Windows 10 Troubleshooting Thread

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N.A said:
I have a new ~6GB folder at C:\$Windows.~BT

It has a setup file in but errors out when launched. I guess it's still downloading.

I'm on 8.1 btw.
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I have that folder also at the same size on W7 but it was created on July 10th. Updated an hour ago when I checked it. O_o
 
Does anyone else have problems with a second monitor? My second display randomly loses signal and I'm not sure if it's broken or if it's Window's fault.
 
wrowa said:
Does anyone else have problems with a second monitor? My second display randomly loses signal and I'm not sure if it's broken or if it's Window's fault.
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I've been experiencing this as well. As far as I can understand, it has to do with my NVIDIA driver messing up when the displays are being put to sleep.

Happens pretty rarely though. Latest Windows 10 preview build.

Restarting resolves it.
 
glaurung said:
I've been experiencing this as well. As far as I can understand, it has to do with my NVIDIA driver messing up when the displays are being put to sleep.

Happens pretty rarely though. Latest Windows 10 preview build.
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Same. Just happened yesterday. NVIDIA Drivers were gone by itself. So weird, then restarted and it was all good.
 
rakhir said:
Follow-up question: will it give me one new serial, for win 10?
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You get a generic key. You'll likely never need it, but if you ever need to do a full reinstall, you bung that in and your activation is stored with MS, so it'll activate with that key once signed into your MS account.
 
If Microsoft doesn't allow us to disable automatic updates, I'm definitely going back to 8.1. lol This shit is annoying.
 
Nvidia has been constantly updating their drivers through Windows Update over the last couple of weeks. I once had Windows 10 actively install the driver whilst I was playing a freaking game.

Deferring auto updates needs to come back. Now.
 
Hasney said:
You get a generic key. You'll likely never need it, but if you ever need to do a full reinstall, you bung that in and your activation is stored with MS, so it'll activate with that key once signed into your MS account.
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WIll it work if i upgrade my comp significantly? I'm talking motherboard+CPU change, I'm currently planning to do that.

Thanks for answers.
 
I signed up for this a while back, but I'm unsure if I'll have enough space on my SSD. How much space is required to download this, by chance?

I think I have around 20GB free at the moment. And once 10 is installed, does it take up less space than 7?

Thanks.
 
This will be a week of fresh experience.

Going to install Cyanogenmod on my Moto X and I'm going all in on Windows 10. I hope everything transfers well.
 
dLMN8R said:
People have to remember that no one cares more about not releasing botched updates than Microsoft themselves. That includes driver updates. Customer support is incredibly expensive to run, ignoring the obvious other aspects like PR problems and a negative image dissuading people from continuing to use Microsoft products in the future.

Enabling people to opt-out of driver updates is not the (or 'a') solution, since the vast majority of people never do that anyway.

When you release a new driver to millions of people, and that driver is botched, it's not right to say "well you should have turned automatic driver updates off". Because 90%+ are still screwed. Instead, it's on Microsoft to fix it and make sure it never happens again.
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My concern isn't with things that are dramatically botched on new hardware, but rather with hardware makers arbitrarily declaring hardware to be "legacy" and then not caring if they break features via product-line-wide universal driver updates.

This scenario:
  1. Hardware A goes on sale in October 2015, with "Windows 10 compatible" on the box.
  2. In October 2017, the new version, Hardware B comes out, also "Windows 10 compatible."
  3. In January 2018, Hardware Maker declares Hardware A to be no longer supported.
  4. In February 2018, Driver 2.0 comes out that does awesome stuff for Hardware B but bad stuff for Hardware A -- technically it still "works" but in a degraded fashion compared with Driver 1.0.
For a specific example of this, 4:4:4 chroma subsampling over HDMI to HDTV on older AMD Radeon video cards has been broken for three (four?) driver revisions now, more than a year. (Ironically, the revision that breaks it added a 4:4:4/4:2:2 subsampling option selection to the card control UI, which I can only assume works on newer cards -- so they're fully aware of the topic itself, they just don't care about their older cards.)
In Windows 7 or 8, I can just keep using version 14.4, which works properly, so it's not a problem.

Basically, everything hangs on this portion of your other post:
dLMN8R said:
  • Gamers who install a special driver (whether beta, from NVIDIA, or otherwise) don't get overwritten with a driver published on Windows Update
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Because right now, that's not working right, so we're raising our eyebrows and wondering what's up.
 
PHOENIXZERO said:
If you replace your mobo you're gonna probably have to give them a call.
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Which really isn't a big hassle at all if it's the same as when I did it with W7 about 2 years ago. It was all automated and you just typed in some numbers on the phone and PC and it was done.

redlegs87 said:
I didn't find any file but when I got on my pc my SSD was down 6 gb of space and I hadn't downloaded anything either over night.
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It's a hidden folder in C:/
 
Are you just typing C:\$Windows.~BT into the navigation bar? I'm not finding anything on mine there. It says it doesn't exist... (sadface)
 
Xyber said:
Which really isn't a big hassle at all if it's the same as when I did it with W7 about 2 years ago. It was all automated and you just typed in some numbers on the phone and PC and it was done.
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i guess it should pose just enough of a hassle to people as to not abuse the system on some grand, automated scale ;)

mandiller said:
Are you just typing C:\$Windows.~BT into the navigation bar? I'm not finding anything on mine there. It says it doesn't exist... (sadface)
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i'd just use TreeSize
 
My $Windows.~BT folder didn't appear until I had Windows Update check for updates. It said it didn't find anything, but it started downloading in the background in that folder as soon as I did that.
 
Fliesen said:
i guess it should pose just enough of a hassle to people as to not abuse the system on some grand, automated scale ;)
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I don't understand how Microsoft can make it a free upgrade, yet still keep in the awful registration part. I have my virtual machines triggering me to reauthorize based on the smallest changes, and the same with my physical copies. All my Windows licenses are legit, so I have to jump through hoops anytime I upgrade.

Last significant change I made triggered Office to require a phone in. That failed and I had to speak to a person who told me my product key doesn't exist. I was reading it off a physical box that I bought at Best Buy. It has the holograms on it and has always registered fine when I phoned in, for several years. The guys suggestion was that I subscribe to Office 365 to fix the problem.

I know this is atypical but is still putting these burdens on the consumer sucks. When I heard about the free upgrades, I thought we were beyond this.
 
Kagami said:
Because right now, that's not working right, so we're raising our eyebrows and wondering what's up.
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That's exactly it Kagami. On my netbook there is a driver to change the volume and brightness using the keyboard, which also displays the levels on the monitor. Newer versions of that driver take up 25% of my tiny screen and change things by 10%. Good luck not blasting your ears with headphones or trying to get the correct brightness without doing it manually in control panel. Why should I be forced to deal some bs when I can just keep what worked originally? And what is so hard about making it optional anyway? Obviously they can do it by looking at higher versions of windows 10
 
Weevilone said:
I don't understand how Microsoft can make it a free upgrade, yet still keep in the awful registration part. I have my virtual machines triggering me to reauthorize based on the smallest changes, and the same with my physical copies. All my Windows licenses are legit, so I have to jump through hoops anytime I upgrade.

Last significant change I made triggered Office to require a phone in. That failed and I had to speak to a person who told me my product key doesn't exist. I was reading it off a physical box that I bought at Best Buy. It has the holograms on it and has always registered fine when I phoned in, for several years. The guys suggestion was that I subscribe to Office 365 to fix the problem.

I know this is atypical but is still putting these burdens on the consumer sucks. When I heard about the free upgrades, I thought we were beyond this.
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i would presume that after Windows 10, Microsoft will either dramatically change licensing (to some sort of subscription system) or make it free altogether. At least connect it to some sort of Microsoft Store Account system, instead of the ancient license keys.

i hope this is just some weird transition into a new era of you having windows licenses on your account and not on your machines.
 
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Hasney said:
Maybe, but it's still phased, so don't expect to get it day 1.

EDIT: N versions still aren't up on Windows Update, thinking they're going to be left in the cold tomorrow.
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i'll just make one of my work day a lazy day. hopefully i can extend the install to last at least 8 hours lol.
 
So I downloaded all my updates for Windows 8.1 (except for Skype cause...I don't have/use Skype). Am I meant to wait for a specific update to get W10?
 
MultiCore said:
Couldn't you just make a copy of what you've got in there and re-apply it if something were to go wrong?

Aren't you a programmer? ;)
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Well YEAH but I dont WANNA.

10 might introduce some new stuff there and I'd have to merge the two lists and man what a pain.

But good to hear that supposedly it's left alone.
 
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