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With rumours of the 9800x3D releasing next week who is upgrading from Zen4?

StereoVsn

Member
That would make it an instant NOT buy for me. The whole reason I love the 7950x3D is the asymmetric core config. 3D cache cores for games that benefit from it, high frequency cores for the rest and non gaming tasks. It gives it the single core performance of the base 7950x which is noticeably higher than the 7800x3D, and sacrifices really nothing. It would be such a waste to have two 3D cache CCDs.
I think we need to see the results first. 3D cache can help a lot in certain applications as well, but just gaming.
 
I think we need to see the results first. 3D cache can help a lot in certain applications as well, but just gaming.
I'm not aware of any desktop applications that benefit from the extra cache like gaming does. And gaming physically can't benefit from dual CCD because then you incur a massive latency hit communicating over the Infinity fabric. It's not worth it and I'll be surprised if it outperforms a properly configured 7950x3D.
 

StereoVsn

Member
I'm not aware of any desktop applications that benefit from the extra cache like gaming does. And gaming physically can't benefit from dual CCD because then you incur a massive latency hit communicating over the Infinity fabric. It's not worth it and I'll be surprised if it outperforms a properly configured 7950x3D.
Complex calculations such as fluid dynamics, certain server workloads, compression and decompression and more are supposed to benefit from 3D cache.

Latency in 9K series is supposed to be reduced compared to 7K especially with new updates to Windows and perhaps Linux. Again though, we need to wait for benchmarks as this speculation is kind of pointless
 

winjer

Gold Member

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JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It’s premature to ask this question when we don’t have any real benchmarks.

I’ve seen rumors of it hitting 5.6 GHz all core….yeah I’ll believe it when I see it.


However if it does that, then it could be a decent upgrade over the 7800X3D
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
Just signed off a small form factor building for my front room / sim rig.

Corsair 2000D
9800x3d
48gb 8000mhz ddr5
Asus b650i strix
1000w psu
4090 founders edition from my main build which I'll upgrade to 5090.
4tb nvme
1000w off psu

Should be a beast for the front room on my lg oled.

Excited to build it.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Just signed off a small form factor building for my front room / sim rig.

Corsair 2000D
9800x3d
48gb 8000mhz ddr5
Asus b650i strix
1000w psu
4090 founders edition from my main build which I'll upgrade to 5090.
4tb nvme
1000w off psu

Should be a beast for the front room on my lg oled.

Excited to build it.
On my 4090 I hit 4K 120 in most games pretty easily. The 5080 might make more sense.
 

Sanepar

Member
Since I only play at 4k we are 4 years with kind of same perf. I have a 12700k and don't think we gonna see anything decent for 4k next 5 years.

Ddr5 is crap so we need to wait if ddr6 will delivery.
 
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nikos

Member
The main reason I chose AMD last year, after probably 20+ years of Intel, was because Intel was about to change their chipset and AMD wasn't.

7800X3D/4090 are serving me well. GPU upgrade is priority, so I'll probably upgrade the CPU sometime after.
 

Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
Just signed off a small form factor building for my front room / sim rig.

Corsair 2000D
9800x3d
48gb 8000mhz ddr5
Asus b650i strix
1000w psu
4090 founders edition from my main build which I'll upgrade to 5090.
4tb nvme
1000w off psu

Should be a beast for the front room on my lg oled.

Excited to build it.
Small form factor? Edit* let me know what you think of the 2000D. I avoided it for the one I built two months ago and couldn’t keep the temps down with the 4090 in there.
 
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sendit

Member
Small form factor? Edit* let me know what you think of the 2000D. I avoided it for the one I built two months ago and couldn’t keep the temps down with the 4090 in there.
I have a smaller Mini ITX case than that running a 4090 (Asus Rog Strix). NR200. My GPU temps don't go past ~75C.
 
want to for fun, but honestly its probably just a big ol waste of money for me
my 12700k/6400ddr5 is enough for 4k/120... cpu utilization is basically always under 50% and temps are 40/50C

9950x3d is sexy though

if the memory controller is really good that might be motivation enough
my RAM is rated for 7200 or something, but i can only hit 6400 @ 0 errors.
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
Small form factor? Edit* let me know what you think of the 2000D. I avoided it for the one I built two months ago and couldn’t keep the temps down with the 4090 in there.

You had issues with the 2000d?

I just want something I can easily move up and down stairs for my sim rig and comfy couch gaming.

I'll let you know how I get one but I'll be running a smaller gpu at first. Something like a 4070 ti super to tide me over until 5090 comes
 

hinch7

Member
My plan is to upgrade unless it's like a 5% bump
Around 8% in games > 7800X3D supposedly. Not too long to wait for reviews
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tylrdiablos

Member
I'm looking to upgrade my motherboard & 8700K... this has been interesting few days. No harm in waiting a little more I guess.
 
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