The Lamonster
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I didn't know any of this stuff. Consider me excited to move from 7.1 to 10 next week!
I hope it's like Apple OS updates where all of your settings and file structure is still intact.
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I didn't know any of this stuff. Consider me excited to move from 7.1 to 10 next week!
I hope it's like Apple OS updates where all of your settings and file structure is still intact.
I just noticed the Windows 10 killer feature hasn't been mentioned yet:
The scroll wheel will work on whatever is under the mouse cursor, no matter which window has focus.
This is how it has been in OSX since ever and it makes writing with multiple windows so much better. It's a life saver.
The scroll wheel will work on whatever is under the mouse cursor, no matter which window has focus.
This is how it has been in OSX since ever and it makes writing with multiple windows so much better. It's a life saver.
The Lamonster
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omg no more WizMouse!
I hope so too. I just upgraded my PC with Windows 7 and don't want to reinstall everything again. According to the MS FAQ, everything should stay the same.
I hope you're not suggesting operating Windows 10 primarily through voice control.
So this comes out in 2 days and runs so slow on one of my older computers (E8500 thats like 8 years old?). Maybe a reformat would of helped, but if it updates to Win10 overnight, and the performance is similar to mine, I can see a lot of upset people. Takes minutes to load Chrome, Edge, Xbox app etc. Even after opening an internet browser, still takes another minute to click the address bar.
Doesn't help that everytime I restart, it tries to update, fails, complains about it, reverts to old changes, and repeats the process every time.
Doesn't help that everytime I restart, it tries to update, fails, complains about it, reverts to old changes, and repeats the process every time.
giant_frying_pan
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Woah. Mind blown!
Bubba_Sparks
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Nope, but the search function in general. Commonly used programs get put under a most used tab. You would also still have the all apps button to manually scroll through if need be.
Quick question: I downloaded an "older" version of Windows 10 a week or two ago and burned it onto a DVD. Since I have some free time now I thought I'd play around with the 10240 build a little bit, but I cannot download it from Microsoft. Is it possible to install my older version and update it to the 10240 version, will I have to do a clean new install in three days or am I not able to install the thing at all? Thanks in advance
Not biased at all. My PC boots fast enough using Windows 7. Windows 7 works and the UI is not inconsistent, even though 8.1 is only inconsistent at some times, like with certain MS programms that run as an "app". None of the "extras" were worth switching from 7 to 8.1 for me. My cheap Laptop came with 8.1 so i couldnt avoid it, but it only made things a bit faster. And it gets annoying when you hit the wrong button and suddenly see that metro bullshit that they wanted sell as a PC OS. I am glad that Windows 10 seems to correct most of the misstakes they made with 8 and 8.1 though.
I am so ready for 10.. bring it on. Hope the rollout is quick, I would like to upgrade asap on the 29th.
Now I am running windows 7 on a mac through bootcamp.. I got the icon and asked for the update ages ago. I assume I have nothing to worry about right? Default boot is to windows.
Now I am running windows 7 on a mac through bootcamp.. I got the icon and asked for the update ages ago. I assume I have nothing to worry about right? Default boot is to windows.
Live Free or Die
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hmm..for some reason im running an older build of the insider preview. When I check for updates it says my pc is up to date.
Maybe just wait 2 more days, guy.
I'm on the fence. My Win 8.1 is running great these days, almost hate to mess with it.
VincentMatts
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So this isnt in the windows update yet right?
Sometimes the update doesn't show up.
If you search around there are lots of tricks to try and get it to show, like clearing windows update cache, switching back and forth between slow and fast ring etc.
Just wait two days.
nocturnalis
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If you can't wait two more days and you screw something up, it will be your fault for having the patience of a child.
Prophet Steve
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So, what I said, mild inconveniences. Since I have set your default apps correctly I never accidentally get a Windows 8 app in front of me. Which is something I needed to do in Windows 7 too anyway.
Sure, if you don't care about any of that extras, that is fine, but see it sounds so silly when you wonder how people think Windows 8.1/8 is genuinely better. The inconveniences you won't see for 99% of the time you are spending on your PC and the benefits are numerous. Also it is not only boot times, but general performance improvements.
Oh yeah, I'm not using Windows 10 yet so I forgot about that feature, but considering I had to use a separate application for that, it is amazing. I wonder if it works if I have one window partially covered by a different one and whether it stays behind or gets pulled to front.
It stays behind it, just tried.
Prophet Steve
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It already pretty much stayed the same if you upgraded to Windows 8 I think. Only the settings needed to be reconfigured.
Sweet.
Same thing can be said in two days when something's wrong with the release (and there's never been a release where everything was good right off the bat).
Live Free or Die
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No indication that we will get anything different to what is available now in two more days, certainly won't get it through windows update in two days as it is phased anyway.
velociraptor
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I have a 250gb SSD and a 1TB HDD on my Windows 8.1 PC.
I've set up the installation so that everything (e.g. user profile) is on my 1TB HDD (E:\), but the Windows installation (and some important programs that I often use) is on the SSD (C:\).
If I upgrade to W10, will it ruin this setup I have?
I've set up the installation so that everything (e.g. user profile) is on my 1TB HDD (E:\), but the Windows installation (and some important programs that I often use) is on the SSD (C:\).
If I upgrade to W10, will it ruin this setup I have?
The folders you have on E:\ will still be there but Windows 10 may well create new user folders etc. on C:\ during the install.
You can just change them back:
You won't. Upgrade offers are exactly that, an upgrade offer. You'll still need to upgrade Windows even if you had an ISO and if you don't, you can reset within Windows to get a clean install.
If they do offer an ISO, it won't be day 1 for the phased rollout.
What is more likely?
Rolling out a whole new build for Wednesday, or using the same build everyone else has and is being installed on OEM machines? All they then need to do is put all the updates together as a day 1 patch, which is what is going to happen with OEM.
The install already prompts you to download current updates before it even starts, to get the build up to the latest patches available.
velociraptor
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The folders you have on E:\ will still be there but Windows 10 may well create new user folders etc. on C:\ during the install.
You can just change them back:
Hmm ok. I think it's probably better if I do a clean install and set the user profile on my E:\ in that case.
Windows wastes a lot of unnecessary space by putting the user profile on the SSD.
I never said a whole new build would be available.
But you're not familiar with how the upgrade process works - and that's OK. I am deeply familiar with it, because I work on it.
My entire point is that any fixes completed between now and two days from now will be automatically downloaded and integrated directly into the upgrade image before that image is ever applied to peoples' computers. So yes there is a difference between people upgrading now and people upgrading on July 29th.
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Seeing as you work on Windows 10, can you give us any insight on the forced 3rd party updates? It's something a lot of us don't like.
What people don't like is reasonable.
The disconnect is between what people don't like and what will actually happen once Windows 10 releases on July 29th.
People are incorrectly conflating a mistaken botched driver release to Insiders running prerelease software as being representative of what will actually happen to people once hundreds of millions are running Windows 10.
I posted in another thread about this earlier: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172837448&postcount=1282
A voice of reason amidst the cacophony of ignorance.
Now please tell these plebes to hold off on upgrading until the official ISO is out on Wednesday.
People have to remember that no one cares more about not releasing botched updates than Microsoft themselves. That includes driver updates. Customer support is incredibly expensive to run, ignoring the obvious other aspects like PR problems and a negative image dissuading people from continuing to use Microsoft products in the future.
Enabling people to opt-out of driver updates is not the (or 'a') solution, since the vast majority of people never do that anyway.
When you release a new driver to millions of people, and that driver is botched, it's not right to say "well you should have turned automatic driver updates off". Because 90%+ are still screwed. Instead, it's on Microsoft to fix it and make sure it never happens again.
Enabling people to opt-out of driver updates is not the (or 'a') solution, since the vast majority of people never do that anyway.
When you release a new driver to millions of people, and that driver is botched, it's not right to say "well you should have turned automatic driver updates off". Because 90%+ are still screwed. Instead, it's on Microsoft to fix it and make sure it never happens again.
I understand that, and I presume this is what the available upgrade already does from what I have seen.
I didn't have any pending updates after my upgrade as I chose the option to check for updates before the upgrade.
If that is the case, then it is either upgrade early and get all the updates to date, and then install the others as they are rolled out on windows update in the next 2 days+.
Or wait two days and install all updates up to the 29th as it is upgraded, and then only have post-release updates to install as they are rolled out on windows update.
The Lamonster
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Will I be able to "remote play" Xbox One on my computer when I upgrade to Windows 10?
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Thanks for responding. I've been saving myself for the 29th as per your suggestion, so I'm going into Windows 10 without any hands on experience so all I have to go on is other people's word and the forced updates do scare me, but it's reassuring to know what we get on the 29th and beyond is most likely going to be a much more finessed solution than what we've seen from the earlier builds. I have to say I've never been this hyped for an OS, it's actually odd how much I'm looking forward to formatting on Wednesday, I just hope those ISOs are up and ready day one!
I agree, but what are they going to do? Technically, the Nvidia driver updated in Windows Update in 7 and 8, but slowly as it waited for a fully updated version. Now they get the actual latest driver, but it's only as tested as Nvidia wants it to be.
They probably should go back to the slow version. People who don't download the latest driver for games just want it to work and don't need what they're getting now.
Yup
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The thing for me is I never install all the extras that come with the Nvidia software, so I'd like an option to still do a custom install which apparently isn't possible ATM.
Yeah, so if they went back to the 7/8 way, it'd never update if you've got newer drivers.
Ingueferroque
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How do I re-do the performance analysis that the Windows 10 upgrade app performs? Mine ran a check when I was using virtualization software, and now tells me my video card isn't up to snuff. (It is)
Been using Windows 7 for around 6 years now. Skipped 8 and 8.1 and feel that Windows 10 will become my main new OS. I'll definitely be trying it out. Not sure if I'll go for the upgrade this week or wait a couple of weeks and see how the launch goes.
Windows 10 definitely feels like the right OS to upgrade to going off of the impressions I have seen for it.
Windows 10 definitely feels like the right OS to upgrade to going off of the impressions I have seen for it.
Windows 10 is still in technical preview. There is no "old" driver for people to cling to, everything is pre-release. Whatever NVidia drivers are available on release day are going to be the first Windows 10 versions, therefore the "slow" path can only exist past release. No way MS will simply let NVidia roll out drivers into Windows Update without going through certification first. That's the entire point behind "WHQL" drivers.
I tried my worst to break it but couldn't yet. I used an ap for that too, a long time ago, but I remember one or other program that didn't play nice with it and had to set exceptions. It even works in the UE4 editor, where all the UI is custom made.
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