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Wii U Community Thread
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IlSignorCornetto
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announced but not on wiiu...
i don't know...gamestop italy is not reliable
sorry for the bad english XD
Maybe I know you...
Well, between Codemaster CEO speech and Gamestop listing, I think that it will be ported also to the Wii U.
But I totally disagree with this secrecy, if secrecy is.
BTW, what do you think about Nooo and TwoTribes senteces of yesterday?
https://twitter.com/Nnooo_Nic
Today we just got some good news moving us forward in a Wii U direction.
https://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames
Man!! Wii U's got us excited today! Great to be a developer in this day and age! Yeah, we're Nintendo fanboys! Guilty as charged
What could have happened?
Canis lupus
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Metroid Prime 4!
A lot of smaller devs seem happy with the Wii U. I attribute it to these things:
1. The WiiU eshop/digital/online strategy is good. Devs are already much happier with the 3DS e-shop than with the Wii or DS, and WiiU should look to further that
2. Nintendo reached out to them
3. WiiU is pretty easy to work with
4. These devs are not working on "hardcore AAA" FPS games they think will only sell on the 360/PS3.
5. The emphasis in WiiU is more on fun games than super tech and high production, which works well for smaller companies
Yeah, me too I saw a lot of positive feedbacks (and also a good amount onf announcements) under the "Eshop" or DD category...let's see what they'll be able to offer in terms of infrastructure also!
I was especially curious about yesterday's feedbacks from those 2 developers because of their contemporary tweets!
MadeInBeats
Banned
I just want it so the creativity and artistry in good developers is allowed to romp freely with no barriers. Something's got them excited though.
Didn't sleep too well lastnight. I was awoken at 3am by a rapping on the door. It was USCs shadow, said he's sick of the arguments and he's left for good this time
http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/scri...erful_than_360_and_ps3_scribblenauts_dev.html
Nothing we didn't already know, except maybe nauts started life on Wii?
Damn it, I only wanted it to play not fun games
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
lostinblue
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I really think we shouldn't put things like that; for reasons that were discussed previously.So yeah, don't worry about 900 GFLOPs, the ability to bypass APIs will effectively practically make it 1.5 TFLOPS, not literally speaking. It just needs more harder effort to make it happen
It's never gonna surpass it's theoretical maximum, which isn't 1.5 TFlops.
Mithos
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Tomb Raider, Crysis 3, Dishonored, Dead Space 3, Resident Evil 6, Bioshock: Infinite, you know 3rd party multiplatform titles.
Yes to all.So, just a few questions about the WiiU... just respond with yes or no.
-It is more powerful than PS360
-It can run CryEngine3 and UE4, but Epic won't port their engine themselves
-More games are coming, we just need to wait
-It could handle PS4/720 games (if they aren't super powerful) but they won't look as good
-Overall, it is a capable machine, if a little underwhelming
So?
Basically, an open system like a PC needs brute force to make a game run beautifully (hence the TFLOPS needed) while a closed system is more efficient and optimized so it doesn't need as much brute force (hence the rumors of 576 Gflops)He doesn't say it in your face, you have to listen his words carefully
Snippet from John Carmack:
"it is unhappily true that we have these consoles here running at sixty frames per second, and we could have these massively more powerful PC systems that struggle sometimes to hold the same framerate because of unnecessary overheads. If we were programming that hardware directly on the metal the same way we do consoles, it would be significantly more powerful."
And just to put that into perspective here's a twitter post of one example: https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/30655938016837632
So yeah, don't worry about 900 GFLOPs, the ability to bypass APIs will effectively practically make it 1.5 TFLOPS, not literally speaking. It just needs more harder effort to make it happen
About drivers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapCuhAs1nA&feature=player_detailpage#t=157s
So nobody brings any speculation up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxFdsEtr-TY&feature=player_detailpage#t=261s
If IDTech5 can make it why UE4 can't
Even USB 2.0 has a faster data transfer rate than most blu-ray drives so it's fast enough for me.
All first party franchises. (I need to see them in HD, kinda like how the N64 introduced the franchises to 3D gaming)
Final fantasy (a main numbered one like XV)
Tomb Raider
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
From Nintendo's usual IP's I'd like to see Metroid Prime 4 more than anything else. I'd like to see a new F-Zero game, and I'd like to see a Smash Bros. game with an actually enjoyable single player campaign.
From everybody else, I'd like to see games I can't get on PC, or Sony/Microsoft's next generation systems.
PuppetSlave
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It could be official cardboard!
(19.99$ with Mario, Zelda and Metroid patterns to choose from.)
Disorientator
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Bumped into a document from Yuanta Financial Holdings (Investment Consulting), dated July 11, 2012, that assumes WiiU will be released during the "third-quarter" of the year. (calendar or fiscal year?)
I can't read Chinese so blame Google Translate if something got lost in translation.
Translation:
Even if the translation is correct, it could mean absolutely nothing, but since it's WiiU-related I guess anything goes.
(Searched thread for "Yuanta", and besides a post by Rösti last month about another document from the same firm, nothing came up so sorry if old)
I can't read Chinese so blame Google Translate if something got lost in translation.
Translation:
Even if the translation is correct, it could mean absolutely nothing, but since it's WiiU-related I guess anything goes.
(Searched thread for "Yuanta", and besides a post by Rösti last month about another document from the same firm, nothing came up so sorry if old)
Ports: GTA 5, Metal Gear games (MGS5, MGR:R), Watch Dogs
Unannounced games: Thief 4, BG&E2, Dead Rising 3, No More Heroes 3, Half Life ep.3
Nintendo: New Legend of Zelda (like what they did with New SMB), 2.5D Metroid, Wave Race, Star Fox shooter
I don't actually expect any of this, but it would be nice.
Same here, although I'd like them to abandon the "Prime" franchise. I just think that whole deal needs to be done. Plus, they were introducing elements into the last game I'd rather not carry over. I'd like to see a Prime-type design with vastly more technical and skill-based play mechanics to the exploration, traversal and gameplay.
As for Smash, yeah I agree there too, SP needs to be vastly improved and maybe gel some possible MP components into it "Challenger is approaching". Smash should look great though and I'm sure the minds behind SC can do the game a lot of justice as a pure technical fighter with balance.
You don't have to be making any motion to drop a controller. Sometimes it can just slip and fall from your hands.
Bamstrokher
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That sounds delicious. But I would put a little olive oil on it, with salt and pepper, and do it in the oven on 400 for about fifteen minutes.
Spieler Eins
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At the fall conference, I hope for Metal Gear Rising. As I really do not give a flying about most other 3rd party offerings from the big publishers at this point and alongside P-100 it might secure most of Platinums games for the future.
Also, Nintendo surely must have felt the backlash from the E3, despite Reggie acting delusional in public, so I'm hoping Iwata will present smaller-scale Nintendo games there (sales-wise).
Yeah, extra care needs to be taken with the GamePad. Sometimes I'll "forcefully press" my Wiimote into the floor when I'm gaming online out of... frustration, so we better be sure we're nice to the screened controller.
No dropping it while using the porn curtains, now!
Bamstrokher
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Sometimes I'll forcefully press my Wiimote in between the couch cushions because it feels good.
Cosmonaut X
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JoshuaJSlone
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Doubles as a dock for Goa'uld vessels.Is this new?
Just Dance 4 Trailer confirms Wii U stand.
http://www.game-rumble.com/2012/07/just-dance-4-trailer-confirms-wii-u-stand.html
Shin Johnpv
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B3D is an extremely pale shadow of it's former self.
Bamstrokher
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If I told you that I might get banned.
Cosmonaut X
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GiantEnemyGoomba
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Just a quick question for BG or anyone else that may have infos. How likely is it that the other two next gen consoles will run at 2Tflops or better? I know the target was at 1.8, but do you think they might give in, if only a little bit, to Epic's demands?
bgassassin
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Unpleasant? You should be happy Wii U wouldn't be stuck with a soon to be outdated port.
Higher theoretical transfer rate than most. The actual rate is a little over half.
I know, but looking at this from Nintendo's perspective they didn't add a strap to the Wiimote till people started slinging them into their TVs. I don't see Nintendo adding that cost due to the motion used for the pad.
At least there are still some over there that you can learn something from.
I'd be shocked if they did. I think MS conceded, but more on the memory side (again). I don't see Sony budging at all.
Trevelyan9999
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That's interesting that they actually are getting frustrated by the low power rumors, when all these "anonymous" developers are seemingly excited as hell to share their difficulties with everyone. Nice to hear something different.
Nah, I'm just saying that I think there's no way it'll happen. One 3.0 port would be fine, but I don't see Nintendo changing it.
Of course, they have made last-minute hardware changes before (Wiimote speaker?) so what the hell do I know.
JoshuaJSlone
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The strap was always there, but they made the strings more durable and added the condom.
MadeInBeats
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You not seen the 7 page head fuck erupted on Gaming? lol, only went away for lunch and BAM, a 7 pager is born. It's madness isn't it. Think it comes in cycles where you try and correct 'the internet' before you realise you're never going to win. There's more people in this world who sadly find more solace in being negative and bitter than being, well, not.
bgassassin
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All I needed was for Iwata to talk about cost in relation to the CPU to give up that idea.
Ok. I couldn't remember the correction they made at the time.
Another quick question on the UE4 stuff.
So, Epic showed a picture of that house using UE3 and then another shot using UE4. Are engines "portable" in a way that lets say the game could be made with UE4 but then ported to UE3?
Simply asking - could future UE4 games be ported to UE3 and be released on Wii-U? I know they said UE4 would work on Wii-U, but could they actually get a better product out of it if it was on UE3?
So, Epic showed a picture of that house using UE3 and then another shot using UE4. Are engines "portable" in a way that lets say the game could be made with UE4 but then ported to UE3?
Simply asking - could future UE4 games be ported to UE3 and be released on Wii-U? I know they said UE4 would work on Wii-U, but could they actually get a better product out of it if it was on UE3?
Quick question about Assassin's Creed 3: There's a big difference in colors between the WiiU and PS3 version that Ubisoft showed. Does anyone know what causes this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__p5Nv1P4jw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__p5Nv1P4jw
Well, it's off screen footage for starters. PS3 games tend to look less saturated compared to 360 counterparts, which have had some crush in my experience. Probably just slight differences between amd and nvidia outputs.
bgassassin
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Like Van Owen said it's off screen so it's probably due to the lighting in the background where they are playing the demo. Here are two gifs I made of the same section of the Bird demo.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Off-screen is the usual culprit. Sometimes games do look a bit different in colour tones between platforms. A lot of UE3 games look noticeably more washed out on the PS3 than they do on the 360.
Got a real laugh attack from that pic.
Watching SG-1 all over again finally some proper quality on DVD I bought some time ago, and in 4-th season right now
Apophis2036
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How many more times powerful are PS3 and 360 than the original Wii, i read 20 times in one of the WUST's, is that true ?.
If so how do you get to those numbers.
Cheers.
If so how do you get to those numbers.
Cheers.
I still don't think this is going to be a problem. USB 2.0 shouldn't be a problem in most gameplay scenarios since the interface is already faster than the optical media the system will use. Would USB 3.0 be nice, sure, but at the end of the day it is an extra expense that will probably be of limited use.
Yeah I did some searching on Havok and didn't see anything that gave much credence to GPU accelerated physics with it. But some might choose to not use Havok and therefore use the GPU for physics if Havok is totally dependent on the CPU.
I was wondering if you'd catch that.
Wii U GPU possibly more capable than a 4870 confirmed!
I think some of this assumed that havok would use the GPU for acceleration because it's what they've traditionally done (dated 2006)
http://www.havok.com/news-and-press/releases/havok-accelerates-next-generation-games-e3
However, I believe havok was bought by Intel, and since then gpgpu acceleration hasn't really seemed to have progressed. So it seems they're focusing more on CPU acceleration instead...
Sorry USC-fan, but I think we should assume an underclock rather than overclock. Nintendo has a history of underclocking to tech geeks expectations. It makes sense from their perspective since it will increase reliability (less heat), but also allow for higher yields, since they don't need to cherry pick the best silicone that runs well at higher speeds. It will also run cooler, allowing for a quieter system, which they stated they wanted.
Aside from tech-heads like us, who out there has an external eSATA drive. Hell the majority of people don't even know what eSATA is.
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