Hollywood Hitman
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Lol, no
With recent news of massive Xbox layoffs and game cancellations, we can now officially call it, The SECOND video game crash of 2022-2025
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Fbh
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-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.
OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.
OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
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RickMasters
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Honestly I see a lot of what MS is doing as acknowledging that consoles are not the future of gaming anymore. The way tech has advanced you can have the console experience in anything these days. Almost any smart phone is as good as a DS or PSP was on a technical/power level. Tablets even more so. NUC and ITX based PCs are looking slicker and more console like, powerd by steam OS and soon Xbox OS. These boxes are getting more powerful and may end up replacing consoles at the price points depending on if the likes of ASUS can match I build quality and reliability.
I lots of changes and the industry is having a hard time adjusting to it. Much like the music and movie businesses had their hard adjustments to make in the wake of streaming, and changes in peope habits in a post covid, economically fragile world that we live in today.
There will be more layoffs from other companies. Probably not to this scale because few have a workforce as large as MS in the first place.
Sad to see so many games get chances though. Especially Perfect dark. That game looked good. Everwild, we never really saw anything of, so it's hard to say if we were really missing out. All the same. None of this is a good sign for the industry as a whole.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
OP doesn't know what crash means .
People laughing at the OP but Microsoft really was attempting to crash the video game industry as we know it now & be the only company rich enough to survive in a time where people wouldn't buy games because of subscriptions.
Games selling so much on PlayStation, Nintendo & Steam was not in their plans.
They actually believed they was going to spend PlayStation out of business.
Games selling so much on PlayStation, Nintendo & Steam was not in their plans.
They actually believed they was going to spend PlayStation out of business.
metaru_geah_sorrido
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MS is just reorienting itself to be more competitive. IMO, Perfect Dark's cancellation means they probably have a whole new strategy to think about. The nostalgia wave from that "surprise Remaster" didn't sell consoles much for Micro$, which is funny, because they spent all this money on buying the company that made the original and presided over the remake! Maybe they increased their subscription sales.
Remember, they screwed up pretty bad with Kinect, that whole reinvent-the-wheel thing they tried back when, and they came back from that, sorta, I guess. I feel like Steam Deck and the PS5 are like, killing it. They lost out on the hardware somewhere along the way. I loved the Xbox 360, they have not had the same energy since.
Remember, they screwed up pretty bad with Kinect, that whole reinvent-the-wheel thing they tried back when, and they came back from that, sorta, I guess. I feel like Steam Deck and the PS5 are like, killing it. They lost out on the hardware somewhere along the way. I loved the Xbox 360, they have not had the same energy since.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
I can assure you if Sony was so healthy financially they wouldn't be full third party releasing games on Xbox and all of their tent pole franchises on PC.
They ate 350 million dollars because of Concords failure alone.
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RetroGamingUK
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RetroGamingUK
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Radical_3d
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When is that Driveblub 2 coming? Before or after Gravity Rush 3?
Fess
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Yes PC gaming will keep on growing, especially if Valve succeed to enter the living room properly, through Xbox and/or SteamOS. Cloud gaming could grow too but I'm not as certain on that.
Either way I just don't think this supposed Xbox train crash is a big deal at this point.
I lived through the birth and complete burial of Commodore, my alltime favorite brand. And I'm still here gaming as usual, I just make sure to still have working Commodore computers.
If Microsoft outright say that they're closing their gaming division, then it's over. Make sure you don't sell away your old consoles in that case, if you like their games.
But as long as they keep making and publishing games then at worst they'll be in software only. And that's no catastrophe tbh, you'll still be able to play their games on whatever other gaming device you own.
But as said. They aren't gone. Far from it. Coming years there is a big chance that you'll see more devices and software with Xbox logos than ever before.
I wish Commodore would've "died" that way. That would've been fantastic
And the whole industry crashing because of Xbox? lol nah
Mr Moose
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About Commodore. Looks like you're going to have to live though a rebirth as well.Yes PC gaming will keep on growing, especially if Valve succeed to enter the living room properly, through Xbox and/or SteamOS. Cloud gaming could grow too but I'm not as certain on that.
Either way I just don't think this supposed Xbox train crash is a big deal at this point.
I lived through the birth and complete burial of Commodore, my alltime favorite brand. And I'm still here gaming as usual, I just make sure to still have working Commodore computers.
If Microsoft outright say that they're closing their gaming division, then it's over. Make sure you don't sell away your old consoles in that case, if you like their games.
But as long as they keep making and publishing games then at worst they'll be in software only. And that's no catastrophe tbh, you'll still be able to play their games on whatever other gaming device you own.
But as said. They aren't gone. Far from it. Coming years there is a big chance that you'll see more devices and software with Xbox logos than ever before.
I wish Commodore would've "died" that way. That would've been fantastic
And the whole industry crashing because of Xbox? lol nah
PlayStaytion
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New solid IPs are basically a myth, the industry wants us to live in the past.
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At least it's going better than Hollywood and the rest of the movie industry.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Bro Sony is 100% fine. The PS5 generation is making them money hand over fist.
MakeMudosGreatAgain
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Another crash?
It's about time.
It's about time.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Terminally online people lmao.
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EverydayBeast
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Really glad Microsoft makes consoles, the criticism agreed upon is rampant trolling.
Dannyufcfan
Neo Member
No, it's not.
Dannyufcfan
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Sony and nintendo are doing fine, btw.
DevilHunterX0
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Relax, it is only the XBOX.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.
OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
Exactly! Xbox bros..... Just give it up. The brand is nuked. Come join us on PS5, Switch 2, or PC.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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This, Xbox bros are having a meltdown because Xbox is having a rough time.-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.
OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
MS/Xbox are the only ones struggling. Everyone else is making more money than they ever have from gaming.
The "gaming crash" is something that exists only in the minds of OP and Xbox bros that spend too much time online and need to touch grass.
RAIDEN1
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Yeah but that's one way to look at it, the other is that they made more money from PS5, than PS1-4 put together..
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
No they didnt, dont be dumb.
What the hell? I didn't say what you quoted
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
This isn't a crash. This is Microsoft being a bunch of greedy fucks. They didn't just cut a bunch of Xbox jobs, they laid off almost 10k people (after laying off 6k people a few months ago).
Not downplaying what happened, but Xbox being a mismanaged mess is not a reflection on the industry as a whole.
Not downplaying what happened, but Xbox being a mismanaged mess is not a reflection on the industry as a whole.
Matsuchezz
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ShadyAcshuns
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Problem is, they pissed it all away on GaaS and Bungie, and closed down Japan studios.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I wouldn't say that studios closing left and right is fine.
ShadyAcshuns
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Didn't he say just Western side? Haven't there been tons of layoffs for Western game studios?-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.
OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
Without physical media it's difficult to tell because they don't have to get rid of their stock in landfills anymore. They can just delete or remove their games.
Imagine how many Nintendo key cards you put into the E.T landfill ..
Not even close to a crash yet to many successful companies and Gaas. More like a paradigm shift or reckoning of poor management.
Imagine how many Nintendo key cards you put into the E.T landfill ..
Not even close to a crash yet to many successful companies and Gaas. More like a paradigm shift or reckoning of poor management.
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RickMasters
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+1 on commodore. My first computer was an Amiga 500 and I was the envy of all my school friends back in the day…. As if my sega megadrive was not enough! Fond memories of the amiga. CVG magazine….. movie tie in games by ocean soft that we all though we're great but mostly sucked ( though robicip and total recall will always have a fond place in my heart in the amiga. Ordering US gold ports of arcade games. I still remember my mom buying the US gold platinum bundle that came with Frgotten worlds, ghouls and ghostsYes PC gaming will keep on growing, especially if Valve succeed to enter the living room properly, through Xbox and/or SteamOS. Cloud gaming could grow too but I'm not as certain on that.
Either way I just don't think this supposed Xbox train crash is a big deal at this point.
I lived through the birth and complete burial of Commodore, my alltime favorite brand. And I'm still here gaming as usual, I just make sure to still have working Commodore computers.
If Microsoft outright say that they're closing their gaming division, then it's over. Make sure you don't sell away your old consoles in that case, if you like their games.
But as long as they keep making and publishing games then at worst they'll be in software only. And that's no catastrophe tbh, you'll still be able to play their games on whatever other gaming device you own.
But as said. They aren't gone. Far from it. Coming years there is a big chance that you'll see more devices and software with Xbox logos than ever before.
I wish Commodore would've "died" that way. That would've been fantastic
And the whole industry crashing because of Xbox? lol nah
, strider and some other capcom arcade games. If you didn't own Atleast theee bitmap brothers games you were not serious. Pysginison was psygnosis before Sony bought them out…..
Sorry you just took me down memory Lane bro! I do miss that amiga……. Oh and how can I forget that useless paint software that came with that I didn't know how to use? Point and click games like nightbreed…. I never beat it but one of my aunties did for me. I didn't understand how point and click games worked until I learned to play eye of the beholder ane xenomorph ( dunno if you remember those last two ….. but they was the game that got me intoRPGs along with OG Zelda and faxandu on NES, even though they weee pour and click, around that age I realised I was ready for more sophisticated gameplay ) I guess you could say I alway been more into action RPGs . Eye of the beholder was a little over my head for my 9 year old brain but once I got to grips with it I wanted more RPGs.
Hey amiga had some kick as shmups too, didn't it? Remember a game by pysginisi called 'awesome'? It had such a great visual style even if a little sparse. And we all remember how awesome speedball 1+2 and xenon 1+2 was. We need a bitmap brothers collection. With some quality of life features so they are easier to actually see the endings.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Quasicat
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I'm wondering why we need three console players plus PC, Mobile, and whatever the hell Google is trying to do. When the first crash happened there was what…Atari and Intellivision? I think it will be fine. Microsoft is going to try for the PC space again and games will continue to be made. Microsoft cancelled a few games, probably because they can see the unannounced games in the pipeline and felt the ones they cancelled were irrelevant. It does suck, but in the end all game companies are trying to get the next best thing.
AmuroChan
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I don't think you know what a crash means. One company f-ing up doesn't mean an entire industry crashed. Also, despite all the layoffs and canceled projects, MS still owns the most internal studios of any of the console makers, and will likely remain one of the biggest game publishers in the world.
Go outside and breathe some fresh air. Not every piece of news requires an overreaction of this magnitude.
Go outside and breathe some fresh air. Not every piece of news requires an overreaction of this magnitude.
MS isn't leaving though they're just trying to move in on what Steam has built over the years
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You sure? How much do you think they spent on Bungie? $75 Billion. LOL!
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
A new crash would be good, in the long run, because it would set a new beginning. It has gone way over the stratosphere the way it is now....how long can this crazy growing last? We have to constantly find and open new markets just to get by. I think we need to lower the bar a little.. We don't have a second planet to sell games to.
Radical_3d
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Ultralow35
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Wait didn't Sony shut down multiple studios, layed off 100 hundreds of employees and cancelled 10 plus games ??? What makes them any better then Microsoft