With recent news of massive Xbox layoffs and game cancellations, we can now officially call it, The SECOND video game crash of 2022-2025

-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.

OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
Its Over Mma GIF by UFC
 
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Why are you so desperate to seek approval from these forums. You must have countless bookmarks for your all-consuming obsession to make NeoGAF believe you're some kind of gaming news prophet.

How many hours a week do you spend on this crusade?
I don't need approval
 
Nah stop it. Platforms come and go, doesn't mean the whole industry is crashing. And Xbox isn't even gone, things may look dark but they have a new console coming and supposedly 40 games in the pipeline. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.



Honestly I see a lot of what MS is doing as acknowledging that consoles are not the future of gaming anymore. The way tech has advanced you can have the console experience in anything these days. Almost any smart phone is as good as a DS or PSP was on a technical/power level. Tablets even more so. NUC and ITX based PCs are looking slicker and more console like, powerd by steam OS and soon Xbox OS. These boxes are getting more powerful and may end up replacing consoles at the price points depending on if the likes of ASUS can match I build quality and reliability.



I lots of changes and the industry is having a hard time adjusting to it. Much like the music and movie businesses had their hard adjustments to make in the wake of streaming, and changes in peope habits in a post covid, economically fragile world that we live in today.


There will be more layoffs from other companies. Probably not to this scale because few have a workforce as large as MS in the first place.



Sad to see so many games get chances though. Especially Perfect dark. That game looked good. Everwild, we never really saw anything of, so it's hard to say if we were really missing out. All the same. None of this is a good sign for the industry as a whole.
 
People laughing at the OP but Microsoft really was attempting to crash the video game industry as we know it now & be the only company rich enough to survive in a time where people wouldn't buy games because of subscriptions.

Games selling so much on PlayStation, Nintendo & Steam was not in their plans.

They actually believed they was going to spend PlayStation out of business.
 
MS is just reorienting itself to be more competitive. IMO, Perfect Dark's cancellation means they probably have a whole new strategy to think about. The nostalgia wave from that "surprise Remaster" didn't sell consoles much for Micro$, which is funny, because they spent all this money on buying the company that made the original and presided over the remake! Maybe they increased their subscription sales.
Remember, they screwed up pretty bad with Kinect, that whole reinvent-the-wheel thing they tried back when, and they came back from that, sorta, I guess. I feel like Steam Deck and the PS5 are like, killing it. They lost out on the hardware somewhere along the way. I loved the Xbox 360, they have not had the same energy since.
 
Ha, they cancelled some live service slop

The whole forum celebrated that
I can assure you if Sony was so healthy financially they wouldn't be full third party releasing games on Xbox and all of their tent pole franchises on PC.

They ate 350 million dollars because of Concords failure alone.
 
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Honestly I see a lot of what MS is doing as acknowledging that consoles are not the future of gaming anymore. The way tech has advanced you can have the console experience in anything these days. Almost any smart phone is as good as a DS or PSP was on a technical/power level. Tablets even more so. NUC and ITX based PCs are looking slicker and more console like, powerd by steam OS and soon Xbox OS. These boxes are getting more powerful and may end up replacing consoles at the price points depending on if the likes of ASUS can match I build quality and reliability.



I lots of changes and the industry is having a hard time adjusting to it. Much like the music and movie businesses had their hard adjustments to make in the wake of streaming, and changes in peope habits in a post covid, economically fragile world that we live in today.


There will be more layoffs from other companies. Probably not to this scale because few have a workforce as large as MS in the first place.



Sad to see so many games get chances though. Especially Perfect dark. That game looked good. Everwild, we never really saw anything of, so it's hard to say if we were really missing out. All the same. None of this is a good sign for the industry as a whole.
Yes PC gaming will keep on growing, especially if Valve succeed to enter the living room properly, through Xbox and/or SteamOS. Cloud gaming could grow too but I'm not as certain on that.

Either way I just don't think this supposed Xbox train crash is a big deal at this point.

I lived through the birth and complete burial of Commodore, my alltime favorite brand. And I'm still here gaming as usual, I just make sure to still have working Commodore computers.

If Microsoft outright say that they're closing their gaming division, then it's over. Make sure you don't sell away your old consoles in that case, if you like their games.

But as long as they keep making and publishing games then at worst they'll be in software only. And that's no catastrophe tbh, you'll still be able to play their games on whatever other gaming device you own.

But as said. They aren't gone. Far from it. Coming years there is a big chance that you'll see more devices and software with Xbox logos than ever before.

I wish Commodore would've "died" that way. That would've been fantastic 🥰


And the whole industry crashing because of Xbox? lol nah
 
GAF are literally becoming YouTubers with this type of BS click bait titles….all they need now is goofy face for thumbnails and transformation is complete.
 
Yes PC gaming will keep on growing, especially if Valve succeed to enter the living room properly, through Xbox and/or SteamOS. Cloud gaming could grow too but I'm not as certain on that.

Either way I just don't think this supposed Xbox train crash is a big deal at this point.

I lived through the birth and complete burial of Commodore, my alltime favorite brand. And I'm still here gaming as usual, I just make sure to still have working Commodore computers.

If Microsoft outright say that they're closing their gaming division, then it's over. Make sure you don't sell away your old consoles in that case, if you like their games.

But as long as they keep making and publishing games then at worst they'll be in software only. And that's no catastrophe tbh, you'll still be able to play their games on whatever other gaming device you own.

But as said. They aren't gone. Far from it. Coming years there is a big chance that you'll see more devices and software with Xbox logos than ever before.

I wish Commodore would've "died" that way. That would've been fantastic 🥰


And the whole industry crashing because of Xbox? lol nah
About Commodore. Looks like you're going to have to live though a rebirth as well.

 
It's not crashing. It's more like it's just lost in the middle of nowhere, driving painfully slow, a wheel is falling off, fuel is getting burned quickly, and everyone in the car is yelling at each other over which way to go.

also there is no AC.
 
It's not crashing. It's more like it's just lost in the middle of nowhere, driving painfully slow, a wheel is falling off, fuel is getting burned quickly, and everyone in the car is yelling at each other over which way to go.

also there is no AC.
At least it's going better than Hollywood and the rest of the movie industry.
 
-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.

OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
Its Over Mma GIF by UFC

Exactly! Xbox bros..... Just give it up. The brand is nuked. Come join us on PS5, Switch 2, or PC.
 
-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.

OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
Its Over Mma GIF by UFC
This, Xbox bros are having a meltdown because Xbox is having a rough time.


MS/Xbox are the only ones struggling. Everyone else is making more money than they ever have from gaming.


The "gaming crash" is something that exists only in the minds of OP and Xbox bros that spend too much time online and need to touch grass.
 
This isn't a crash. This is Microsoft being a bunch of greedy fucks. They didn't just cut a bunch of Xbox jobs, they laid off almost 10k people (after laying off 6k people a few months ago).

Not downplaying what happened, but Xbox being a mismanaged mess is not a reflection on the industry as a whole.
 
Video games are selling more than ever.

The industry was fine when Sega had to leave the console hardware market. It'll be fine when MS leaves too.

Stop sucking Phil's cock.
 
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-Sony: Has made more money this gen than every previous gen combined
-Nintendo: Just had the most successful console launch...ever
-PC: Seems to be bigger and more popular than ever before, with steam just breaking their record with 40 million concurrent users a few months ago.

OP after MS has layoffs and cancels some games:
Its Over Mma GIF by UFC
Didn't he say just Western side? Haven't there been tons of layoffs for Western game studios?
 
Without physical media it's difficult to tell because they don't have to get rid of their stock in landfills anymore. They can just delete or remove their games.

Imagine how many Nintendo key cards you put into the E.T landfill ..

Not even close to a crash yet to many successful companies and Gaas. More like a paradigm shift or reckoning of poor management.
 
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Yes PC gaming will keep on growing, especially if Valve succeed to enter the living room properly, through Xbox and/or SteamOS. Cloud gaming could grow too but I'm not as certain on that.

Either way I just don't think this supposed Xbox train crash is a big deal at this point.

I lived through the birth and complete burial of Commodore, my alltime favorite brand. And I'm still here gaming as usual, I just make sure to still have working Commodore computers.

If Microsoft outright say that they're closing their gaming division, then it's over. Make sure you don't sell away your old consoles in that case, if you like their games.

But as long as they keep making and publishing games then at worst they'll be in software only. And that's no catastrophe tbh, you'll still be able to play their games on whatever other gaming device you own.

But as said. They aren't gone. Far from it. Coming years there is a big chance that you'll see more devices and software with Xbox logos than ever before.

I wish Commodore would've "died" that way. That would've been fantastic 🥰


And the whole industry crashing because of Xbox? lol nah
+1 on commodore. My first computer was an Amiga 500 and I was the envy of all my school friends back in the day…. As if my sega megadrive was not enough! Fond memories of the amiga. CVG magazine….. movie tie in games by ocean soft that we all though we're great but mostly sucked ( though robicip and total recall will always have a fond place in my heart in the amiga. Ordering US gold ports of arcade games. I still remember my mom buying the US gold platinum bundle that came with Frgotten worlds, ghouls and ghosts
, strider and some other capcom arcade games. If you didn't own Atleast theee bitmap brothers games you were not serious. Pysginison was psygnosis before Sony bought them out…..

Sorry you just took me down memory Lane bro! I do miss that amiga……. Oh and how can I forget that useless paint software that came with that I didn't know how to use? Point and click games like nightbreed…. I never beat it but one of my aunties did for me. I didn't understand how point and click games worked until I learned to play eye of the beholder ane xenomorph ( dunno if you remember those last two ….. but they was the game that got me intoRPGs along with OG Zelda and faxandu on NES, even though they weee pour and click, around that age I realised I was ready for more sophisticated gameplay ) I guess you could say I alway been more into action RPGs . Eye of the beholder was a little over my head for my 9 year old brain but once I got to grips with it I wanted more RPGs.


Hey amiga had some kick as shmups too, didn't it? Remember a game by pysginisi called 'awesome'? It had such a great visual style even if a little sparse. And we all remember how awesome speedball 1+2 and xenon 1+2 was. We need a bitmap brothers collection. With some quality of life features so they are easier to actually see the endings.
 
I'm wondering why we need three console players plus PC, Mobile, and whatever the hell Google is trying to do. When the first crash happened there was what…Atari and Intellivision? I think it will be fine. Microsoft is going to try for the PC space again and games will continue to be made. Microsoft cancelled a few games, probably because they can see the unannounced games in the pipeline and felt the ones they cancelled were irrelevant. It does suck, but in the end all game companies are trying to get the next best thing.
 
I don't think you know what a crash means. One company f-ing up doesn't mean an entire industry crashed. Also, despite all the layoffs and canceled projects, MS still owns the most internal studios of any of the console makers, and will likely remain one of the biggest game publishers in the world.

Go outside and breathe some fresh air. Not every piece of news requires an overreaction of this magnitude.
 
A new crash would be good, in the long run, because it would set a new beginning. It has gone way over the stratosphere the way it is now....how long can this crazy growing last? We have to constantly find and open new markets just to get by. I think we need to lower the bar a little.. We don't have a second planet to sell games to.
 
lol just because of MS is a fuck up, doesn't mean the industry is crashing . Both Sony and Nintendo are fine. MS are just fucking idiots and run by clowns . Nothing new here

All what Western devs want is entitlement . Work from home, spend most of the day do fuck nothing but cry about anti woke shit .

No wonder they are failing. Good riddance to be honest too. Hope they go flip burgers after this. 7 years to make a game with MS funding and you still can't get a proper alpha game out, you fucking deserve to get clowned and fucked
Wait didn't Sony shut down multiple studios, layed off 100 hundreds of employees and cancelled 10 plus games ??? What makes them any better then Microsoft
 
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