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[big_z]

in the past when I format windows 7 I always made a copy of my IE favorites along with a registry file to run afterwards to maintain the order they are listed in. when I make the jump to windows 10 and edge how do I bring over my favorites and keep the order theyre in? I really don't want to manually sort since I have many...

Question. I have 3 different copies of windows 8.1 (desktop, laptop, htpc) using the same Microsoft account for login. They will give me 3 keys right?

Every unique copy of windows 7-8 equals one key so I would assume so.

 

[clav]

Edge is ugly as sin with text on both my devices. Tried messing about with cleartype settings and ended up reinstalling Chrome.

Add ons would have been another issue had I got that far.

Move everyone over to Edge will be a big deal for web devs although hopefully Microsoft continues to comply with HTML5 standards.

Still a lot of IE users out there, which makes web dev life miserable.

Right now the score is the same as Safari for iOS.

Meanwhile Chrome nears the perfect score closer with each version.

 

[Hasney]

Move everyone over to Edge will be a big deal for web devs although hopefully Microsoft continues to comply with HTML5 standards.

Still a lot of IE users, which makes web dev life miserable.

Right now the score is the same as Safari for iOS.

Oh totally, it's a huge step forward for IE users who just use whatever web browser is on their system. Those people will likely be on home too, so they won't miss an update!

 

[Upsidedown Fuji]

Disabling driver updates from auto downloading and overwriting manufacturer signed drivers in the final build is not working 100% for me. My stupid elan touchpad driver keeps getting updated with a driver that reverses my scrolling and doesn't allow for personalization. My only gripe with 10 so far. I hope there is a better solution soon. Rolling back drivers only lasts till a restart.

 

[clav]

Disabling driver updates from auto downloading and overwriting manufacturer signed drivers in the final build is not working 100% for me. My stupid elan touchpad driver keeps getting updated with a driver that reverses my scrolling and doesn't allow for personalization. My only gripe with 10 so far. I hope there is a better solution soon. Rolling back drivers only lasts till a restart.

How are you rolling back drivers?

I wonder.

Can you try the Let me pick from a list of device drivers method and choose the last working driver listed on that screen (with the "Have Disk" option)?

I think that stops the updating nonsense in 8 without hiding updates, so it should work in 10 in theory.

 

[sweetvar26]

I have an old Dell Vostro that is running on Windows 7 professional. Will I be eligible to upgrade to Windows 10 for free? Is there a timeline when I could that?

Sorry if already asked.

 

[M3d10n]

Problem is there is a lot of junkware and fake apps in the Windows Metro app store when it has the lowest app numbers compared to the other two stores.

It's almost like Microsoft doesn't even care about the quality of apps on there, which totally negates your points. Why should anyone else care?

They can start by taking care of stuff there.

I think what will be more important later is when desktop apps can be managed with like an apt-get command via powershell. In fact, with the beauty of powershell, we can use Windows with the same Linux commands to manage.

Microsoft is tightening the Windows Store rules and a purge should happen pretty soon. Can't find the blog post on right now, but it focuses on the fake and useless apps, as well as "guide" apps. Apps with icons very similar to existing apps will be rejected, for example.

Apt-get "more important" later? For end users? OneGet is for devs/IT/power users, not grandmas.

BTW OneGet is already in, but the repositories aren't fully setup O think. Last time I tried it out would download from Chocolatey repos, but wouldn't run the install scripts.

 

[Conkerkid11]

Super weird, and not sure if it even has anything to do with Windows 10, but my monitor flashed, computer made a system sound through speakers, and I thought nothing of it. Tried playing GTA V, and the game was incredibly slow. Like, I couldn't possibly do anything at all without tabbing out and closing it down with task manager. I tried running it again, and the same thing happened.

Checked my task bar, and GeForce Experience wasn't even running. Started it up, and it's telling me I need to update my drivers to the last update available a month ago.

Never had my GPU drivers randomly roll back before.

 

[clav]

Microsoft is tightening the Windows Store rules and a purge should happen pretty soon. Can't find the blog post on right now, but it focuses on the fake and useless apps, as well as "guide" apps. Apps with icons very similar to existing apps will be rejected, for example.

Apt-get "more important" later? For end users? OneGet is for devs/IT/power users, not grandmas.

BTW OneGet is already in, but the repositories aren't fully setup O think. Last time I tried it out would download from Chocolatey repos, but wouldn't run the install scripts.

Make UI similar to like Ubuntu Software Center, and Grandma can now understand.

In other words, add 32-bit/64-bit apps to the store.

Doesn't seem like that's happening at launch.

 

[Upsidedown Fuji]

How are you rolling back drivers?

I wonder.

Can you try the Let me pick from a list of device drivers method and choose the last working driver listed on that screen (with the "Have Disk" option)?

I think that stops the updating nonsense in 8 without hiding updates, so it should work in 10 in theory.

Rolling back has always been in device properties of whatever device you are inspecting in device manager. It will allow you to restore the most recent driver installed before the current one. Maybe my wording is off? It's a bit late here.

 

[clav]

Rolling back has always been in device properties of whatever device you are inspecting in device manager. It will allow you to restore the most recent driver installed before the current one. Maybe my wording is off? It's a bit late here.

Right. I'm wondering if choosing from the list would make a difference from let me pick a device from update drivers.

 

[Diablohead]

Super weird, and not sure if it even has anything to do with Windows 10, but my monitor flashed, computer made a system sound through speakers, and I thought nothing of it. Tried playing GTA V, and the game was incredibly slow. Like, I couldn't possibly do anything at all without tabbing out and closing it down with task manager. I tried running it again, and the same thing happened.

Checked my task bar, and GeForce Experience wasn't even running. Started it up, and it's telling me I need to update my drivers to the last update available a month ago.

Never had my GPU drivers randomly roll back before.

I've had my screen suddenly turn black only to reappear 20 seconds later like nothing happened, I think it's driver related but I never had these issues in windows 7 or 8.1 last year.

One time it did reset my pc but that was on an older windows 10 build.

 

[M3d10n]

Make UI similar to like Ubuntu Software Center, and Grandma can now understand.

In other words, add 32-bit/64-bit apps to the store.

Doesn't seem like that's happening at launch.

So, making another store, when they already have one? Makes no sense whatsoever, specially when they'll be rolling out tools to make it easier to port win32 apps to UWP. It would also throw away most of the security benefits of the UWP platform, since the install and uninstall would depend entirely on how well written the install scripts are and even usermode win32 apps still can do tons of shady stuff, like snooping around other usermode apps memory, registering hooks and reading whatever files they want whenever they want without the user knowledge.

Going forward, win32 apps should be limited to apps that really need to make system changes, like shell extensions, disk tools and other IT/dev/poweruser applications. For whom a command line interface and community-policed repositories are enough. Not stuff like Candy Crush Saga or Solitaire.

 

[Captain_Fujisawa]

Super weird, and not sure if it even has anything to do with Windows 10, but my monitor flashed, computer made a system sound through speakers, and I thought nothing of it. Tried playing GTA V, and the game was incredibly slow. Like, I couldn't possibly do anything at all without tabbing out and closing it down with task manager. I tried running it again, and the same thing happened.

Checked my task bar, and GeForce Experience wasn't even running. Started it up, and it's telling me I need to update my drivers to the last update available a month ago.

Never had my GPU drivers randomly roll back before.

If it wasn't for having to reinstall, I'd just say the driver crashed. It's happened a few times for me. Usually I gent l get a note on the action centre about it.

Never had to reinstall though.

 

[Erebus]

Oof, if this is true I'll be postponing my adoption of W10 indefinitely. I'm using really old drivers for my 460 and they are perfectly stable. The last time I tried to update them, shit went bad. Guess I'll be waiting until I have a new GPU if they don't fix this.

I'm in the same boat.

I have the same GPU and the last stable driver that I can use without my PC crashing or freezing is is 314.22. I highly doubt this driver version will even install on Windows 10.

 

[CloudyTuba]

Not being able to stop videocard driver updates is a big problem. Might hold off until a workaround shows up or it gets patched. I don't care too much if Microsoft wants to force windows patches but third party stuff needs to be left alone and up to the user.

Yeah I was totally on board with the upgrade until I learned this. Now I think I'll hold off a little while.

 

[The Cowboy]

I really think the forced driver updates is for the insider builds only, it was after all a testing ground to fix things and make sure everything was working well for release - so it made sense to have drivers forcefully installed to.

I would not be surprised at all once the OS is fully out that the options that are actually in Windows 10 right now (there is options to stop driver updates just like in Window 7/8/8.1 - see below) to stop driver updates will stop them from being auto installed if you don't want them - I'd wager the auto updates are solely for MS updates once the full release is out (and auto driver installs are available if you want them)..

 

[Jotamide]

Day 2 (incase some wierd shit goes down on Day 1)

Yeah, this is the most sensible approach.

 

[Lemonte]

ah my cursor is finally back to normal. I don't even know what fixed it.

 

[niunhuiio]

Surely WinAero must be working on some tool to fix the auto driver updates for Windows 10 Home users, I think they've been quick to release apps that fix annoyances caused by new MS OS's in the past. 6 day hype

 

[Deleted member 1159]

I came back to my computer today and it was at like 800x600 and my nvidia driver was gone.

wat.

Found a link to 353.54 and reinstalled. I guess I need to find the automatic driver updates and turn it off

 

[LizardKing]

WELP. This morning I agreed to let Windows 8.1 do it's updates from yesterday and it completely borked my computer. I get the "Recovery. Your pc couldn't start properly" blue screen over and over. I create installation media, try to fix boot (nope), try to refresh (nope, hard drive is "locked"), don't have a system restore point. Oh well I figured, I will have to reinstall. OH WAIT, I can't reinstall using this 8.1 installation media and my windows 8 key (which allows the free upgrade to 8.1 but can't use the key to install directly because reasons.) And because my win8 key is an update key I will have to do a reg edit to even clean install that without installing win7/vista first, but actually think I had vista and not 7 before and who the fuck knows where that install disk is if I even wanted to do it legitimately. All this so I can just go win8>win8.1>win10. This will be most of my fucking day figuring this shit out. What the fuck Microsoft.

I hope they fix this shit with Windows 10, really getting tiring. I should be able to do a clean install even with an "upgrade." Require me to get the new key using the old key sure, but there is no reason to not allow a clean install.

 

[Compsiox]

Idk why but my eyes lit up when I saw what DirectX version I had:

 

[Buburibon]

Idk why but my eyes lit up when I saw what DirectX version I had:

Same here, buds. Mild nerdgasm in my case, actually.

 

[KnightHart]

Idk why but my eyes lit up when I saw what DirectX version I had:

Brothers in DX12 arms

 

[LukasTaves]

I think the mandatory driver updates are only for the beta. It would make no sense to allow people to stick with old unsupported beta drivers in a beta version of Windows. BTW, the latest NVidia drivers fixed the distorted cursors and the flickering.

I don't get people who haven't even used 10 wanting to get rid of the metro apps. They work like normal apps now, no fullscreen bullshit, there's no reason to be hating other than yelling at clouds. Receiving a notification when you get an email or message without having to waste CPU and RAM keeping the email or messaging app running in background or a tab opened in my browser is fantastic.

The "they take too long to open" complaint is simply a matter of perception. Modern apps, when launched, open their windows instantly display a logo while loading the executable while Desktop apps need to load their executables first before being able to show a window. For example, if I launch Chrome it takes a couple seconds before it shows up, the only feedback my PC is doing anything is the HDD light blinking. Meanwhile Edge will open a window the instant I launch it and will take a couple seconds to show the UI.



4. "Metro" apps run in normal windows as they should have since the beginning, so they are actually useful on desktops and laptops beyond watching Netflix
5. No more hidden mouse gestures needed to fully use the OS
6. Notification center
7. DirectX 12, which brings console-style "coding to the metal" performance to PC

Just for fun, here's a Windows 7 version of your post:

A few more:

8. Multiple desktops
9. Touch keyboard auto pops on desktop apps
10. Desktop apps are treated as apps in touch mode, instead of the whole desktop
11. Metro apps are a billion times better already.
12. Default mkv and subtitle support on the default player

 

[Qassim]

I had the latest NVIDIA drivers pushed to me to which introduced the screen flickering on my two side monitors (60hz - 144hz - 60hz), so I just installed the 353.49 drivers again and disabled the update for NVIDIA drivers via Windows Update.

I did it this way:

http://hmemcpy.com/2015/04/preventing-a-certain-windows-update-from-installing-on-windows-10/

 

[Hasney]

I had the latest NVIDIA drivers pushed to me to which introduced the screen flickering on my two side monitors (60hz - 144hz - 60hz), so I just installed the 353.49 drivers again and disabled the update for NVIDIA drivers via Windows Update.

I did it this way:

http://hmemcpy.com/2015/04/preventing-a-certain-windows-update-from-installing-on-windows-10/

It's solved in the most up to date drivers by not having 3D vision, at least for most people.

 

[Qassim]

It's solved in the most up to date drivers by not having 3D vision, at least for most people.

Odd, because when I re-installed the 353.49 drivers, all I did was install the graphics driver and left all the other new stuff that the 353.52 drivers pushed (including 3D vision) alone.

 

[jstripes]

So, making another store, when they already have one? Makes no sense whatsoever, specially when they'll be rolling out tools to make it easier to port win32 apps to UWP. It would also throw away most of the security benefits of the UWP platform, since the install and uninstall would depend entirely on how well written the install scripts are and even usermode win32 apps still can do tons of shady stuff, like snooping around other usermode apps memory, registering hooks and reading whatever files they want whenever they want without the user knowledge.

Going forward, win32 apps should be limited to apps that really need to make system changes, like shell extensions, disk tools and other IT/dev/poweruser applications. For whom a command line interface and community-policed repositories are enough. Not stuff like Candy Crush Saga or Solitaire.

Devs moving wholesale away from Win32 is extremely wishful thinking.

They're going to be using it until Microsoft deprecates it, which is never.

 

[megarockexe]

WELP. This morning I agreed to let Windows 8.1 do it's updates from yesterday and it completely borked my computer. I get the "Recovery. Your pc couldn't start properly" blue screen over and over. I create installation media, try to fix boot (nope), try to refresh (nope, hard drive is "locked"), don't have a system restore point. Oh well I figured, I will have to reinstall. OH WAIT, I can't reinstall using this 8.1 installation media and my windows 8 key (which allows the free upgrade to 8.1 but can't use the key to install directly because reasons.) And because my win8 key is an update key I will have to do a reg edit to even clean install that without installing win7/vista first, but actually think I had vista and not 7 before and who the fuck knows where that install disk is if I even wanted to do it legitimately. All this so I can just go win8>win8.1>win10. This will be most of my fucking day figuring this shit out. What the fuck Microsoft.

I hope they fix this shit with Windows 10, really getting tiring. I should be able to do a clean install even with an "upgrade." Require me to get the new key using the old key sure, but there is no reason to not allow a clean install.

Wait, why can't you just reinstall 8.1? O was able to do that using my 8 key and verified it with Magic Jelly Bean that it was the same.

 

[The Lamonster]

WELP. This morning I agreed to let Windows 8.1 do it's updates from yesterday and it completely borked my computer. I get the "Recovery. Your pc couldn't start properly" blue screen over and over. I create installation media, try to fix boot (nope), try to refresh (nope, hard drive is "locked"), don't have a system restore point. Oh well I figured, I will have to reinstall. OH WAIT, I can't reinstall using this 8.1 installation media and my windows 8 key (which allows the free upgrade to 8.1 but can't use the key to install directly because reasons.) And because my win8 key is an update key I will have to do a reg edit to even clean install that without installing win7/vista first, but actually think I had vista and not 7 before and who the fuck knows where that install disk is if I even wanted to do it legitimately. All this so I can just go win8>win8.1>win10. This will be most of my fucking day figuring this shit out. What the fuck Microsoft.

I hope they fix this shit with Windows 10, really getting tiring. I should be able to do a clean install even with an "upgrade." Require me to get the new key using the old key sure, but there is no reason to not allow a clean install.

ugh. This was hard to read. Thinking about every time my computers have died, 75% of the time it's been after a Windows Update. It's such a pain in the ass to 1) fix your shit and then 2) configure settings and get everything back onto a fresh install of Windows.

 

[Upsidedown Fuji]

I really think the forced driver updates is for the insider builds only, it was after all a testing ground to fix things and make sure everything was working well for release - so it made sense to have drivers forcefully installed to.

I would not be surprised at all once the OS is fully out that the options that are actually in Windows 10 right now (there is options to stop driver updates just like in Window 7/8/8.1 - see below) to stop driver updates will stop them from being auto installed if you don't want them - I'd wager the auto updates are solely for MS updates once the full release is out (and auto driver installs are available if you want them)..

I opted out of the insider program already and my windows is activated. I think it's a bug that I'm experiencing. It is an annoyance but not a deal breaker. Hopefully it will be ironed out soon.

Edit: It seems to be working, mostly now. My intel video driver no longer auto updates from windows update but the elan touch pad driver still gave me an update but this time the update didn't flip my two finger scroll gesture. Completely uninstalling the driver and shutting down seemed to fix the issue in my case. Weird. My PC on the other hand is absolutely problem free. I am very pleased. I am glad I decided to sleep on the issue overnight. I probably would have wasted an evening trying everything I possibly could.

 

[LizardKing]

Wait, why can't you just reinstall 8.1? O was able to do that using my 8 key and verified it with Magic Jelly Bean that it was the same.

I have no idea why I can't, but I can't. I used my product key that was emailed to me from Microsoft when I bought the Windows 8 upgrade years ago. Works fine when installing 8 but not 8.1 cleanly. Others on the internet say the same.

 

[RadioJoNES64]

Is it really that much wiser to do a clean install of 10 rather than upgrade from 8.1? Unless there's a huge drawback I'd rather not go through backing my important stuff up and etc.

 

[The Cowboy]

Is it really that much wiser to do a clean install of 10 rather than upgrade from 8.1? Unless there's a huge drawback I'd rather not go through backing my important stuff up and etc.

Not really, some people just like that clean install feeling - even if its just a placebo (i fully understand sometimes a clean install is needed to fix issues). Upgrading is just fine, and if afterwards your not happy you can just reset the OS to factory default..

I installed Widows 8 onto my HDD, then I ran the upgrade to 8.1 when it came out, then i cloned my OS to my new SSD later and then ran the upgrade to Windows 10 insider, then each new insider build did an upgrade of its own until 10240 - and the entire OS is just as snappy as ever.

 

[dLMN8R]

Is it really that much wiser to do a clean install of 10 rather than upgrade from 8.1? Unless there's a huge drawback I'd rather not go through backing my important stuff up and etc.

Upgrades these days are essentially clean installs + data migration. Meaning that, unlike old upgrades back in the XP/Vista days, there's very little that's actually carried over from the old OS in terms of "cruft" or whatever.


Keep in mind that Windows 10 is an upgrade intended for your parents and grandparents. Hundreds of millions of people are expected to upgrade, who have never previously upgraded Windows.

The upgrades will be reliable, fast, and you shouldn't have to worry about bloat being carried over.

In fact, you're likely to have more free space left after the upgrade than before it.

 

[GJS]

I really think the forced driver updates is for the insider builds only, it was after all a testing ground to fix things and make sure everything was working well for release - so it made sense to have drivers forcefully installed to.

I would not be surprised at all once the OS is fully out that the options that are actually in Windows 10 right now (there is options to stop driver updates just like in Window 7/8/8.1 - see below) to stop driver updates will stop them from being auto installed if you don't want them - I'd wager the auto updates are solely for MS updates once the full release is out (and auto driver installs are available if you want them)..

I don't believe this option will or does apply to windows automatically updating drivers which are already installed as is being presented elsewhere. I have it set to not automatically install but it is still updating my Nvidia drivers.

I believe that option is just in regards to automatic installation of drivers when you plug a new device in, the same as it was in windows 7.

 

[Wag]

I plan on upgrading to a Skylake setup in a month or two. After I upgrade my motherboard/CPU I'll have to call up MS and ask them to release my key, correct?

 

[epmode]

I can't even fathom why MS wouldn't allow us to opt out of third party driver updates. Especially video card drivers! You know, the software that controls your card's fan and occasionally stops cooling when it should thanks to a borked update.

 

[sangreal]

I don't believe this option will or does apply to windows automatically updating drivers which are already installed as is being presented elsewhere. I have it set to not automatically install but it is still updating my Nvidia drivers.

I believe that option is just in regards to automatic installation of drivers when you plug a new device in, the same as it was in windows 7.

Yeah, that option has been around since like xp

 

[jay]

Very fearful of forced updates to drivers. If Nvidia made working drivers things may be different, but as is I have to stick to an old driver or else.

 

[Mechazawa]

So, forced Nvidia drivers are stupid and all, but the ones Windows pushed out to me were peculiar in that they fucked up my second monitor. My second monitor went black when Windows apparently automatically downloaded them and on reboot, started giving me weird graphical corruption, almost like there was some busted vsync or something on the monitor.

I deleted them and downloaded the latest ones on Nvidia's website and now everything's back to normal.

Maybe it was just an issue of of Windows putting 10 drivers on top of 7 drivers I had or something, but that's dumb. Don't do that Windows.

 

[dLMN8R]

So, forced Nvidia drivers are stupid and all, but the ones Windows pushed out to me were peculiar in that they fucked up my second monitor. My second monitor went black when Windows apparently automatically downloaded them and on reboot, started giving me weird graphical corruption, almost like there was some busted vsync or something on the monitor.

I deleted them and downloaded the latest ones on Nvidia's website and now everything's back to normal.

Maybe it was just an issue of of Windows putting 10 drivers on top of 7 drivers I had or something, but that's dumb. Don't do that Windows.

No, there was a bug in the latest NVIDIA driver just released which caused problems until you rebooted.

Normally drivers can install and then everything's fine before you reboot (even though you should still reboot). In this case NVIDIA screwed things up until that reboot. The new drivers you installed from their site were a placebo.

 

[30yearsofhurt]

So will there be a way to do a clean install without upgrading my win 7 install?

 

[23qwerty]

No, there was a bug in the latest NVIDIA driver just released which caused problems until you rebooted.

Normally drivers can install and then everything's fine before you reboot (even though you should still reboot). In this case NVIDIA screwed things up until that reboot. The new drivers you installed from their site were a placebo.

I'm having the exact same issue and rebooting does nothing. Reinstalling the nvidia drivers works temporarily, but then windows fucking auto installs the windows update drivers again.

 

[MultiCore]

So will there be a way to do a clean install without upgrading my win 7 install?

No, not that we've been told.

I'm having the exact same issue and rebooting does nothing. Reinstalling the nvidia drivers works temporarily, but then windows fucking auto installs the windows update drivers again.

What card do you have?

I'm on a 780ti, no problems.

 

[23qwerty]

No, not that we've been told.


What card do you have?

I'm on a 780ti, no problems.

970

 

[Syriel]

I really think the forced driver updates is for the insider builds only, it was after all a testing ground to fix things and make sure everything was working well for release - so it made sense to have drivers forcefully installed to.

I would not be surprised at all once the OS is fully out that the options that are actually in Windows 10 right now (there is options to stop driver updates just like in Window 7/8/8.1 - see below) to stop driver updates will stop them from being auto installed if you don't want them - I'd wager the auto updates are solely for MS updates once the full release is out (and auto driver installs are available if you want them)..

Could be mis-remembering things, but I thought at some point it was said that the auto updates were mandatory in Win 10 Home, but optional in Win 10 Pro.

 

[Dmax3901]

Anyone had trouble with the GTA V launcher since upgrading?