, mormon descent).

his dad was born in Mexico, but thats because his family fled the US for religious persecution, but then came back to the US during the war.

 

[johnsmith]

his dad was born in Mexico, but thats because his family fled the US for religious persecution, but then came back to the US during the war.

More like he came back to the US for that sweet sweet welfare.

 

[Drakeon]

It's a mormon joke.

Mormon belief is that God smote the bad people with a curse of dark skin to separate the bad people from the white and delightsome righteous people.

Is delightsome actually the wording they used? Because thats not a word.

 

[ripastraea]

Super-Economy
Kurdish-Swedish perspectives on the American Economy.

decided to scroll up, now i'm embarrassed

 

[thetrin]

I've always been a bit curious as to why. We can be pretty religious and we are relatively well off compared to the other minority groups so one might think that we'd be fodder for the Republican's tale of screw the poor we got ours! And yet I hear that Obama got like 70+% of the API vote, yay we are now almost the margin of error decider!

IMO the reason is that even though the 2nd and 3rd generation asian-americans may we well off, we still remember our parents and grandparents who came over poor and worked their asses off for us. We don't want them thrown onto the streets and have to rely on the "mercy" of the emergency room for their healthcare. Speaking of which, asians tend to be rather big on the whole taking care of one's elderly parents and family. Obamacare is a natural extension of this imo. Plus all the not-so-subtle racist immigration laws and voter suppression towards hispanics resonated with my family and friends, like always the asians are ignored in this election but it could very easily have been us having our rights trampled. I know the republicans like to trot us out as the "model minority" every once in a while but I don't think they like us much either.

These reasons and my mostly socially liberal outlook is why Obama got this chinese-american-texan's vote.. for all the good it did. At least I added to his popular vote win~

I'm Indian, and my whole family, even those still in India, overwhelmingly voted (or desired to vote) democratic. For us, it's always been important that we make life easier for our kids than it was for us. We want them to have better education, better opportunities, and a better safety net than was afforded to us. For the younger people in the family, it's always been about making sure our parents and grandparents receive the healthcare they need, and the support they would not be afforded otherwise, despite being rather fiscally conservative.

 

[Veezy]

Was nodding my head until suddenly "ONLY WAY FOR DEMOCRATS TO WIN IS TO KEEP THE HISPANICS DOWN"

what

the

fuck

What that line means is that they are increasing a voting block that wants these government benefits. This same group, while increasing in population, is not moving up the fiscal ladder rapidly. So, while Dems will keep the group they've got to be careful that the systems they are putting in place are both effective and sustainable. Otherwise, they'll lose the pull because they're shit just doesn't work.

Keeping them down will cause a problem in the long term.

 

[ronito]

Is delightsome actually the wording they used? Because thats not a word.

Here it is verbatim

2 Nephi 5:21

And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.

 

[toon_link]

Anecdotal evidence here:

I live in South Texas, which as many know is pretty much all left leaning. The area is largely made up of Hispanics of Mexican descent. The Catholic Hispanics, the majority, pretty much all lean left, while the other Christian denomination Hispanics lean mostly right. Not sure why the difference really, but yeah. Again, this is just what I've seen from my area.

Really? What part of South Texas are you from? I live near McAllen

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

There is nothing strange about this. Anglo-Americans are culturally probably the most pro-capitalist group on the planet. It is not a coincidence that 8 of the 10 countries with the highest ranking in Economic Freedom Index are Anglo or former British colonies.

Inheritors of the world's primary superpower during the industrial revolution are rich, have similar values. News at 11.

Also, the EFI is total, unadulterated, rich, creamy, arbitrarily weighted bullshit straight from the arse of the Cato Institute. It's the right wing equivalent of the Happiness Index.

There is no corresponding ethos of individualism, self-reliance, and distrust of government in Latin America. All those countries are all left-leaning, with large segments of the population idolizing Che Guevara and Hugo Chavez. Does Charles Krauthammer think Mexican voters in Mexico have supported the populist left for generations because of GOP opposition to illegal immigration? :lol

Latinos trust the government? On what planet? Holy shit! I could write a whole book on why that's not true.

He's right on the individualism thing. That's a genuine point of cultural difference.

 

[Davidion]

My thesis on the ethnic vote is this: the brand of near paranoid levels of bootstrap individualism and anti-government freedom that the GOP now espouses is a completely alien concept to nearly every major civilization outside of the US. It's not that Hispanics are somehow particularly prone to being democrats, it's that no other ethnic bloc is likely to collectively share the same philosophies as the modern day GOP.

From an Asian perspective, yes, we tend to have an ingrained sense of drive towards accomplishment and hard work. However, there is and has always been a sense of communal support and respect towards elders, if not just others in your community. Most other ethnic communities shares some similar strands of mutual respect that's completely non-existent in the current mainstream GOP philosophy. The idea that government should axiomatically shrink and naturally take a back seat to individualistic will is pretty much unheard of. This doesn't even begin to extend into the issues of immigration policies. As for religion, while there are plenty of Asian Christians, there's little to no evidence that their religious faith is manifested in anywhere near as extreme and monotone a way as those commonly associated with the GOP.

I'm not sure republicans actually understand that the "stereotypes" that they're a party of rich, white assholes is actually the exact view held by many, if not most, ethnic groups; and that there's little to nothing in their philosophy to make them think otherwise.

 

[Darknight]

I thought for sure this thread was gonna be about the video below:

“They come from Mexico, which is a socialist country. They want big government intervention, they want big government goodies. Now they want open borders — make no mistake — because they have family and friends that they want to come up and benefit from the plunder of the United States just as they’ve been able to do.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5jbX8KPTM

This shit makes me rage . WTF is this psycho talking about? I hate when these people blatantly lie and take shit out of their ass like that.

 

[gutter_trash]

you can't expect people to vote for a party that poops on them

 

[Bento]

I'm sure the future of the Republican party is a complicated one but they REALLY should have been able to field a stronger candidate than Mitt Romney. Should at least allow a good/decent candidate to fail before they go full doom and gloom imo.

However I'm not sure this article is "superb", seems to be filled with quite a lot of near post-election hysteria and is being xenophobic in general.

 

[LosDaddie]

This was a good read.

The author tries to explain why Hispanics vote Dem, yet somehow displays the arrogance & ignorance that pushes Hispanics to the Left.

Good job, Repub. Good job.

 

[Ikael]

"Socialism is just some Catholic ideas going into a rampage" - Otto Von Bismark.

In that quote, as politically incorrect as it is (both for socialists and catholics) you can gain quite a lot of insight regarding hispanic voting preferences (and not only in the US).

 

[Hari Seldon]

Catholic immigrants have historically been democrat. Italian-Americans as well.

Repubs need to dominate a Catholic if they want the Hispanic vote. GWB was on the right track with his "compassionate conservatism". Not the typical protestant "I got mine, so fuck you" attitude.

 

[Dash27]

I dont mind outreach but I hate that it's based on gender, ethnicity or religion. Just talk to people. I think Ramesh Ponnuru has a good read on that. I think Jindal had something similar to say:

“The ordinary person does not see himself as a great innovator. He, or she, is trying to make a living and support or maybe start a family. A conservative reform of our health-care system and tax code, among other institutions, might help with these goals. About this person, however, Republicans have had little to say.”

Talking to the guy or girl out there just making a living, whoever they are.

 

[Ikael]

Socialism is, in essence, Catholicism sans God (or anti clerical, depending on which version of socialism we are talking about). Usure is inmoral, the poor should be protected, Jews are kinda suspicious, we are all a big family, yadda, yadda. As pious as ever, but with God removed from the equation.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Gutierrez Introduces GOP to Hispanic Voters, Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Q_-sUk5O0&feature=youtu.be

 

[johnsmith]

Catholic immigrants have historically been democrat. Italian-Americans as well.

Repubs need to dominate a Catholic if they want the Hispanic vote. GWB was on the right track with his "compassionate conservatism". Not the typical protestant "I got mine, so fuck you" attitude.

Paul Ryan was Catholic, that didn't really help.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Paul Ryan was Catholic, that didn't really help.

Yeah a non asshole catholic. And lol I just noticed my freudian slip.

 

[Des0lar]

Is there actually any group of immigrants that vote in favor of the Republicans? When most of (basically all) immigrants come from countries that have socialised healthcare, big governments etc... it's hard for me to imagine there are people voting against that.

 

[spandexmonkey]

As a hispanic from south Texas, most of us grew up with poor parents/families. So that meant public schools, assistance programs, then into either military or college with financial aid. Those that didn't usually went trade (union) or public sector (police/fire/city works etc). Most of my friends/family have a positive view of the government because of that (excluding typical dislike of border patrol/police).

 

[Canuck76]

This is the stupidest shit anybody has said about my country of origin, and that includes the time they mistook me for an Afghan and wanted me out of the country.

lol what the hell

Pretty interesting article. I feel like you can do a lot with stats these days, i don't really take this guys word on everything but he has some interesting theories/conclusions

 

[someday]

To be honest, I found this interesting. I really don't have a lot of Mexicans or Mexican-Americans in my life so I guess I always heard the "natural Republican" stuff and let it go. The only Mexican-American that I was close to was an older woman and hardcore Republican and Catholic, against taxes, women making more money, and feminism. Her husband was a liberal. He was born in Mexico and moved here later; she was born in California and at 50 was trying to learn Spanish. It's nice to know that she was the exception and not the rule.

 

[rkn]

Knowing that the election was over, California also did not come out in crazy numbers like usual because when they know the election is over, they don't come out to vote

no wonder my ballot only had the presidential election on it.

 

[Regulus Tera]

lol what the hell

Thankfully, it was just one man out of the hundreds I've met since moving to Houston to work on my degree. Still, pretty dumb.