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[WhiteWaterM00se]

With all the news yesterday good and bad will the Launch of Nintendo Switch 2 backlash cause all of gaming to crash?

Could Xbox, Sony and Valve see blowback as well?

Could this be how the world sees the rise of piracy like in China?

This feels like something has shifted with the consumer and tech. I don’t think it will only be isolated to Nintendo.

What do you think? Serious question.

 

[Toots]

Gaming market crash i don't know but it will usher in WWIII for sure

 

[Spukc]

 

[Guilty_AI]

I think what will happen is that nintendo rising prices will make everyone rise their prices too. Except other gaming companies don't have the same brand/ip power as Nintendo, so they will get some reality checks. This and GTA 6 also probably costing at least $80 can very well lead to an industry crash, even if these launches are successful.

 

[SweetTooth]

Gaming crash because of Nintendo? LMAO

Yeah, 1996 gaming crashed because N64 failed.
2004 gaming Crashed because Gamecibe failed.
2012? Gaming crashed because WiiU failed..

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Gaming market crash i don't know but it will usher in WWIII for sure

That could be on the horizon anyway.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Gaming market crash i don't know but it will usher in WWIII for sure

people love talking about WWIII happening when what's really happening is Cold War 2

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Gaming crash because of Nintendo? LMAO

Well, if this price increase in successful, you have to assume other companies will follow the same strategy. If GTA vi is really $100, COD will follow quickly behind. Feels like consumers and tech are coming to odds.

 

[Astray]

I don't think a crash would happen, more of a correction.

We are seeing far more supply of games than ever before, and pricing is actually falling as a result across the board (look at how much you can save on a game by waiting a few months, the environment of gaming is largely deflationary, not inflationary).

With that said, while I think both will sell a ton, GTA6 and Switch 2 won't be enough to stave off this market correction happening to 3P devs and publishers.

 

[popeutlal]

Steam will stop existing if Switch 2 bombs and GTA 6 is $100?

 

[Toots]

people love talking about WWIII happening when what's really happening is Cold War 2

You think the war will stay cold with those game prices ?

On a serious note tho, it is not cold war II but the fall of the US empire that we are witnessing.

 

[SweetTooth]

Well, if this price increase in successful, you have to assume other companies will follow the same strategy. If GTA vi is really $100, COD will follow quickly behind. Feels like consumers and tech are coming to odds.

Why are everyone projecting Nintendo's practices on everyone?

Relax you will be fine, Nintendo practices only bites Nintendo since 1984, qnd they are know to be the most anti consumer and the worst for 3P publishers.

 

[dragonyeuw]

I don't know about crash, but the companies who have the tentpole IPs will be looking very intently at how the market reacts to $80. There's been tons of pushback here and elsewhere but it all becomes an echo chamber. For all we know Mario Kart may end pushing 50 million at $80/90, so those who can get away with it absolutely will try to do so.

 

[Guilty_AI]

You think the war will stay cold with those game prices ?

On a serious note tho, it is not cold war II but the fall of the US empire that we are witnessing.

Nah. If i were to compare to roman history (since it's what people love doing), the circumstances are a lot more similar with the fall of the Roman republic, leading to the establishment of the Roman Empire.

But i digress, regardless of what we call it, we don't have the correct conditions for total war like we've witnessed with WW1 and 2.

 

[lifa-cobex]

I wouldn't go that far.

But I will say that gaming for the past six odd years has certainly been put in the background for my entertainment.
You get the odd dimond in the rough game wise but consoles and the vast majority of games hasn't sparked any interest out of me.

Xbox don't seem to be on the raydar anymore.
PS5pro is far too expensive imo and I still havn't found a reason to purchase a standerd PS5.
Now Nintendo wan't to put a subscription button on my controller. I like a hand full of nintendo games but the consoles always end up collecting dust after a couple of months.

Thank fuck for the Steam Deck i guess.

 

[Fahdis]

Why are all of you so poor? I just made a 5090 Sandwich with a Steam Deck OLED in between. Peasants.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Steam will stop existing if Switch 2 bombs and GTA 6 is $100?

Will you see a rise of piracy like in China? Which is far higher than in United States or Europe.

 

[Toots]

Nah. If i were to compare to roman history (since it's what people love doing), the circumstances are a lot more similar with the fall of the Roman republic, leading to the establishment of the Roman Empire.

But i digress, regardless of what we call it, we don't have the correct conditions for total war like we've witnessed with WW1 and 2.

And who is Lucretia in your analogy ?

 

[Chukhopops]

It won't crash but you can be sure the decision to raise prices across the board has already been taken by the main actors.

I wanted to not preorder but there's no way I'm skipping Mario Kart Horizon, Metroid and Hyrule Warriors... sorry!

 

[StueyDuck]

Nope.

the announcement was disappointing and has turned many off from a day 1 purchase.

But they, myself included, will still get the Switch 2 some day down the line when it's cheaper and more appealing.

The problem with social media and media in general is that it makes everything seem as either the greatest thing on planet Earth or the worst thing ever.

The truth is that the Switch 2 is fine, It's very iterative in a boring way, it's not really super exciting, and people will end up buying one whether it's at launch or later.

 

[Guilty_AI]

And who is Lucretia in your analogy ?

That's pre-republic. But anyway, point is the conditions for total war aren't here. The world couldn't go into total war mode even if it wanted to.

 

[Schmendrick]

The PC/Sony/MS crowd barely remembers that Nintendo exists nowadays outside of certain "big" announcements. The only thing Nintendo has the power to crash is their own market....and with how many Handhelds are now releasing I´m not even sure about that.....and the biggest singular piece of the pie, mobile, doesn`t care anyways.

 

[Madflavor]

Gamers in general are very price sensitive. You're going to see more and more of them flock to F2P games, subscription services (assuming they don't continue jacking up those prices), and some might just bow out of gaming in general (in favor of Youtube, Tik Tok, Streaming, etc). In addition, the POTUS just launched sweeping world wide tarrifs that are going to bring down consumer spending in general.

I don't see a crash happening because gaming is too big and too diverse for that to happen, but when it comes to AAA gaming I see a correction in the foreseeable future. AAA gaming has become more and more unsustainable over the years, and now with everything happening, this might accelerate the AAA market tipping over.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Could this be how the world sees the rise of piracy like in China?

How do you plan to pirate XSX and PS5 software?

 

[Kotaro]

What’s with all Nintendo hating posts in the last 24 hours?!?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

And who is Lucretia in your analogy ?

But Lucretia is the one that triggered the fall of empire, and establishment of the republic...

 

[LordCBH]

That could be on the horizon anyway.

Which horizon? Forbidden West?

 

[Majukun]

Since it's apparently a serious question, no.

 

[reinking]

What’s with all Nintendo hating posts in the last 24 hours?!?

$80 games? Sony caught it for $70 games so it is not surprising.

 

[Kotaro]

$80 games? Sony caught it for $70 games so it is not surprising.

That’s for only ONE game, their most popular game MKW

 

[Guilty_AI]

But Lucretia is the one that triggered the fall of empire, and establishment of the republic...

*Fall of the monarchy. The empire came after the republic.

 

[poodaddy]

One can only hope. This industry is a fucking mess, it'd be kind of nice if it was burned down so we can build it back up and get another 25 years of excellence before it goes to shit again.

 

[reinking]

That’s for only ONE game, their most popular game MKW

Do you really think this is going to stay for one game? Why do you feel the need to defend this?

If you want more reason though, they are charging for upgrades of older games, charging for what is essentially a tutorial/demo type app and they significantly increased the cost of their launch console over last generation. Those things are bound to bring some negativity. You're acting like this doesn't happen to every other console maker. Sony took it for the $70 games and is still taking it for the $700 Pro. It comes with the territory of increased prices, especially when some of it looks anti-consumer.

 

[Arachnid]

Gaming will never crash. Gamers are braindead and low inhibition. They will buy the console. They will begrudgingly pay 100 dollars for GTA. They will eat the price hike for new titles every 5 years. They'll bitch about it all while allowing it to happen.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

*Fall of the monarchy. The empire came after the republic.

Also:

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The industry has never been in danger, no matter what a certain fanbase tries to convince us.

Gaming has more players and revenue than ever. It's hilarious to suggest that anything Nintendo or Sony do will make an impact. This is as wrong as people who believe that GTA will "move the needle" one way or the other.

 

[hinch7]

That’s for only ONE game, their most popular game MKW

You're naive to think this won't have a big impact on the cost of games. Once something is deemed acceptable in the VG industry, all other companies follow.

I'm actually surprised Nintendo came first for $80+ games. I thought it was going to be Rockstar with GTA VI.

 

[Toots]

That's pre-republic. But anyway, point is the conditions for total war aren't here. The world couldn't go into total war mode even if it wanted to.

Damn i don't know what i read i thought you were talking about the fall of the roman kingdom and the establishment of the roman republic.

Of course total war is not possible, not when the western world population is 50% obese slobs with a 60 IQ, but still did you see the prices of those switch 1.5 games ???

But Lucretia is the one that triggered the fall of kingdom, and establishment of the republic...

I know dude im actually generally smart too, plus i got killer abs. (actually im zack efron but please keep it to yourself)

 

[AJUMP23]

Gaming market will not crash as long as the economy is decent.

 

[SHAKEZ]

What are these threads man lol

 

[Robb]

It might cause Nintendo to crash. But they’re in their own bubble so the rest will continue as usual.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Gaming market will not crash as long as the economy is decent.

so it already crashed?

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

No but it’s a terrible turn for the industry especially when others raise their prices too thinking they can get away with $80. Lots of games will end up flopping as people will just buy fewer games. It’s not a good look at all. I expected some bullshit like this from Rockstar but seeing it started by Nintendo feels like a slap in the face. I’m protesting this with my wallet and I won’t be buying a Switch 2, I’ll rely on emulation. I don’t want anyone degrading my hobby with their greed and I don’t care if it’s Nintendo.

 

[AJUMP23]

so it already crashed?

Well I think you are going to see a retraction in sales across the industry.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Well I think you are going to see a retraction in sales across the industry.

I'm already seeing so i guess you made a point lol

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I know dude im actually generally smart too, plus i got killer abs. (actually im zack efron but please keep it to yourself)

 

[yurinka]

Will Switch 2 usher in a gaming market crash​

Lol no, Switch only represents a small portion of the gaming market. The biggest portion of the market is mobile gaming, and in consoles PlayStation has the majority of the market share.

If Switch 2 would become another WiiU (won't happen, I think that in the long term will sell less than Switch 1 but still will have very good sales), sales would just move to PlayStation and PC handhelds, or at least will continue in Switch 1.

 

[Roman Empire]

As long as Steam is here, gaming will last. What you can see with people who can't afford switch 2 prices leaving nintendo to piracy/emulation or other platforms.

 

[Madflavor]

No but it’s a terrible turn for the industry especially when others raise their prices too thinking they can get away with $80. Lots of games will end up flopping as people will just buy fewer games. It’s not a good look at all. I expected some bullshit like this from Rockstar but seeing it started by Nintendo feels like a slap in the face. I’m protesting this with my wallet and I won’t be buying a Switch 2, I’ll rely on emulation. I don’t want anyone degrading my hobby with their greed and I don’t care if it’s Nintendo.

My household income is pretty decent, but $80 - $90 games will price me out of AAA launch titles. I mean after tax, $90 is pretty much $100. It's just not responsible spending imo, I got more important and productive shit to spend my money on. The fact that these price increases are happening right as worldwide tarrifs are about to nuke consumer spenidng, is interesting timing. It's going to push people away.

Thank fuck for Steam and GoG.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Lol no, Switch only represents a small portion of the gaming market. The biggest portion of the market is mobile gaming, and in consoles PlayStation has the majority of the market share.

If Switch 2 would become another WiiU (won't happen, I think that in the long term will sell less than Switch 1 but still will have very good sales), sales would just move to PlayStation and PC handhelds, or at least will continue in Switch 1.

I guess i didn’t phrase it well. I was referencing if people buy $80 Mario Kart and lets say at least an $80 GTA VI, will that and anti consumer practices as Nintendo is showing, be a lynchpin to a AAA market collapse?