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[T.O.P]

Going from 7 to 8.1 was insane, everything was 10 times faster

Can't wait for this next step

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I'll give it a couple of weeks before I upgrade just to be sure there aren't any big immediate problems.

How well will Windows 10 work with older hardware (holy fuck alliteration)?

I only have an AMD Phenom II x4 965BE, a Radeon HD 6870 1GB, and 8GB of RAM.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Will upgrade as soon as there is a classic shell thing available for 10 like it is for 8.

 

[glaurung]

Will upgrade as soon as there is a classic shell thing available for 10 like it is for 8.

Classic shell? What's wrong with PowerShell?

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Classic shell? What's wrong with PowerShell?

Lol, i mean http://www.classicshell.net/ not the cmd.exe

All hail the powershell.

Fake Edit: I see it has support for W10 already, Day1 upgrade.

Legit Edit:

You can customise the W10 start menu pretty heavily, it's no way as bad as the situation we had with 8/8.1... Which legitimately needed a shell replacement.

Neat, will try that first.

 

[JordanKZ]

Will upgrade as soon as there is a classic shell thing available for 10 like it is for 8.

You can customise the W10 start menu pretty heavily, it's no way as bad as the situation we had with 8/8.1... Which legitimately needed a shell replacement.

 

[FullMetaltech]

Nice. My wedding anniversary present from MS.

 

[Teppic]

How much can you customize the start menu in Windows 10?

Will the start menu button + write and search work the same way as in Windows 8.1?

Does it support the resolution 1280x720?

I'll probably upgrade anyway because of DX12.

 

[glaurung]

Lol, i mean http://www.classicshell.net/ not the cmd.exe

All hail the powershell.

Fake Edit: I see it has support for W10 already, Day1 upgrade.

Oh, I see.

That looks hideous though.

Will the start menu button + write and search work the same way as in Windows 8.1?

Yes. Plus you got Cortana now too.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Oh, I see.

That looks hideous though.

Eh, looks just like windows 7 and i´m fine with that.

 

[The Elite]

Looking forward to that Xbox streaming.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

what about enteprise licensing?

 

[Pooya]

well, Windows 7 does look hideous now and of course that style doesn't macth rest of the OS either which makes it even more hideous. 3rd party addons like that always cause issues too.

 

[The Cowboy]

So, does this taskbar update icon remove itself after a bit?, i like my taskbar showing all my icons and notifications and I disable all the ones i don't use (i don't like having the little notification box popup arrow) - yet there is no option to disable this one.

 

[Chinese Cartoons]

XP was/is also "perfect" for a lot of people and 7 was just Vista with a new task bar.

"I don't know what i am talking about"

 

[CaptainRizla]

Bugger. I installed the tech preview yesterday. Any other way to reserve Win 10? Is it a website link?

 

[TheDude108]

Will upgrade if Dell release proper trackpad drivers for my Latitude E7440.

The Insider Preview drivers remove the right-hand side "scroll wheel" style scrolling for some reason, relying on the two-finger scroll which is pretty awful.

 

[Original Famous Ray]

Woke up to see that little windows reserve win 10 icon on my tray. Neat! I'm on Win 7 so of course I'm going to do it but I'd like a choice to do a clean install. I'd like to get a new gpu by that time as well as The Witcher is currently making my poor Radeon 7850 squeal in pain.

 

[BeforeU]

Gonna be so good. I am ready

 

[Woffls]

Hmph. Running Win 8.1 Pro on two systems and neither have the system tray icon thingy. Odd way to upgrade. I really hope we get keys out of this method... reading the F&Q now.

 

[Bishop89]

I have a notification saying its available now.

Will this delete anything on my HDD?

Edit: Doh, its only to register, bah..

 

[Mr_Zombie]

"I don't know what i am talking about"

You forgot to bold "for a lot of people". A lot people thought Win7 was nothing more than just Vista with fancy taskbar features and refused to upgrade from WinXP (doesn't matter that after many updates Vista wasn't that bad anymore). Just like many people thought Windows 8 is just Win7 with Metro stuff thrown in so there's no point in upgrading.

 

[TheLaughingStock]

Care to list the "tons of reasons"?

It's not that I don't want to upgrade, it's that I have no reason to. All the "reasons" seem like things that most people don't need. Like they're trying hard to have reasons to have newer versions of Windows when 7 is pretty much perfect.

Why did you need to upgrade to W7? Seems like the best way to figure out if you need W10 if you list the main reasons.

 

[Noisepurge]

i'm still so afraid that there will be a big buried skeleton with the "free" upgrade 6 months down the line :E

 

[glaurung]

i'm still so afraid that there will be a big buried skeleton with the "free" upgrade 6 months down the line :E

No I don't think so.

The worst that will happen is that they announce some extra functionality to Windows that you will need to pay for - if you want it. And I am not talking about Office or Server functionality. More like blu-ray playback for Windows Media Player etc.

 

[888]

XP/Vista/7 has the same UI. You didn't have to relearn anything.

Windows 8 was a huge departure in how everything worked. I know of multiple people (who are in the tech industry btw) who downgraded back to 7 because 8 was so confusing.

How does 10's user interface and experience compare to 7?



These reasons are all extremely vague. The question is whether "more stable" and "better compatibility with future programs" is worth relearning everything about your OS or problems with your current programs.

Windows 8 start screen is beyond easy. Too easy most people have a hard time. Sounds silly but damn. All you need to do is type what you are looking for. Once you customize your screen by pinning tiles and organizing them it is way faster. I don't even use classic shell anymore. I have also been in the tech industry for 13 years but i won't downgrade because I fail to understand something. I keep at it until I do understand it. Once it clicked it is beyond easy and once I show people how to actually get around it light bulbs pop up above their heads.

 

[Rosur]

i'm still so afraid that there will be a big buried skeleton with the "free" upgrade 6 months down the line :E

if there was there would be an even worse outcry than the windows 8 changes. I think their doing it for user adoption and to gain some of the market share back that they lost with win 8.

 

[eso76]

Oh, nice.
I like that new OS smell

 

[M3d10n]

You forgot to bold "for a lot of people". A lot people thought Win7 was nothing more than just Vista with fancy taskbar features and refused to upgrade from WinXP (doesn't matter that after many updates Vista wasn't that bad anymore). Just like many people thought Windows 8 is just Win7 with Metro stuff thrown in so there's no point in upgrading.

Yup. When Win7 was announced, it's flagship features were pinning things to the taskbar and the jump lists. That was it. Yes, there were many other small changes that improved usability and performance, but none of those were widely discussed. Heck, I challenge those who "see no reason to upgrade" to list the reasons for upgrading from XP/Vista to 7.

 

[Noisepurge]

if there was there would be an even worse outcry than the windows 8 changes. I think their doing it for user adoption and to gain some of the market share back that they lost with win 8.

i'm still feeling like i gotta wait about the full year to see if there's some "windows 10 sells all user interaction data to advertising partners" or "start menu now with xbox OS style ad panels" schenanigans. Nothing is free!!

 

[Nostremitus]

*Once you know where everything is.

I've known a few people who just get frusterated that they can't find everything they once could.

Since i didn't have 7 and went from vista to 8, its been a smoother transition.
I actually had to go from 8.1 back to 8 (system refresh) once because of some stupid error that made it so i could boot anything.

MY GOD does 8 suck so much compared to 8.1.
Since then I quite happy with 8.1

This was me when I first booted Windows 95.

 

[kewlmyc]

Reserved, but I'll wait a few weeks-few months before installing it. Need to see how everyone else handles it and if some of my games/programs works with it or not before I upgrade.

 

[Spiritreaver]

Day one, not waiting around. I installed Windows 8 and 8.1 day one and had zero issues.

Can't wait.

 

[dork]

woke up today with that nice little icon letting me reserve my windows 10

fucking cool

i wonder how a fresh install will work? id like to do that

 

[Super Rookie]

Would it be working upgrading to the tech preview, and then the final version or best to just wait?

 

[CrunchyFrog]

I know of multiple people (who are in the tech industry btw) who spent the few days it takes getting used to 8/8.1 and didn't downgrade because 90% of the functionality and options are in the exact same place as before. Honestly, this reason people trot out about how drastically different it is, frankly, is nonsense.

Outside of the start menu to tiles, which at that the core functionality is largely the same, most things remain untouched. Like the settings, you can use the modern app, or, if you don't like that, the good old fashioned control panel is right there.

I think the one valid complaint is that most of the power user functions are not included in the Metro settings app, you still have to go to OG control panel for a lot of it. In fact there's a lot of stuff like that in the Metro UI in general, which I understand was built with the unknowing masses in mind but it creates extra steps to "simplify" things without giving more advanced users from previous Windows versions a choice. W10 thankfully seems to be largely fixing that. Admittedly though I've recently grabbed a SP3 with W8.1 and I'm largely functional with it despite the above.

if there was there would be an even worse outcry than the windows 8 changes. I think their doing it for user adoption and to gain some of the market share back that they lost with win 8.

I can almost guarantee you that most of it is tech support-motivated. It's much easier to deprecate legacy code from older OS's to speed up new ones once everyone has upgraded and is on the same page. W10 is likely a kind of stair-step revision which will lead to W11 removing support for everything Pre-W8 in an effort to clean up the kernel, a jump on the level of W98/ME to XP.

 

[jwk94]

My 8.1 is buggy and slow. Will this fix it?

 

[RoadDogg]

So I opted in and now I still have to stare at this windows icon in my taskbar for weeks?

 

[Randomizer123454444]

My 8.1 is buggy and slow. Will this fix it?

My 8.1 is silky smooth and works perfectly. But I do have a good gaming rig + SSD.

Are you sure the bugs are not an issue with software like graphics card drivers? No offence, but in my experience most "bugs" people blame on Windows are caused by software people install themselves. Slowness might be the slow hard drive slowing things down, but that's a hardware issue really rather than OS issue.

 

[Macnair]

Is Windows 8.1 Single Language qualified for free upgrade? I've installed all the updates but no icon yet. Do I need to install optional updates too?

 

[Prophet Steve]

My 8.1 is buggy and slow. Will this fix it?

Depends on why it is buggy and slow.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Is there any amount of disk space needed? Running on a small SSD and only have about 20 gigs left

Hope to do a clean install so I can just wipe the drive (most of my other stuff is on my other HDD)

 

[Prophet Steve]

Is there any amount of disk space needed? Running on a small SSD and only have about 20 gigs left

Hope to do a clean install so I can just wipe the drive (most of my other stuff is on my other HDD)

It says a 3GB download, so maybe you can even do the normal upgrade.

 

[Unai]

Can I choose not to open applications in fullscreen this time without a third-party software?

 

[glaurung]

Can I choose not to open applications in fullscreen this time without a third-party software?

Yes. Already fixed in the preview builds.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Can I choose not to open applications in fullscreen this time without a third-party software?

Seems it is the default option now to have them windowed.

 

[cackhyena]

My 8.1 is buggy and slow. Will this fix it?

Something is fucked on your end if that's the case.

 

[JMDSO]

I think the one valid complaint is that most of the power user functions are not included in the Metro settings app, you still have to go to OG control panel for a lot of it. In fact there's a lot of stuff like that in the Metro UI in general, which I understand was built with the unknowing masses in mind but it creates extra steps to "simplify" things without giving more advanced users from previous Windows versions a choice. W10 thankfully seems to be largely fixing that. Admittedly though I've recently grabbed a SP3 with W8.1 and I'm largely functional with it despite the above.

One of the things that drove me nuts is that there is now two places for configuration of users and profiles. One is in settings, the other Control Panel.

 

[Nokterian]

Lol, i mean http://www.classicshell.net/ not the cmd.exe

All hail the powershell.

Fake Edit: I see it has support for W10 already, Day1 upgrade.

Legit Edit:

Neat, will try that first.

Been using classic shell since windows 8 launched and i am pretty happy with it. Hopefully we don't need it anymore with Win 10.

 

[FaintDeftone]

Very excited about this. From what I've seen of the technical preview, this thing will be awesome. Just built a brand new i7 machine too so I'm ready to rock.

Windows 8.1 has been a great OS for the most part. The boot speeds are insane, especially on an SSD, and it is buttery smooth. I don't get the hate it receives. Vanilla Win8 was a pile of ass though.