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shantyman said:
Actually, considering the girth of your response, I would think you are the one who is mad.
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Such a well reasoned argument could only come from someone who describes Thurrott as 'astute'.

Anyway, this is a Windows Phone 7 thread, and I don't want to shit it up, so I shall bow out.
 
Burger said:
Such a well reasoned argument could only come from someone who describes Thurrott as 'astute'.

Anyway, this is a Windows Phone 7 thread, and I don't want to shit it up, so I shall bow out.
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To late for that...

Anyways Millennial Media released their ad SDK for WP7...

WMPowerUser Article!

Not that I'm a big fan of ads or anything, but we might get some more devs on board if they can make some money back with ad revenue.
 
The most disappointing thing for me is that Australia still hasn't got a Zune music store.

Which at launch was said to come this month, but haven't heard a thing since.
 
dream said:
I think it's because Leo realizes the flagship shows on TWiT are more entertainment than analysis.

Thurott wouldn't be so bad if, as Burger pointed out, he wasn't so randomly inconsistent. But I just figure everything he says is linkbait anyway.
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He really is the Larry King of tech journalism. You know going in that he's going to massage you even if you say the stupidest thing.

The only times I can recall him getting up in arms was Arrington being a troll and the girl from Austin with her conspiracy theories.
 
Firestorm said:
Chances of Samsung or some other company announcing HSPA+ devices at MWC on WP7? They have their "4G" Galaxy series coming for Android :(
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It's only 4g stuff on next works that already have "4g" stuff so I wouldn't expect much. I think once AT&T starts moving towards HSPA+ then we could see something, but I don't think that'll be till Spring.
 
Brettison said:
It's only 4g stuff on next works that already have "4g" stuff so I wouldn't expect much. I think once AT&T starts moving towards HSPA+ then we could see something, but I don't think that'll be till Spring.
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Gah :( Rogers has had HSPA+ since Fall 09. Just no phones to support it! Stupid AT&T holding the rest of the continent back.
 
t-mobile hspa+ is amazing but so far only the G2 and the my touch 4g use it. since the first update will have hspa+ support, you can all but guarantee hspa+ phones this summer.
 
oh, and if anyone whats to compare an app on android to wp7, go check out bitbop. it's so much better on wp7 with the metro ui.
 
Firestorm said:
Chances of Samsung or some other company announcing HSPA+ devices at MWC on WP7? They have their "4G" Galaxy series coming for Android :(
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They have hinted at it heavily

Brettison said:
It's only 4g stuff on next works that already have "4g" stuff so I wouldn't expect much. I think once AT&T starts moving towards HSPA+ then we could see something, but I don't think that'll be till Spring.
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AT&T said at CES that HSPA+ is available now and LTE is coming 2nd half of 2011
 
For some reason, I think I remember seeing pictures of the lock screen that featured more than just your next appointment. Can that be done, like the next two or three appointments?

Also, the kayak app is really well done. If we keep getting high quality apps like that, it would make my constant waiting for update news subside a good bit.
 
I wish stuff hit Zune Marketplace and iTunes at the same time. Its kind of annoying seeing that something is released on iTunes then hopping on Zune to find nothing :/
 
PG2G said:
They have hinted at it heavily



AT&T said at CES that HSPA+ is available now and LTE is coming 2nd half of 2011
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I know, but I just don't totally see it. Available really soon , but I think if it was now now they'd have a phone out trumpeting the service. Spring still fits into their idea of 1st half HSPA+ too. It's just not you know today.
 
PG2G said:
I wish stuff hit Zune Marketplace and iTunes at the same time. Its kind of annoying seeing that something is released on iTunes then hopping on Zune to find nothing :/
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isn't itunes drm free?
 
So, a potentially interesting app for basketball fans: NBA Scores Lite.

It's supposed to allow you to select a game and then push the score to you as a Live tile every minute. The comments say the push is beta right now, and there aren't any games right now to test with, so... we'll see.
 
PG2G said:
Yeah, but I have a Zune Pass
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oh okay I read you, me too and I love it. Yes that's annoying when something either hits itunes or amazon first, we usually wait days if not weeks (or never) to get it released to Zune.
 
Been playing around with my new Focus, and I so far Im liking WP7. Couple of newbie questions:

-Is the Facebook integration worth creating an account for it? (never had one before)

-Do the birthdays that you set in your contacts populate the calendar or do I have to manually enter them in as calendar events?

-My friends on Iphones cant seem to save pictures that I've taken with the phone and sent to them via text. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

-I've tried to keep up with the update news and I dont think I've heard anything on custom ring/text/alarm tones. Any word on that?

Thanks for the links, brotkasten. Gonna start messing with games and apps pretty soon.
 
I like the FB integration, but it's only as good as your friends list. If you have no friends then it's worth less. Also if your the person that adds everyone you've ever come in contact with which results in a 900 person friend's list yeah it sucks then too. Personally it was $$$ for me because I don't even have 100 people on my list so basically everyone on my list was someone I wanted on my phone anyways.
 
Brettison said:
I like the FB integration, but it's only as good as your friends list. If you have no friends then it's worth less. Also if your the person that adds everyone you've ever come in contact with which results in a 900 person friend's list yeah it sucks then too. Personally it was $$$ for me because I don't even have 100 people on my list so basically everyone on my list was someone I wanted on my phone anyways.
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Cool, thats probably how I'd handle it as well. My friends are always bugging me about having no Facebook anyway, so I might as well make a profile. Thanks.
 
Brettison said:
I like the FB integration, but it's only as good as your friends list. If you have no friends then it's worth less. Also if your the person that adds everyone you've ever come in contact with which results in a 900 person friend's list yeah it sucks then too. Personally it was $$$ for me because I don't even have 100 people on my list so basically everyone on my list was someone I wanted on my phone anyways.
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Does facebook integration require enabling the third party platform application in Facebook?
 
claviertekky said:
Does facebook integration require enabling the third party platform application in Facebook?
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Yes. FB for windows phone, but now that I think about it, that's if you want to use the app itself, instead of the built in phone function.
 
They fixed the bible app I was using. That dwindles down the number of apps missing that I was using daily on Android and iPhone. Honestly, if they could dramatically reduce the time it takes to open them, or even allow ar least two to stay in memory, I'll be a happy camper.
 
kilongs said:
Been playing around with my new Focus, and I so far Im liking WP7. Couple of newbie questions:

-Is the Facebook integration worth creating an account for it? (never had one before)

-Do the birthdays that you set in your contacts populate the calendar or do I have to manually enter them in as calendar events?

-My friends on Iphones cant seem to save pictures that I've taken with the phone and sent to them via text. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

-I've tried to keep up with the update news and I dont think I've heard anything on custom ring/text/alarm tones. Any word on that?

Thanks for the links, brotkasten. Gonna start messing with games and apps pretty soon.
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1. As was mentioned, really depends on your friends. But it's cool to have one hub to see your friends' pics, status updates, etc. And even if you have a HUGE friends list, you can set it so it only displays the contacts that you already have entries for (in your phone), so you don't HAVE to have a huge contact list

2. It DOES, somehow...I get emails from Windows live for the bdays of my friends and they show on my Windows live calendar when I access it online, but not on my phone. Any ideas, guys?

3. That's weird. I can save pics sent to friends and my friends can save my pics.

4. Nothing lately. Everyone assumes it will be added, but it hasn't been mentioned in any of the update news, no.

Fake edit: ah, regarding the calendars...in my Windows live, I have a separate calendar called "Birthday Calendar" that lists birthdays. Unfortunately, you can only have one calendar per account (i.e., can only have a single Google calendar, a single Hotmail calendar, etc.). Anyone know of a way to choose which calendar you want displayed on the phone?
 
VanMardigan said:
Anybody have an idea of what happened to Netflix and why it has disappeared from market search?
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Maybe netflix was that unnamed third party application that was causing unusual amounts of data usage and it was pulled to fix it.

it would explain the wide spread reports of phantom data usage.. considering that netflix came pre-loaded on a lot of WP 7 devices.
 
Robobandit said:
Maybe netflix was that unnamed third party application that was causing unusual amounts of data usage and it was pulled to fix it.

it would explain the wide spread reports of phantom data usage.. considering that netflix came pre-loaded on a lot of WP 7 devices.
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That's possible, although I have been using Netflix on my Focus and I don't have any "phantom" data usage so it wouldn't appear to be everyone using Netflix (if it is the culprit).
 
I've been averaging 1gb of data a month and I use it A LOT less than I did my iPhone which also got me similar numbers a month.

Phantom data usage? I had Netflix but rarely used it.
 
Netflix also stated that they're updating all mobile apps to remove the add-to-DVD-queue functionality. Maybe they're updating the Netflix app and in the meantime took down the existing one?

I personally don't believe that a third-party app has been causing this data access. Seems like it's too wide-spread and too sporadic to happen to be some third-party app that can't even run in the background.
 
ElNino said:
That's possible, although I have been using Netflix on my Focus and I don't have any "phantom" data usage so it wouldn't appear to be everyone using Netflix (if it is the culprit).
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My wife's focus doesn't either and she has Netflix.

Comments I've read online seem to point to HTC hub and Yahoo! Mail being possible sources of phantom data issues.
 
venne said:
My wife's focus doesn't either and she has Netflix.

Comments I've read online seem to point to HTC hub and Yahoo! Mail being possible sources of phantom data issues.
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Now that I think about it, it really could be the HTC Hub. I've had my data plan activated for two days now, and I've already gone through 20mb, even though I'm pretty sure I haven't used my 3g at all.
 
Well I'm using a Samsung Omnia 7 in the UK so no netflix for me and my data use is through the roof :-( Good thing I went with T-Mobile
 
A helpful link I found thanks to the Windows Phone Radio podcast:

Windows Phone Blog

There is now a weekly feature where they pick out the best apps of the week which is pretty cool. For example, there's a speed dial app called speedierdial that allows you to pin 8 contacts, allowing for two tap access to your most called contacts. Dead simple, but effective.
 
Today, I installed the Zune Player on my Mac via a Parallels Desktop Windows 7 VM. It immediately recognized all the files I have in iTunes inside the Mac filesystem. I've signed up for Zune Pass again (I missed it) and really I can't wait for the Zune team to release a proper Mac app.
 
Charred Greyface said:
Today, I installed the Zune Player on my Mac via a Parallels Desktop Windows 7 VM. It immediately recognized all the files I have in iTunes inside the Mac filesystem. I've signed up for Zune Pass again (I missed it) and really I can't wait for the Zune team to release a proper Mac app.
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How's the performance? Can you enable the premium graphics in the software settings? It's under 'display'.

btw, ultra short Microsoft survey about Windows Phone: http://twitter.com/#!/windowsphone/status/28663146977697792
 
brotkasten said:
How's the performance? Can you enable the premium graphics in the software settings? It's under 'display'.
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Yep, it was on premium graphics by default—I have a 13" MBA, 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo and 4 GB of Ram. The are some issues performance wise but I think those are due to the settings I picked for the Parallels setup. Parallels is duplicating all my files on the Windows VM i.e. my Windows desktop shows the same files as my Mac desktop. So whenever I'm manipulating files in Finder anything running in the Windows VM slows down. I'll have to change that but otherwise the Zune Player runs fine.

Zune is so much nicer to use than the iTunes, and the miniplayer mode shits on everything else (including the two mini players apps I've purchased for iTunes :/). A Mac version should use two finger scrolling everywhere (not just for some of the lists), and three finger gestures for navigating, but I can't think of anything else I'd change.

Edit: I filled in the survey and put down multitasking, more customization options and a mac zune app.
If Microsoft released a new zune player i would be very interested.
 
I just had a "wow" moment with my phone:

I had set up the wireless sync, but never had used it. So I had some new podcasts on the PC and a new album I downloaded on the phone (free with ZunePass, another little awesome moment from earlier in the day). I'm sitting on my PC playing some songs off of Zune and I have the phone in my bedroom charging, and I'm thinking "I should go over there and get the phone so I can sync this stuff up".

Next thing you know, the Zune software lights up at the bottom where the phone icon is, and yep, the phone pulled in the podcasts automagically while it simultaneously added the new record from my phone to my collection on the PC. I didn't know it just happened automatically like that, it's really mindblowing how far ahead this phone and Zune software are ahead of anything Apple and Android are doing in media management. I mean, there are apps I can cobble together on those other two to kinda get the same functionality. Kinda. But to have an experience so seamless and awesome out of the box with no effort on my part is damn cool.
 
Yeah my laptop is just not powerful enough. I tried getting the optimum settings on Parallels, then switched to VMWare (which turns out to be more stable, as always) but I still get the occasional slow down in Zune when doing some multitasking. Oh well, the Zune idle mode is nice enough for full screen... Maybe I should get a zuneHD. Those are going for under $100 on craigslist. Worth it?

A first step in the right direction
After two full days of meetings with various members of the Windows Phone 7 team, we couldn’t wait to share with everyone some results from these discussions.

Although a large majority of the content presented by Microsoft is covered by a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), which we voluntarily agreed to, we can say we’re genuinely excited by many of the forward-looking presentations. We can only hope they come to fruition as soon as possible.

To address our goals of homebrew support on Windows Phone 7, we discussed why we think it’s important, the groups of people it affects, its direct and indirect benefits and how to manage any risks.

With that in mind, we will work with Microsoft towards long-term solutions that support mutual goals of broadening access to the platform while protecting intellectual property and ensuring platform security.

In the meantime, a forthcoming Windows Phone 7 update will fix a bug that the ChevronWP7 unlocker tool took advantage of; the tool will cease to work thereafter.

To fill this short-term gap, we’re collaborating with Microsoft on an interim solution that will continue to support homebrew developments after the update. We will share details of this when it has been finalized.

In summary, we appreciate Microsoft’s outreach, genuine interest and involvement in this matter and we hope the community can understand we’re working towards a win-win scenario.

- Rafael Rivera, Chris Walsh, Long Zheng
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Charred Greyface said:
Maybe I should get a zuneHD. Those are going for under $100 on craigslist. Worth it?
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What would be the point of that if you have a Windows Phone? Unless you are dying for space, I don't see what the advantage of a second device would be. Playlists, smart playlists, and the fact that I listen to podcasts more than music helps, but with wireless sync and onboard, go anywhere Zune Pass, there is less reason than ever to worry about space.
 
VanMardigan said:
What would be the point of that if you have a Windows Phone? Unless you are dying for space, I don't see what the advantage of a second device would be. Playlists, smart playlists, and the fact that I listen to podcasts more than music helps, but with wireless sync and onboard, go anywhere Zune Pass, there is less reason than ever to worry about space.
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I don't have a Windows Phone any more and probably won't get another one until after the Mango update (or which ever update brings HTML5 support and multitasking) is widely available. Like you, I usually listen more to podcasts than music but the Zune Pass changed my habits and I really enjoy using it.
 
Sooo I just arrived in Norway from France, and wanted to upload pics of my trip from my Omnia 7.

As I don't have an Norwegian SIM card, I can't email myself the photos, or upload them directly, etc.
I notice I have forgotten my mini-USB/USB cable.. or I can't find it at least. No problem, my PC has a Bluetooth module.

What. WHAT? WP7 does not support photo sharing via Bluetooth? My dumbphone could do that five years ago! WHAT THE FUCK?

Oh well, I can create an adhoc network from my PC and then email myself the photos.
WPA2: could not connect to the network
WEP: incorrect password (the dozen times I tried, with passwords along the like of 12345678)
Open: could not connect to the network

What the fuck is this crap Microsoft? Seriously, this is fucking 2011, wake up!
 
MagniHarvald said:
Sooo I just arrived in Norway from France, and wanted to upload pics of my trip from my Omnia 7.

As I don't have an Norwegian SIM card, I can't email myself the photos, or upload them directly, etc.
I notice I have forgotten my mini-USB/USB cable.. or I can't find it at least. No problem, my PC has a Bluetooth module.

What. WHAT? WP7 does not support photo sharing via Bluetooth? My dumbphone could do that five years ago! WHAT THE FUCK?

Oh well, I can create an adhoc network from my PC and then email myself the photos.
WPA2: could not connect to the network
WEP: incorrect password (the dozen times I tried, with passwords along the like of 12345678)
Open: could not connect to the network

What the fuck is this crap Microsoft? Seriously, this is fucking 2011, wake up!
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Microsoft is following Apple's lead on taking away features our dumbphones had. Welcome to the future.
 
^ Fucking pissed off at them, how can you sink that low ><

http://www.ms-windows.info/Help/adhoc-connection-prompts-wrong-password-21805.aspx

I have run into similar problems on my Omnia 7. I want to be able to create an adhoc connection to an embedded WiFi module. I have configured my laptop to simulate the module's adhoc setup - static IP address, no authentication, no encryption
but after a small pause the phone says it cannot connect (not a password error).

I then tried running a DHCP server on the laptop and I was able to make the connection. I presume that WP7 will fail to connect if it is not able to obtain an IP address. This isn't a practical solution for me as I cannot run a DHCP on the embedded
module but you may find that if you enable internet connection sharing that you will be able to connect as this starts a DHCP server and will provide an IP address to the phone.

It's a shame that you cannot configure the IP settings for the connection. You can view them if you edit the settings but the relevant text boxes are read only. Perhaps this will be added in a future update as it would allow you to connect the
phone to other devices without the need for a router.
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Can anyone help me with this. Google isn't helping me =(
 
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