Will The Nintendo Switch 2 Be A Success?

The fanboys will make it so, I'll wait for the inevitable upgraded/OLED version and a better roster of exclusive games.
Also if Gamefreak somehow becomes competent with their next mainline pokemon, they might get me earlier.
 
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I think the console price and affordability of the games will make it sell significantly less than switch. A lot of parents can't say why not buy one anymore it's just not in the price bracket for that kind of thinking
 
tr1p1ex said:
There's a lot of inelastic demand for the big NIntendo games.
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We'll see.

I personally don't think things will be as inelastic this time when the consumer has more options.

Buy Mario Kart World for $80 or keep playing Mario Kart 8: Deluxe through b/c for no additional cost and buy nothing/something else. Every big Switch sequel is going to be a tougher sell to the casual audience.
 
Robb said:
We'll see.

I personally don't think things will be as inelastic this time when the consumer has more options.

Buy Mario Kart World for $80 or keep playing Mario Kart 8: Deluxe through b/c for no additional cost and buy nothing/something else. Every big Switch sequel is going to be a tougher sell to the casual audience.
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That's there regardless. IT would exist if the games were $60 still. Some of the biggest competition for Nintendo is themselves and what they made last generation.
 
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It'll definitely be a success sales wise but not really too hyped for any of the games. Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong, and Hyrule Warriors looks good but still nothing really good enough to make me go wow.
 
It will be successful, but I have a hard time imagining it going gangbusters like switch 1... At least not with what they've shown so far with prices and weird restrictions.
 
I'm not personally excited about it but it's the only place to play all of their exclusives, so yeah it will sell fine.
 
Yes.

But nowhere near the Switch at that price and with the attitude of showing preference to hardcore Nintendo gamers.
 
XXL said:
The OG Switch first presentation was pretty bad, if I remember correctly.
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It showed more big first party games coming out that year. We saw Mario, Zelda, Mario kart (was new for about everyone besides the few million of us who had it on wiiu), new splatoon, and the big part was that it was a hybrid.

Sw2 was like here is Mario Kart and a new 3d Donkey Kong in July( which is hard to gauge how it will turn out, probably good but it's been 25 years since the last one.) Metroid is sometime this year, hopefully. That's it mostly Kirby Air ride and crazy mouse mover games are cute but not big system sellers. And this system is mostly the same but more powerful and a shitter screen than the switch oled with "mouse controls and some better ergonomics.

With the price of the system and seemly greatly increase in games costing more it moves more from I'm going to buy this now with the sw1 to maybe I'll wait to see what other games it offers to the sw2. We heard rumors of Nintendo being worried about the sw2, now we see why.
 
I wager the Switch 2 will sell about half what its predecessor did. There are some no-longer-applicable factors that drove the success of the original Switch, which the Switch 2 does not benefit from. The Switch 2 will still be financially successful, but definitely not the crazy cocaine-addled monkey town success of the original Switch.
 
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_Ex_ said:
I wager the Switch 2 will sell about half what its predecessor did. There are some no-long-applicable factors that drove the success of the original Switch, which the Switch 2 does not benefit from. The Switch 2 will still be financially successful, but definitely not the crazy cocaine-addled monkey town success of the original Switch.
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The magic of Iwata is palpably absent.
 
i completely missed the mark at the time with the Switch, the formula is there, now they can get their version of third party games, but those prices, damn...are parents around the world willing to drop that much money for their kids' console?

we might have another 3ds situation..but it's also true that the market around technology and videogames is now completely different
 
Guardian Monkey said:
It showed more big first party games coming out that year. We saw Mario, Zelda, Mario kart (was new for about everyone besides the few million of us who had it on wiiu), new splatoon, and the big part was that it was a hybrid.

Sw2 was like here is Mario Kart and a new 3d Donkey Kong in July( which is hard to gauge how it will turn out, probably good but it's been 25 years since the last one.) Metroid is sometime this year, hopefully. That's it mostly Kirby Air ride and crazy mouse mover games are cute but not big system sellers. And this system is mostly the same but more powerful and a shitter screen than the switch oled with "mouse controls and some better ergonomics.

With the price of the system and seemly greatly increase in games costing more it moves more from I'm going to buy this now with the sw1 to maybe I'll wait to see what other games it offers to the sw2. We heard rumors of Nintendo being worried about the sw2, now we see why.
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We did? The pricing they've announced today screams anything but worry. The opposite really, overconfidence.
 
Could go either wat. You can't predict anything with Nintendo.

But overall price economy around Switch 2 is way more stingy than around Switch 1. Plus it's more expensive than PS5 Slim DE and only slightly cheaper than Steam Deck OLED 512, so value proposition is not that terrific.

But alas, I think it will do a gangbusters launch regardless of common sense.
 
Of course it's going to be a commercial success. Nintendo basically has a tight monopoly when it comes to the family friendly, children and nostalgia demographic of games and gamers.

It's going to sell out. People underestimate exclusive games.
 
I'm excited for the new first-party games and the performance increase. Will the mainstream buy a new console for an open-world Mario? Not sure.

I think it will all depend on the new Zelda, Pokemon games and how deep/expansive Mario Kart World will be.

I'm also baffled by the 50% price increase for games. Going from 60 euros to 90 euros is just fucking wild.
 
success? yes...

As much so as the switch? From what we have seen and the price points so far, I'm going to say no.

but a lot can happen over a lifetime. PS3 notoriously turned its fortunes around near the very end of its gen.
 
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I got laughed at (rightly, as it happens) for my certainty before the Switch launch that its prices then would be the end of it, so I won't make that mistake again. I think the Switch 2 will do well but its success will be a clear step down from that of its predecessor. Feel free to come back and giggle in seven years when the damn thing has taken over the planet.
 
It's easy to focus on the immediate games coming out and the price increases during an economic downturn and assume it won't be very successful, but that's a bit short sighted.

Nintendo is going to release their big games in waves. Animal Crossing, Mario, Zelda, Smash, etc will all be making their way eventually and with them will come enticing limited edition Switch 2's and the inevitable OLED model. I wouldn't rule out other lower cost variants.

Being backwards compatible doesn't hurt.
 
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after the last Bowser statement, i ll 100% be buying a moded Switch, fuck Nintendo.

its not about been able to afford now, its about greed and two can play this game Nintendo.
 
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Lokaum D+ said:
after the last Bowser statement, i ll 100% be buying a moded Switch, fuck Nintendo.

its not about been able to afford now, its about greed and two can play this game Nintendo.
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The Switch 2 is never catching the original after missing your sale. ;)
 
Mozza said:
The Switch 2 is never catching the original after missing your sale. ;)
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i dont care if it sell 2000000000000 units, i m no Nintendo shareholder, so, at the end of the day, i ll be playing the same games that you are paying but i ll not be wasting my money on it :messenger_kissing_smiling:
 
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Damn for Switch 3 I will be over 45 years old, and even then someone will be arguing about how Nintendo games are for kids and they trained their fans to not care about graphics. Damn
 
Guardian Monkey said:
It showed more big first party games coming out that year. We saw Mario, Zelda, Mario kart (was new for about everyone besides the few million of us who had it on wiiu), new splatoon, and the big part was that it was a hybrid.

Sw2 was like here is Mario Kart and a new 3d Donkey Kong in July( which is hard to gauge how it will turn out, probably good but it's been 25 years since the last one.) Metroid is sometime this year, hopefully. That's it mostly Kirby Air ride and crazy mouse mover games are cute but not big system sellers. And this system is mostly the same but more powerful and a shitter screen than the switch oled with "mouse controls and some better ergonomics.

With the price of the system and seemly greatly increase in games costing more it moves more from I'm going to buy this now with the sw1 to maybe I'll wait to see what other games it offers to the sw2. We heard rumors of Nintendo being worried about the sw2, now we see why.
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Switch 2 is getting

Donkey Kong, Prime 4, Pokemon Legends, Mario Kart, Kirby Air riders and Zelda Musou.
for me it seems to be as good of a year
 
Lokaum D+ said:
i dont care if it sell 2000000000000 units, i m no Nintendo shareholder, so, at the end of the day, i ll be playing the same games that you are paying but i ll not be wasting my money on it :messenger_kissing_smiling:
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Not a shareholder either. I had a Wii U and still had fun with it. Personally I can't wait for the new Mario Kart game............. it's long overdue.
 
Lethal01 said:
Switch 2 is getting

Donkey Kong, Prime 4, Pokemon Legends, Mario Kart, Kirby Air riders and Zelda Musou.
for me it seems to be as good of a year
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Very true. And there will be more things from Nintedno in the pipeline. They pretty much shut down Switch software prodution ages ago.
 
Mozza said:
Not a shareholder either. I had a Wii U and still had fun with it. Personally I can't wait for the new Mario Kart game............. it's long overdue.
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Same! While the prices suck, I'm just super excited for a new Nintendo console and a new Mario Kart (that also happens to look absolutely phenomenal). June can't come soon enough!
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Yes, but it's aiming to be like the 3DS to the DS, not another Switch 1. Surely Nintendo realises they're going for a higher cost with significantly less lifetime sales.

Switch 1 did really well appealing to the casuals, being a secondary platform to the more invested gamers and having a cheap option for parents to get kids / get them one each.

That won't happen this time. Perhaps those of us posting about it on a forum pre-launch get it as a secondary platform, but for most people, I think it's Switch or PS5/6, not both. There's also no chance of multiple per house, at least until there's a considerably cheaper Switch 2 Lite, if that happens.
 
It'll be a runaway success much in the same way as the Switch. The online negativity and price backlash will knock the wind out of the sails for a brief moment but other than that Switch 2 will keep on trucking for years to come.
 
I don't know. It won't fail I think but it's starting with a tarnished reputaion from game pricing and bad comunication and that can can hinder its mometum greatly even if preorders and initial sales are good. To outpace the NS1 Nintendo should have to ride it out through good announcements and a good rythm of high quality releases.

I think that the plan looks something like this: Strong opening sales + MKWorld word of mouth → Nintendo Direct around Summer Games Fest hyping up DK Bananza, Kirby Air Riders, dating MP4 → DK Launches to great reviews → Metroid Launches to great reviews → Drag Drive launches and it's not completely embarassing → October Nintendo Direct hyping Hyrule Warriors, and revealng Super Mario anniversary plans and some new, exciting announcements for next year including more info abou The Duskbloods→ Pokemon ZA launches and reviews don't matter because people will eat it up → Hyrule Warriors releases and its an above average Warriors game, so thats a win → Something previously announced Mario related releases → Kirby Air riders releases in time to end 2025.

It there's any hiccup during this I think they are going to stuggle. And year 2026 has to be very strong if they want to have a upward hype trajectory. Swich first 6 months are going to have great games but Drag Drive looks like it's not going to do anythig for anyone and two of the strongest bets for this period are Mario Kart World and Kirby Air Riders, both cute mascot character racing games with simmilar aesthetics and philosophies and Mario Kart is going to eclipse Kirby no matter what. They really need to show a plethora of diverse and exciting games for the next calendar year if they want people's attention specially with they extremely poor handling of princing and communication and how the whole internet is loving dunking on them for it.
 
It will sell well with die hard Nintendo fans but at that price and games it won't have the mainstream appeal like the first switch.
 
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Nintendo's consoles and games have never been so expensive. That's going to hinder sales with people who aren't diehard Nintendo fans. They're alienating their casual fanbase just like the Wii U.

But this is all a test for them. They have enough money in the bank to see what happens. The new leadership at Nintendo is something else though. The way they communicated pricing among other things is disrespectful. Raising prices for games $10 is something they could get away with for sure, but $20? That's too much too quickly. It's a real gamble if it alienates potential consumers or not, but I think it will.

The handheld market is also far more matured. Many people who started on Switch migrated to Steam Decks or other handhelds that are more open and less expensive. The Switch 2 has competition now whereas it didnt back in 2017.
 
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