ElBoxyBrown
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Han would have wanted Jason Statham to take his place. He knows kung fu and went to Japan.
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Wkd BO 0407-0917 - Baby & the Beast still Going In Style, auds con. to Ghost ScarJo
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ryutaro's mama
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This is true.
People like to shit on 4 but that film is the one that actually rebooted the series so that Fast Five could happen.
I really liked the race between Brian and Torotto a lot. It was a lot of fun and a great throwback to FF1.
"Re-routing..." and "Still the bustah..."
The owner of our local independent theatre posted on their Facebook that they practically had to beg to show the movie, and that everyone interested should please come out this weekend since they need to prove that they can open these limited release films earlier.
I thought it was maybe not the best idea to stake their reputation on a sequel to a 20 year old cult favorite, but the neighborhood is hip enough that maybe it'll work out.
Oh yeah, Tokyo Drift happens after F&F4.
I'm watching them in order. I started last year with F&F1 and went from there. But it has been a few months since I watched Fast Five.
broncobuster
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Baffling opinion of Kong considering Gareth Edwards' anemic Godzilla kicked off the universe.
Edwards Godzilla has gains dude.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's not baffling at all. Kong is a fucking terribly made movie. Sure it's louder and has more action, but none of it fucking means anything. Not that these movies have to be meaningful in a larger sense, but the shit that happens in them should actually carry some sort of weight.
It's basically just Vogt-Roberts running around the theater with a binder full of concept art and riffling through it like a flipbook while excitedly shouting "AND THEN THIS, & THIS OH LOOK A SUNSET"
Edwards' Godzilla is flat at times, and likes to tease moments more than pay them off, but it also contains weight, and its scale actually makes an impression beyond "oh, what a pretty postcard." And when it does pay those moments off, it pays them off. Vogt-Roberts spends a whole lot of time building set-pieces that end with nonsensical VFX farting (e.g. Shea Whigham)
ryutaro's mama
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Scarlet Witch and Quiksilver's subplot massively dragged that film down for me.
Could have done with less of that schlock and more of the actual monster whose name is in the title.
Could have done with less of that schlock and more of the actual monster whose name is in the title.
I guess this is the weekend where people stop questioning whether Beauty and the Beast will make it to $1B 
A couple of weeks ago, I made a graph comparing BatB's worldwide run to other films that ended up in the $1.05-1.35B range. Here's an update:
Keep in mind that BatB still has Japan to open in. Finishing somewhere above Civil War is likely.
EDIT: For films that had advanced overseas openings, "week 1" is the film's international total as of the Sunday before the domestic opening.
EDIT2: the last data point is the eventual WW total. Some of these films took a long time to hit their WW totals. Others got there quickly.
A couple of weeks ago, I made a graph comparing BatB's worldwide run to other films that ended up in the $1.05-1.35B range. Here's an update:
Keep in mind that BatB still has Japan to open in. Finishing somewhere above Civil War is likely.
EDIT: For films that had advanced overseas openings, "week 1" is the film's international total as of the Sunday before the domestic opening.
EDIT2: the last data point is the eventual WW total. Some of these films took a long time to hit their WW totals. Others got there quickly.
broncobuster
Banned
So, what Gareth Edwards did with Godzilla.
I'm not even big on Kong but at least it has things like characters with personalities. I'll give him that the atomic breath scenes are better than Kong's monster battles.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Didn't help it in Kong, either. It probably would have hurt Kong more than it did Godzilla if anyone in Kong even halfway resembled a character
(Whigham & Reilly aside)
Not at all. There are cool images in Edwards film, and he lets those images sit there. He legitimately establishes an atmosphere, even if he doesn't really do much with it half the time.
Vogt-Roberts isn't even establishing atmosphere. Hell, there's not much establishment, period. He sucks at geography. Hence the flipbook comment. Comic-book imagery is just rattling by at full clip and he's hoping you'll be "oh, cool" as much as he is.
ryutaro's mama
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Dat Frozen late spike is kinda of insane.
Did it have a ton of OS markets that it hit long after the phenomenon started, K-Swizz?
Did it have a ton of OS markets that it hit long after the phenomenon started, K-Swizz?
While it rebooted the franchise, it also felt like the most lifeless one. It was great to see the cast back really.
Frozen had a staggered worldwide launch that took months to finish rolling out. Japan was in March I think. It was #1 there forever.
EDIT: The domestic run was unusual as well. Frozen was at $192M after 4 weekends, and ended up breaking $400M.
ryutaro's mama
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I think it was because it was the movie that had the worst villain.Braga was complete trash and had no charisma. Even Cole Hauser in 2Fast was better.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I wonder if that matches up with when "Let it Go" started to seriously take off as a single.
ryutaro's mama
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I think so. Also, that was around the start of the December holidays.
It was $192M after 4 weekends though. I forgot to skip the first weekend when it released in a single theatre (for a $243k weekend total).
Bobby Roberts
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I vaguely remember sing-a-long screenings starting up somewhere in there as well. January-February ish? Might be remembering that wrong, though.
That sounds like the most obnoxious thing for a cinema
But 2F2F is the best in the series 🤔
BronsonLee
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So what you're saying is that movies with a slammin' song attached will make billions
ryutaro's mama
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I disagree.
If it is billed as a sing along and you know it going in, fine. Have fun. Worked for Rocky Horror.
What WOULD be obnoxious would be a theater breaking out into that, impromptu style.
They tried that for Moana, but the worldwide total was less than just Domestic + Japan for Frozen.
illmatic22
Banned
Bobby is Team Godzilla🙌
BronsonLee
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Just solidifying my opinion that y'all are Hawaiian Haters
Causin trouble trouble trouble
Guess Hawaiins aren't welcome
ryutaro's mama
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The craziest part of 'Let It Go' was, it made Idina Menzel (a traditionally Broadway actress) into a household name. That kinda shit didn't happen to Paige O'Hara or Jodi Bensen, like at all.
broncobuster
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I mean, Edwards literally concocts more and more ludicrous reasons for Aaron Taylor-Johnson's character to encounter and survive monsters. Big difference between the two is Vogt-Roberts embellishes in it while Edwards is self-serious. But if someone asked me who between them I'd want directing the crossover, my answer would be "can it be neither?"
Should have stuck Moana in a sparkly dress you mean.
Parents were buying those $35 Elsa dresses for hundreds of dollars on EBAY that Christmas.
Truly it should be Colin Trevorrow
Well, that JW beat down was better than any of the Kong fights.
Should've known going in that nothing was gonna top Kong vs 3 V-Rexes while juggling Ann.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't think his "embellishing in it" is the real difference. Of course the situations are going to be contrived to some degree - that's just a monster movie given. The difference is in the staging of how the encounters go. Edwards isn't self-serious about how those scenarios are staged, he's concerned in the set-piece playing out convincingly
Vogt-Roberts doesn't give a shit how his sequences play out so long as the moments he wants highlighted get captured.
You know that video about Moments vs. Scenes that Nerdwriter did about Batman v. Superman? It applies even moreso to Kong: Skull Island. There are no scenes in that movie. Fuckin' none. It's all just moments.
Anyway, depending on how Dougherty does with Godzilla II, it'll probably be his if he wants it.
broncobuster
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We'll just keep going in a circle here because I find myself nodding with your take on Vogt-Robert if applied to Edwards.
Only if it overlaps with Star Wars 9.
airmangataosenai
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Really happy to see Your Name posting such solid numbers. Doing over 5k per theater makes a decent expansion either next week or tge one after more likely as well.
Great movie if you haven't seen it yet btw.
Great movie if you haven't seen it yet btw.
cj_iwakura
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That's good for Your Name, isn't it?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
But that makes zero fuckin sense, Bronc!
I feel like we have generally overpredicted the major MCU films post Iron Man 3. Partially because foreign exchanges have been poor since 2015, and partially because the franchise has so much hype here and in other online communities.
I am going to say around $375M domestic, and in the neighbourhood of BvS Worldwide, for GotG 2.
I am going to say around $375M domestic, and in the neighbourhood of BvS Worldwide, for GotG 2.
broncobuster
Banned
Please, call me Mr. O'Buster. My son is Bronc.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
GotG2 is gonna break the billion dollar mark ww.
I can't remember, was Braga the villain of F4 or F5?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I feel like these billion dollar predictions are gonna be closer to the mark this time partially because it's Guardians, whose estimation has only grown in the meantime, and its stance as being part of—but largely set outside—the Marvel continuity porn going on in the main flights 'n' tights series will help.
I think that'll also help Ragnarok. They'll basically get sold as being all the fun of the Marvel series without any of the angst/continuity that comes along with it. You get to have it all in one concise 2hr package.
Silence, non-believer!
Sibersk Esto
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Guardians look to be the first big movie after F8 hits, April is fairly slim otherwise.
Then Guardians is fairly safe until Alien: Covenant, unless we think Guy Ritchie's King Arthur movie will be big.
Then Guardians is fairly safe until Alien: Covenant, unless we think Guy Ritchie's King Arthur movie will be big.
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