So where are these copies from? Aren't they reselling either MSDN keys or Dreamspark student keys?
That's clearly against the EULA for Windows.
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So where are these copies from? Aren't they reselling either MSDN keys or Dreamspark student keys?
That's clearly against the EULA for Windows.
LiquidMetal14
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Will you get a new key when you upgrade? I want to be able to archive it for potential CS calls. I got my 8.1 Pro key right from MSFT so I'm hoping they have that part sorted.
Nostremitus
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So? They're still legitimate Windows keys.I don't see it as any different than buying Steam Keys from GmG or Amazon... or getting Steam keys here in the giveaway threads for that matter...
SyberWolf
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ive been reading something about it being tied to your microsoft account.
and you do indeed need to make a microsoft account when win10 boots for the first time in the preview build.
so i guess win10 wont use keys for clean installs.
Hip Hop
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There is a difference.
Those Steam keys from GMG and Amazon are official retail keys.
Those from Dreamspark and other means are not. They aren't meant to be shared with everyone. They will be disabled once they find out the way they are being used.
SyberWolf
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make sure its up to date and have the needed updates installed.
For Windows 7 SP1:
KB3035583
KB2952664
For Windows 8.1 Update:
KB3035583
KB2976978
you can let this script run for 20 minutes if you have all updates and then reboot and it should popup eventually or the next day.
i had it pop up a day after on my second computer.
script and howto -> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...10-but-i/848b5cce-958b-49ae-a132-a999a883265b
FaintDeftone
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Does Dreamspark even give out 8.1 keys? Last time I looked it was only random software.
Actually updates straight through Windows Update, pretty much effortless.
I didn't have to do this, I was able to log in with my local account without a problem. Only when you use the store or want to use OneDrive or something like that it has you convert your local account to a MS account.
I think it depends on what subscription your Uni has set up. For me you get some modelling software among other things, and OS keys for 7 (Home, Premium and Pro, separate purchases all free). Same with 8 and 8.1
Yet they don't want to hand out free Office licenses, the thing that probably helps the most when you're a student
They also have debug versions as well, they're even offering the Technical Preview of W10
Dreams-Visions
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Diablohead
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Anyone with a windows 8.1 tablet here been given the win10 upgrade yet?
I know they call that copy of windows "Windows 8.1 with bing" but it's pretty much the same as 8.1 home, the bing part doesn't change anything with how the system works.
I know they call that copy of windows "Windows 8.1 with bing" but it's pretty much the same as 8.1 home, the bing part doesn't change anything with how the system works.
Sevket-Erhat
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The app finally worked for me. Reserved
Nostremitus
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They are still legitimate Microsoft keys. Also, you really don't know where the GMG keys come from. Just last week we had a thread where someone's game was deactivated because the credit card used to buy the games that were sold to GMG was stolen. They buy steam keys from the cheapest sources which aren't always legal sources. In that particular case, they looked more like a fencer for stolen goods than a business that just sells retail keys. Their prices are low and those keys have to come from somewhere.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.874994-Witcher-3-Dev-Dont-Buy-From-Green-Man-Gaming
My computer has been running fine for two years so far. If Microsoft were going to do something it would have probably happened by now. Of course, this is all thread derailment, hence the reason I had originally used PM. This isn't the place for this tired argument.
It makes even less sense to go off on it considering the free upgrade on the way. So what if someone wants to try 8.1 on the cheap before the free upgrade to 10 comes out?
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I bought a Windows 8 key from the mod of that subreddit and I've not had an issue with it and judging by his feedback no one else has either. I wanted to try 8.1 before 10 and £10 was a good price.
HighResTomato
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Just installed Windows 10 Insider Preview (10074) on my Mac, apart from the sound not working at the moment I'm loving it. It looks so good! I ran Windows 8.1 on bootcamp last year but needed the hard drive space so got rid of it.
I only wish Microsoft would make a 13-15" laptop with design cues taken from the Surface Pro and I would switch back to windows in an instant.
edit:
Anyone else experiencing the sound drivers not working on bootcamp?
I only wish Microsoft would make a 13-15" laptop with design cues taken from the Surface Pro and I would switch back to windows in an instant.
edit:
Anyone else experiencing the sound drivers not working on bootcamp?
It's true. I was never given the option to download the updates, it just happened.
You're given the option to restart now or at a time the computer deems 'good' (ie: peak non-usage) after install.
I got it. But only after manually checking for and installing some updates. You might have to do that as well if you haven't already.
Lionheart1827
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Nvm, I overlooked that 2nd sentence
They should really change that. I can see why they're doing that, but taking away control is BS imo.
You can maximize the start menu so it works like the 8 start screen. I use an app to pin my Steam games there, since it looks far better than the shitty desktop icons. I just hope they add the collapsible group/folder support from Windows Phone 8.1.
That's how the tech preview works right now, but I haven't heard any confirmation this is final, since skipping updates in a tech preview would be a bit counterproductive.
Stumpokapow
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Two things:
Thing 1: This is apparently the first case of GMG buying software through third-parties like this, and it's caused significant strife and confusion for all involved. In general, keys bought from GMG, Amazon, bundles, etc are legitimate.
I bought a W7 Ultimate key off a software site the year after my developer preview expired. About 2 years after that, the key was revoked (presumably for the same reason any of those keys are revoked: they were illegally resold MSDN or whatever keys). I don't view myself as a pirate for having bought what I believed to be a legit key, but I did have to go buy an actual legit key later. In general, on GAF, we'd prefer not to promote methods of acquiring software that could either expose us to liability or force us to have to intervene as moderators. If you recommend someone buy a key somewhere, and their key gets revoked, and they come to us, it puts us in the frustrating position of having to figure out if you're a scammer or not.
arhra
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The full-screen start option isn't the same thing as tablet mode - tablet mode optimises the whole experience for touch, with all apps forced to fullscreen (or snapped), various tweaks to the UI to make it more tablet-ish/touch-friendly (wider spacing on the icons on the right of the taskbar, for example), a global back button, no access to the desktop, and running apps hidden on the taskbar (by default, you can re-enable them if you want), plus of course the full-screen start.
The fullscreen start option in the settings is just that, and doesn't enable the other tablet-mode features (so you still have a desktop, apps in overlapping windows, apps on your taskbar, and mouse/kb-optimised UI), but now you have the more win8-ish fullscreen start rather than the smaller menu.
Goldenmoney
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I'm curious have they said if windows 10 tech preview testers will get the final version free as well?
The funny thing is that I know all that
Just a careless mistype on my part. I guess that's what happens when you make a post at 2 or 3 am, like I did then and am doing now. The video that I posted was just the first one I came across that showcased how the full screen start option looked in Windows 10.Nostremitus
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It appears to be the first time a publisher has disabled keys from them, yes. If you sell game codes that cheap you have to buy them even cheaper to make a profit.
On the second point I sent you a PM.
Diablohead
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Thought so, i'll do that.
One of the big talks in the past was about windows tablets getting the upgrade, rather odd that they are not getting an automatic update yet.
Nothing, I guess. I expect those who upgraded to the TP will just upgrade to the final version no problem.
In the worst case, I imagine TP users who installed fresh might be upgraded into unactivated RTM copies, which will run for 90 days before requiring a CD key.
Red Liquorice
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This made me chuckle.
Diablohead
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click on the little white arrow pointing up and select customize, then you can tell it to always hide
Dictator93
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Yeah, i would also prefer a blank install (now windows.old shit)
Black Republican
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omg i see the little icon on my toolbar now!
longdi
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Nope, it will still show after a reboot. What a damn dirty adware.
Responses from Microsoft's Gabe Aul:
You will not need your 8.1 key, the same device will reactivate once it has been successfully upgraded to 10.
Either way will work. Once you've upgraded to 10 on the machine the license will allow you to reinstall at no cost.
Once you upgrade W10 w/ the free upgrade offer you will able to clean reinstall Windows 10 on same device any time
Nostremitus
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So... What happens when I upgrade my CPU and Motherboard?
Poodlestrike
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I think it depends on how many of the other components are still there. If it's still majority original hardware, you're good. Traditionally, I think Windows licenses are good for... 2 computers? Maybe. So you might be covered in any case.
SyberWolf
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from my experience if its a OEM version it will be tied to the motherboard you register the key on for automatic activation.
BUT its pretty easy to get around it ive installed a OEM copy on another pc at home with the same key and i was able to activate it with the automatic phone system.
Moral Panic
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Anyone else have the preview run really slow on their pc? I put it on my laptop and then a few days later the hard drive died, bought a new hard drive & reinstalled and now it is barely usable with it constantly showing 100% disk usage in task manager. Is everyone else good/improved performance vs win7/8?
Nostremitus
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Is it a 5400rpm disk set to IDE mode in BIOS?
The motherboard is usually what Windows looks for to make sure it's the same computer. You can swap out most parts without a fresh install, but change the motherboard and Windows won't boot.
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