Windows 10 Troubleshooting Thread

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But aren't all these driver issues people keep getting a problem exclusive to the Home version of Windows 10? Pro users should be able to opt out until it's resolved, right?
 
It's clear now that, as the beginning of "Windows as a service", Windows 10 is a much bigger change than Windows 8. The start screen change is nothing by comparison. Anyone who hoped Windows 10 would be going back to something more like 7 is out of luck. There will never be another Windows like that.

If you want precise control over your own PC, that's gone forever. Windows is a service that will be in flux from now on. But unlike a web browser, you can't simply change OS at the drop of a hat. You'll be forced to build your house on the shifting sands of the Windows service, never at any time able to have a solid foundation. As long as everything MS does is great, forever, for every system, every user, and every type of use, I guess that's not a problem.
 
Every time I try renaming my connection or click on context menu item that has that little shield next to it (like Properties or Disable) in Network Connections, explorer stalls and restarts like this:

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Is this happening with anyone else? Literally anything I try to do in there crashes explorer.


EDIT: Apparently KB3074683 just released a few hours ago (downloading it now through WU) and fixes KB3074681 which is causing it.

EDIT 2: Problem gone.
 
SpasilliumX11 said:
Every time I try renaming my connection or click on context menu item that has that little shield next to it (like Properties or Disable) in Network Connections, explorer stalls and restarts like this:



Is this happening with anyone else? Literally anything I try to do in there crashes explorer.


EDIT: Apparently KB3074683 just released a few hours ago (downloading it now through WU) and fixes KB3074681 which is causing it.
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Was going to suggest powershell.

Code: 
Rename-NetAdapter -Name "Wi-Fi" -NewName "Waifu"

Or something.

Good to see the latest update solves it.
 
not psycho said:
It's clear now that, as the beginning of "Windows as a service", Windows 10 is a much bigger change than Windows 8. The start screen change is nothing by comparison. Anyone who hoped Windows 10 would be going back to something more like 7 is out of luck. There will never be another Windows like that.

If you want precise control over your own PC, that's gone forever. Windows is a service that will be in flux from now on. But unlike a web browser, you can't simply change OS at the drop of a hat. You'll be forced to build your house on the shifting sands of the Windows service, never at any time able to have a solid foundation. As long as everything MS does is great, forever, for every system, every user, and every type of use, I guess that's not a problem.
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That's the core issue. Microsoft has done nothing within the last 5+ years to earn that amount of trust. Even if Microsoft was almost perfect in every way and never did anything anti-consumer, they can't test every hardware configuration on the planet, so there inevitably will be an update that hoses machines.

That's not even to mention the amount of bloatware that Microsoft tries to push through Windows Update. If every update that I currently have hidden was forced on me I'd be livid. There is nothing appealing about a future of forced Bing Bar/Bing Desktop/"Microsoft Knows Best" Drivers/whatever comes next.

If someone actively wants the cheap, entry-level Windows then by all means force updates on those users, but for people that know what they do and do not want on their PC (i.e. "power users") have a version of Windows for them.

Incidentally, Home should be the former and Pro should be the latter. "Deferring" updates is not enough, if there's an update that I know I don't want, I don't want to "defer" it -- I want to remove the chance of it being installed on my machine completely. Removing choice is almost never the right solution.
 
not psycho said:
It's clear now that, as the beginning of "Windows as a service", Windows 10 is a much bigger change than Windows 8. The start screen change is nothing by comparison. Anyone who hoped Windows 10 would be going back to something more like 7 is out of luck. There will never be another Windows like that.

If you want precise control over your own PC, that's gone forever. Windows is a service that will be in flux from now on. But unlike a web browser, you can't simply change OS at the drop of a hat. You'll be forced to build your house on the shifting sands of the Windows service, never at any time able to have a solid foundation. As long as everything MS does is great, forever, for every system, every user, and every type of use, I guess that's not a problem.
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So what have we lost precise control over ?
 
epmode said:
Eh, only the 3D Vision and HD audio stuff. I guess bloatware isn't the right word when we have terrabytes of HDD space and >= 16GB of RAM.

But still, keep Windows Update away from forced third party driver updates. Shit can go wrong in so many ways and now there's no way to go back if something breaks.
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How do you do that in Windows 10?
 
So of I was a Win10 insider on my laptop, will I be able to upgrade to Win10 day one on my desktop since I'm logged into Win8.1 with my Microsoft account used with Insider?
 
FaintDeftone said:
So of I was a Win10 insider on my laptop, will I be able to upgrade to Win10 day one on my desktop since I'm logged into Win8.1 with my Microsoft account used with Insider?
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Unless you reserved 10 on your desktop as well, don't bet on this.

Also, with the aforementioned phased rollout, you never know when exactly you'll get it.

I'm sure there will be a manual upgrade installer available at some point soon though.
 
Yeah, there's no way I'm upgrading my main work pc from 7 to 10 any time soon. Perhaps after the first major update pack aka SP1. I think this is the first time I've been on the same Windows installation for over 2 years. Work life got serious...
 
GAF, I have a question.

I have a windows 8.1 Dell Laptop that's only a few months old.

It's divided up into 5 partitions:

  • C: drive
  • 500MB partition labeled (EFI System Partition)
  • 40MB partition labeled (OEM Partition)
  • 750MB partition labeled (Recovery Partition)
  • 7.41 GB partition labeled (Recovery Partition)


Assuming I want to do a clean install of windows 10 and NEVER go back to windows 8.1 can I delete those 3 partitions, the OEM and recovery partitions? I'm also assuming I shouldn't touch the EFI partition.

I just don't want to have any un-needed Dell OEM windows 8.1 partitions lingering about after I've moved onto Windows 10.
 
CDX said:
GAF, I have a question.

I have a windows 8.1 Dell Laptop that's only a few months old.

It's divided up into 5 partitions:

  • C: drive
  • 500MB partition labeled (EFI System Partition)
  • 40MB partition labeled (OEM Partition)
  • 750MB partition labeled (Recovery Partition)
  • 7.41 GB partition labeled (Recovery Partition)


Assuming I want to do a clean install of windows 10 and NEVER go back to windows 8.1 can I delete those 3 partitions, the OEM and recovery partitions? I'm also assuming I shouldn't touch the EFI partition.

I just don't want to have any un-needed Dell OEM windows 8.1 partitions lingering about after I've moved onto Windows 10.
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Yep. If you're not going back to 8, kill 'em.

I would strongly suggest you test Windows 10 for awhile before you do. But it can certainly be done safely.
 
So dudes I've got a million custom things in my PATH env variable for a variety of programming reasons, will upgrading from 8.1 to 10 fuck with this?
 
Tathanen said:
So dudes I've got a million custom things in my PATH env variable for a variety of programming reasons, will upgrading from 8.1 to 10 fuck with this?
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Couldn't you just make a copy of what you've got in there and re-apply it if something were to go wrong?

Aren't you a programmer? ;)
 
claviertekky said:
No since the 29th most likely will have the latest revision. Same starting build but different revision number.
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But basically when you get the latest updates, you'll be the same as everyone else right?
Was thinking of just going ahead and doing an upgrade then clean install/reset on my main Lenovo laptop with the 10240 iso. All my important files are already backed up.
 
im not gettin even the prompt to get W10 on my home PC for some reason

but I do get it on an old HP Pavilion dv5 that I have

wonder if I should bother.. pretty old lappy. i3 2.26ghz and 4gigs of ram


edit: from w7 btw
 
SalsaShark said:
im not gettin even the prompt to get W10 on my home PC for some reason

but I do get it on an old HP Pavilion dv5 that I have

wonder if I should bother.. pretty old lappy. i3 2.26ghz and 4gigs of ram


edit: from w7 btw
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I got it on both my windows 7 starter netbook and my 8.1 laptop. I guess there's an exe you can run if you really want to see it. I'll be updating the netbook just to test things out, and that runs at 1.5Ghz with 2GB of ram lol. I'm not doing my laptop until the driver thing gets sorted out (if ever). 8.1 runs well enough for me so far, with only a few minor bugs
 
SirMossyBloke said:
Only thing that pisses me off is since Windows 10 the Netflix app sometimes freezes the video while the audio continues and so does YouTube. It's been an issue for about 3 weeks now.

Plus my color settings keep changing to RGB instead of 4.4.4. That could be Nvidia drivers though.
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Isn't RGB 4:4:4 itself?
 
I have a question. Lets say I reserve a copy of Windows 10 now, do I have to upgrade from windows 8.1 as soon as I get the prompt or can I wait a couple of weeks?
 
XBP said:
I have a question. Lets say I reserve a copy of Windows 10 now, do I have to upgrade from windows 8.1 as soon as I get the prompt or can I wait a couple of weeks?
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I believe it downloads and you just choose when to install it.

Edit: ^^^that too
 
I'm gonna be waiting until they sort this mess with shitty Nvidia drivers getting auto-installed repeatedly. I've got an Nvidia card and I run dual monitors. Don't really want to deal with some of the stuff I've been reading in this thread. Really excited for the new OS overall though.
 
Got a question. I have sym links set up on my W8.1 desktop and W7 laptop. When I upgrade them, will they be kept? I basically have my documents, music, videos, desktop, etc. Linking to locations on my D drive to save space on the SSD.
 
AmethystEnd said:
I'm gonna be waiting until they sort this mess with shitty Nvidia drivers getting auto-installed repeatedly. I've got an Nvidia card and I run dual monitors. Don't really want to deal with some of the stuff I've been reading in this thread. Really excited for the new OS overall though.
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But they did resolve it today between new fixed drivers from nVidia and a patch from MS that stops driver auto-installs.
 
AmethystEnd said:
An official patch, or that workaround that got posted?
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There's an official MS KB file that got posted, but I wouldn't use it for the NVidia driver. It stops it from installing and uninstalls your current driver to get ready, then fails on the install requiring a reboot.
 
Just installed the RTM build. Install went smoothly, and everything's working.

I haven't had the chance to really explore yet.
 
AmethystEnd said:
An official patch, or that workaround that got posted?
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Hasney said:
There's an official MS KB file that got posted, but I wouldn't use it for the NVidia driver. It stops it from installing and uninstalls your current driver to get ready, then fails on the install requiring a reboot.
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Well, you uninstall the driver first, then use the KB patch to block the driver update, then you can install whichever version you want and it won't get overridden.

FWIW, the new nVidia driver released fixed the issues (most?) people were having with the previous bad version.

Quick said:
Just installed the RTM build. Install went smoothly, and everything's working.

I haven't had the chance to really explore yet.
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Ditto. It was a lot better than even last week. My PowerDVD blu-ray issues have been fixed. Now all that's left for me is network priority not saving.

That and for some reason this time I can't set the Westher app on the lock screen when I could for the last several weeks :-/
 
Giolon said:
Well, you uninstall the driver first, then use the KB patch to block the driver update, then you can install whichever version you want and it won't get overridden.

FWIW, the new nVidia driver released fixed the issues (most?) people were having with the previous bad version.
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No, because next time there's a new NVidia driver as well, it'll uninstall the driver again trying to install, so it's not a permanent solution.
 
I have a new ~6GB folder at C:\$Windows.~BT

It has a setup file in but errors out when launched. I guess it's still downloading.

I'm on 8.1 btw.
 
Hasney said:
No, because next time there's a new NVidia driver as well, it'll uninstall the driver again trying to install, so it's not a permanent solution.
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That's true, but I meant it won't get overridden by the one that you blocked. Future new driver updates will install until you block them :-/

This one of the things that still has me most wary about Win 10, but I'm ready to leave 8 behind.
 
N.A said:
I have a new ~6GB folder at C:\$Windows.~BT

It has a setup file in but errors out when launched. I guess it's still downloading.

I'm on 8.1 btw.
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Just checked and I have one that is 2.8GB right now. 8.1N here.

Edit: Wait, nope. It was just there while I was trying out the iso install again.
 
Is there a way to force Windows 7 to download Windows 10? I've done the thing online that's supposed to get the Get Windows 10 app to show up in the task bar earlier today, but it's not there.
 
firehawk12 said:
Is there a way to force Windows 7 to download Windows 10? I've done the thing online that's supposed to get the Get Windows 10 app to show up in the task bar earlier today, but it's not there.
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if you've downloaded the most recent updates, you might have to wait a day or two for it to pop up.
 
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