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Windows 11 23H2 arrives on the 26th of September, with a focus on AI
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Do you remember when PC meant 'Personal' computer?
I remember.
A PC with this shite on it is far from that..
Topher
Identifies as young
If I do anything with Windows going forward it is going to be installing Tiny11 to remove all the bloat. Primarily because my gaming PC is dedicated to gaming. My regular use computer is a Mac.
Having said that, like others I'm progressively trying to move to Linux for gaming. I have Manjaro installed on another drive and am currently dual booting Linux and Windows.
Having said that, like others I'm progressively trying to move to Linux for gaming. I have Manjaro installed on another drive and am currently dual booting Linux and Windows.
winjer
Gold Member
So true.
Default Windows 11 currently has as much bloatware and spyware as those cheap Chinese phones.
It's possible to remove some part of all that crap. But MS just keeps on pilling on more and more with each update.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I'd willingly go back to buying my O/S if it meant all that shit would go away.
winjer
Gold Member
It's called Windows LTSC, but MS doesn't sell it to consumers. But there are key resellers that do sell it to consumers.
It doesn't have the MS store, Cortana, spyware, etc. So Xbox games and gamepass don't work.
Major feature updates are delayed by a couple of years.
It is a lot more stable and bug free than normal Windows 11.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Will that get rid of all the crap and not have to sign in with a Microsoft account also?
I know you can do it with local accounts but I think that locks you out of certain functionality does it not?
Basically just like it to be like XP / Win 7 where you registered with a 25 letter key and off you went.
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ManaByte
Banned
There are a lot of people who do that (or do stupid things like edit the registry thinking they‘re “improving” it) and then they’ll post about how the store is crashing or something without realizing they played themselves.
winjer
Gold Member
I haven't used LTSC in a while. But it didn't require an MS account.
StereoVsn
Member
Yeah on one hand I don’t want this to be turned on by default on my box. You just know MS will be tracking all of the prompts/responses in consumer version.
On the other hand I must admit I use AI daily in my workflow and it’s super helpful. Mainly ChatGPT Plus but also GitHub copilot and couple other tools.
What I really want is secure version of this that doesn’t share any info on my queries and results. Have to get either ChatGPT Enterprise or Microsoft 365 CoPilot for that. And it’s at least $30/user on the latter and no idea how much former is.
I might spring for Microsoft one as I already have M365 anyways.
On the other hand I must admit I use AI daily in my workflow and it’s super helpful. Mainly ChatGPT Plus but also GitHub copilot and couple other tools.
What I really want is secure version of this that doesn’t share any info on my queries and results. Have to get either ChatGPT Enterprise or Microsoft 365 CoPilot for that. And it’s at least $30/user on the latter and no idea how much former is.
I might spring for Microsoft one as I already have M365 anyways.
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Thank you.
Dream-Knife
Banned
Win 11 is garbage. If all anti-cheat worked in linux I'd delete my windows drive.
I do like Windows 10 though after it's cleaned up.
I do like Windows 10 though after it's cleaned up.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Doom_master1122
Member
I mean you can just install any main line Linux Distribution, install steam and you're golden. Linux has come a long way. Will you inevitably open a terminal at some point? Probably, but its not scary. Even on the Deck if you want to do anything to tweak the device, or anything that ISN'T steam, you'll probably be opening a terminal at least once.
Grab a second drive install a main line Linux Distribution and give it a try.
I've been a Linux user going on 3 years now, and I moved off Windows when they became FAR too bloated and Ad central for my tastes.
That being said, Whatever OS works for you best is what you should use. Sure there's a tad bit more work on Linux to do things versus windows, but that's the same if you moved off Windows to MacOS for the first time. Issues I have on Windows don't exist on Linux, but I also have very Linux based issues. Recently just recovered from an Nvidia driver issue that would have been a non issue on Windows, but sucks for me on Linux. However, a lot of my games get far better performance over here than Windows.
It's perspective, what you want to do, and what works best for you.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Native archive support is a big get.
Paint is actually useful.
And AI photos should be fun.
Paint is actually useful.
And AI photos should be fun.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Wow this update actually isn't half bad. Native support for .rar and 7z is a long time coming but I'm glad. This is why I keep saying win11 doesn't deserve the hate, it's changes are pretty good
twilo99
Gold Member
Most people have given up their privacy to social media platforms and Google a long time ago.. your smartphone does a much better job at listening and learning about who you are than Win11. Apple has done some good work on the privacy front, but even there apps are still able to get to you.
twilo99
Gold Member
The text selection from images is also very useful, I use it on my iPhone often.
winjer
Gold Member
Microsoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too
Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...
www.techspot.com
Seriously, Microsoft.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Wish they could make it so that people who paid for a license get no ads. That would be so much better than this BS, maybe Windows would actually start selling for the first time in 10 yearsMicrosoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too
Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...
Seriously, Microsoft.
squidilix
Member
Microsoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too
Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...
Seriously, Microsoft.
Trilobit
Gold Member
Got a W11 Lenovo laptop for studies and was a bit surprised to see that Cortana had been kicked out. I like to use voice commands sometimes so I hope that returns with the focus on AI.
Overall, and this includes Android, Apple and the rest, I feel like voice commands are still stuck in a near unusable state. It feels like those text adventures on 80s PC's where you have to guess what commands actually do something. But mostly you get "I can't unfortunately do that" or "You need to go into this setting and click this and that and this" or "I searched online for 'lower the volume' and found this:"
Hopefully ChatGPT and other AI can be incorporated into the OS and become intelligent enough that you won't need a manual for each interaction.
Overall, and this includes Android, Apple and the rest, I feel like voice commands are still stuck in a near unusable state. It feels like those text adventures on 80s PC's where you have to guess what commands actually do something. But mostly you get "I can't unfortunately do that" or "You need to go into this setting and click this and that and this" or "I searched online for 'lower the volume' and found this:"
Hopefully ChatGPT and other AI can be incorporated into the OS and become intelligent enough that you won't need a manual for each interaction.
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Comandr
Member
This. There is a shocking amount that "assistants" cannot do when you try to ask simple questions or commands with natural language. "Here's what I've found on the web about 'what is the temperature outside.' Would you like to hear it?" "Here's what I've found on the web about 'you stupid asshole.' Would you like to hear it?"
Save us chatgpt integration!
Fake
Member
Microsoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too
Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...
Seriously, Microsoft.
Glad I back to Windows 10. And if Windows 10 add this, will be back to 8.1
Kazekage1981
Member
Can anyone give me information on how to fully go AERO-TRANSPARENCY-ACRYLIC-GAUSSIAN BLURR on Windows 11? I want that to be implemented on the edge browser and file explorer. Does stardock do that?
It doesn't have to look or have the design elements from windows 7, but at least the full blown effect.
It doesn't have to look or have the design elements from windows 7, but at least the full blown effect.
Fake
Member
Can anyone give me information on how to fully go AERO-TRANSPARENCY-ACRYLIC-GAUSSIAN BLURR on Windows 11? I want that to be implemented on the edge browser and file explorer. Does stardock do that?
It doesn't have to look or have the design elements from windows 7, but at least the full blown effect.
Inside personalize options. Right click on the desktop area, personalize. There, you can enable transparecy.
Windows 7 aero glass is lightyears ahead of this one and a little reminder that IDK if the ability of turn transparence on require some version of Windows 11 or something graphics related, how integraded graphic cards will behave after you active.
If you don't find there, use the old Windows Control Panel.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Auto HDR is a good reason to upgrade.
Codiox
Member
ehm you can do that.
just yesterday i tested installing steamOS on a VM. works just like on the deck.
SteamOS iso
GHG
Gold Member
That's been my exact path as well since I've been building PC's.
Although considering the direction things are going I'm more likely to make a full transition over to Linux next instead of going to 12.
Fake
Member
IMO trying to search a folder/file inside your computer and get an online result is one of the dumbest things I ever saw.
Bry0
Member
Yes but you can literally edit 2 registry keys during install to bypass that. Ran it on a 2600k system that way.
As expected though the AI stuff sucks and doesn’t seem to leverage local hardware at all. Lightyears behind Mac.
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Denton
Member
Good point, however, I have a perfectly fine decade old panny plasma that still works like a champ and no desire to replace it, so I will be fine without HDR for a while yet.
Kazekage1981
Member
I think it's no longer called "aero" it's called acrylic and mica now for it to be used on file explorer. I also want it to be used on Microsoft edge. Check this out:
Lucie Goosey
Member
So far I haven't had any glaring issues. I do wish they offered more customization options for the task bar, and other things.
winjer
Gold Member
Windows 11 23H2 update is affecting gaming performance, but Microsoft says there's a workaround
An affected user, Anant Acharya, complained about the reduced performance on the official Microsoft forums. He says the problem cropped up on his 2020 HP Pavilion laptop,...
www.techspot.com
Burger
Member
Windows 11 23H2 update is affecting gaming performance, but Microsoft says there's a workaround
An affected user, Anant Acharya, complained about the reduced performance on the official Microsoft forums. He says the problem cropped up on his 2020 HP Pavilion laptop,...
These are normal things people should have to do when their computer updates.