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Wkd BO 0324-2617 - Beasteality reigns, wee Life for "Teenagers" with attitude @ BO
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I just don't see WW and Captain Marvel failing, but we shall see in due time.
Do I believe that Taraji P. Henson is a bigger draw than Scarlett Johansson? Not even close, but she starred in a movie that appealed and resonated with a portion of the mainstream audience and that made a great return on it's investment. Nobody in Hollywood will conclude that Hanson is a bigger draw, just as nobody should conclude that women can't lead action movies. A couple of my male friends wanted to see Lucy in theaters because the subject appealed to them, but they don't care about Gits. These friends own an Xbox one, don't play Japanese games outside of Nintendo and give zero fuck about anime.
I just don't see WW and Captain Marvel failing, but we shall see in due time.
A couple of my male friends wanted to see Lucy in theaters because the subject appealed to them, but they don't care about Gits. These friends own an Xbox one, don't play Japanese games outside of Nintendo and give zero fuck about anime.
I am not saying that any of those female-led examples will fail (well, maybe Tomb Raider). They could lead to risk aversion if they all do fail though.
Lucy was a big success, but it was also pretty low budget, and therefore didn't have to try and be a four quadrant film.
It has grown to represent more than simply the films themselves. The original trilogy was massive when it was released and spawned an era of film branded merchandise like no other. The Star Wars world lived on through various forms of media and merchandise without the need for a new film. By the time Phantom Menace was released, Star Wars was strong enough to take the blow of a couple subpar films.
I honestly think it was AotC that truly got a cold reception when it was released. Phantom Menace and RotS hate kind of grew years after they were released.
The original trilogy is what fans still cherish so much and that won't change.
Dash_Riprock
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From what I remember it was the inverse: TPM was trashed the moment it came out, while for at least the first year or so after release AotC was seen as better than TPM because "No Jar Jar" and "At least its not boring."
Once again fans saw it in droves it on opening weekend while bad WoM keeps everyone else away.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Bad hold for Power Rangers. Seems all the free online advertising only amounted to a decent curiosity bump.
Jawmuncher
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Even so, I don't see the like's of ninjago surpassing the totals of Lego Batman or the Lego Movie.
Social media blitz to reach everyone possible. 100M OW incoming.
hodayathink
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I think what may end up being a better example of how a female lead can effect an action movie will be the BO takes of Atomic Blonde vs. John Wick vs. John Wick 2, as long as AB turns out at least decent. There'll still be mitigating factors there (i.e. Summer vs. February open), but I feel like it'll be a decent comp.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Those numbers are cheated to hell. They include Facebook and Twitter autoplays. Facebook apparently counts a "play" as 3 seconds.
That was my thought, too. Also, you can buy YouTube clicks.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Nah. You're right about AOTC getting a bit of a bump because it wasn't TPM and people were relieved (the narrative had become, by that point, "Kids Suck Jar Jar Sucks Suck Suck TRY SPINNING THAT SUCKS") but the Phantom Menace took awhile to become generally disrespected, though. There were almost no real outright negative reviews, although there were a few that were middling. Fan reaction was high for the rest of the summer. It was around fall when people started really going in on it, and by Christmas, the narrative had started to solidify.
What's funny is that this Alexandra DuPont review from a week before the film came out was, at the time, considered a massive outlier, and was basically discounted outright by many fans/readers.
It ended up being, of course, one of the more accurate breakdowns of the film and it's problems to be printed that year.
Razgriz-Specter
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So many people won't even give it a chance but man the cast was so good and enjoyable.
Pink's actress is definitely my pick for a low 20's Batgirl movie.
PhantomX1313
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Paramount is actually Doomed right now
It's why I don't understand this narrative about "bad" WOM. Surely my experiences were anecdotal, but every i've talked to in my daily life and around the internet enjoyed the movie and would recommend it to others if they had an interest in seeing it.
That said PR definitely isn't as big as it used to be, and you still have BatB doing it's run and now that Boss Baby movie launching. I do feel we're still getting a sequel. I also feel people put way to much stock in RT scores and they write off certain movies if it doesn't achieve their desired score.
But Power Rangers had good WoM...
Well, I just know that based on experience it's remarkably rare for me to enjoy a movie below 40-ish% RT. I recently saw both Independence Day 2 and Suicide Squad for the first time, both around 30 and lower and was actually pissed off with myself for not trusting it and wasting my time watching them. Two of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Sometimes they get it wrong, though. Power Rangers is at 47 and I really enjoyed it. Book of Eli is at 48 and I absolutely loved that movie.
It was pure and simple denial. The hype was so big for Phantom Menace, the problem had to be with us, right? So the early fan narrative was "the darth maul duel and pod racing were kind of sweet, right?" Which was of course a massive case of Stockholm syndrome that eventually wore off.
Mix Master
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YIKES at GITS, bombaland. That black widow flick definitely not happening now.
Atomic Blonde looks interesting. Perhaps I'll have to check it out when it comes. Need to upport action kino.
Atomic Blonde looks interesting. Perhaps I'll have to check it out when it comes. Need to upport action kino.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Paramount should of went after Berserk instead of GiTS and try to sell it as a GoT type movie...though I doubt they have anyone pretty enough to play Griffith.
cartographer
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I saw it this afternoon. It was disjointed and awkward at parts. Lot of the art direction was silly. But it was a lot of fun. Which is a hell of an improvement on some particular blockbusters in recent years.
And on top of that, it was actuallymoving. RJ Cyler was great in Me and Earl and the Dying Girl, and he was great here, too. And props to the writers and others in production who stuck with the choices for that character.
Was not expecting that at all.
And May is effectively summer in BO...wow.
She looks and sounds like buffy era Sarah Michelle Gellar
Freeza Under The Shower
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that's...not a compliment.
What, SMG was hot as in the early Buffy days. >_>
Damn, that review was spot on.
I can't remember the last time I actively rooted for a movie to bomb (okay, maybe BvS), but I'm enjoying watching GitS tank. Especially after reading about that ending, just burn that shit down.
Oh wow, Power Rangers almost matching GitS in its second Saturday.
BatB is a tad lower this Saturday than last percentage-wise. Boss Baby wins the weekend. $50M for Boss Baby and $47-48M for BatB would be my guess if those numbers hold.
Ghost in the Shell is looking at a ~$19M weekend if the Sat number is accurate.
Power Rangers had a decent Saturday given the Friday number. I would guess $14.5-15M for the weekend. Down 62-64% from last weekend.
Ghost in the Shell is looking at a ~$19M weekend if the Sat number is accurate.
Power Rangers had a decent Saturday given the Friday number. I would guess $14.5-15M for the weekend. Down 62-64% from last weekend.
Violence Jack
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Jesus. Mega bomb incoming for GitS. I knew it was going to be bad, but I thought it would gross at least around $30 million. To be sub-20 is horrendous.
Pretty much killed any chance for a sequel.
Pretty much killed any chance for a sequel.
Not going to lie. I feel bad for the filmmakers behind GitS. With the whitewashing controversy and now the poor box office results, it just sucks to see something people worked so hard to build just completely crater. I'm sure they didn't mean to offend anybody. Actually, I'm not sure what they expected when they set out to make an adaptation of a Cyberpunk anime movie.
Man, what a disaster.
Man, what a disaster.
Bobby Roberts
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Prescient as shit. She ate a LOT of abuse for it, too. Hell, even I thought she was maybe going a little overboard.
But nope.
yo that would be awesome
seriously, I really liked Power Rangers. I've probably thought about it every day since I saw it. I hope they make a sequel with the same cast.
Yep, not too far off from boxofficemojo predictions.
When the DreamWorks logo came up, I was reminded that Disney was releasing the movie at one point. They must be glad they've got nothing to do with it now. Still, it might be saved by the international haul.
Said it before, but I feel we are getting at least one sequel with this cast.
Hopefully they improve on their shortcomings and make the 2nd movie better.
twinturbo2
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People are already declaring victory over it, unaware that the overseas box office might save it.
It could have been worse, imagine if they'd actually made a good movie and it still bombed.
Dash_Riprock
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Clearly it did not with a drop like this. Outside of the fans who were going to see it regardless the film does not seem to know who it wants its audience to be.
Yet again, all eyes on China...
There's a few people in Box Office Gaf who are genuinely insightful re: box office. Majority of us just guess.
The franchise includes multiple movies, mangas and TV shows.
ElBoxyBrown
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That Black Widow movie was never gonna get made, but it is now definitely never gonna get made. People are done with ScarJo.
...Are you sure on this?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
No, but even I'm starting to grow tired of her performance of Black Widow.
Overseas may salvage the film's run, but we dont see a ton of sequels to big budget films that tank domestically and do alright overseas.
Add in all the bad press about white-washing, and I think that GitS as a Hollywood franchise will be quietly shoved under the rug.
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