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[billy beane]

I died when she yelled out "riot" lol

 

[SapientWolf]

Damn. Didn't think this thread would still be going on, for this long. Let me add my 2c.

I've been around people with mental illness for most of my life. I personally suffer from Bipolar disorder, had a friend in grade school that suffered from tourettes, and an older friend that was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I'm OC and they are white. Never, in any instance, have I heard an utterance of racial epitaphs. That is simply because they weren't taught these behaviors/words. Racism is learned behavior. If during an episode, you start spewing racist rhetoric, you are a racist with a mental health issue. You chose to be racist, you did not choose to have a diagnosis.

In this video, her mental health issue is an aside, because she can always get treatment for her (probable) schizophrenia, but there is no pill to fix racism. She may have a MHP on call for her problems and decided not to/forgot to take her medication this week. She would still be a racist, even with her meds.

With all that, why is her mental condition even an issue? There is no disorder available that forces you to be racist. Even Zakalwe's example of Traumatic Brain Injury had innocuous, non-race-specific verbiage attached to it. There is no real excuse for racist tirades ever, full stop.

Not even Tourettes?

 

[yuoke]

Damn. Didn't think this thread would still be going on, for this long. Let me add my 2c.

I've been around people with mental illness for most of my life. I personally suffer from Bipolar disorder, had a friend in grade school that suffered from tourettes, and an older friend that was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I'm OC and they are white. Never, in any instance, have I heard an utterance of racial epitaphs. That is simply because they weren't taught these behaviors/words. Racism is learned behavior. If during an episode, you start spewing racist rhetoric, you are a racist with a mental health issue. You chose to be racist, you did not choose to have a diagnosis.

In this video, her mental health issue is an aside, because she can always get treatment for her (probable) schizophrenia, but there is no pill to fix racism. She may have a MHP on call for her problems and decided not to/forgot to take her medication this week. She would still be a racist, even with her meds.

With all that, why is her mental condition even an issue? There is no disorder available that forces you to be racist. Even Zakalwe's example of Traumatic Brain Injury had innocuous, non-race-specific verbiage attached to it. There is no real excuse for racist tirades ever, full stop.

Well for one, the racism isn't the only thing going on.

She could be potentially a threat if she has a weapon, and she was throwing stuff around.

Plus then her speech pattern, and screaming other stuff.

 

[orientalNoodle]

Imagine if this was a black woman, she would have got a good beating and tased. Metal illness or not lol.

 

[ThisGuy]

I died when she yelled out "riot" lol

https://youtu.be/g_4hXkYQtB0

Same lol.

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

What would you like the thread to talk about instead? If you have a different thing you'd like to talk about in relation to the story, then lead the way.

The importance of vigilance in calling out racist behavior you see, maybe something about the usefulness of technology in exposing racism, the interesting use of the word "sand nigger" with the implication of comparing something to "black" which is the lowest of the low, the security guard was also very interesting in his attempts to take down the woman. Hell even just stories about "times you saw someone acting crazy in public"

 

[Count Dookkake]

Crazy, racist, sad.

Damn. Didn't think this thread would still be going on, for this long. Let me add my 2c.

I've been around people with mental illness for most of my life. I personally suffer from Bipolar disorder, had a friend in grade school that suffered from tourettes, and an older friend that was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I'm OC and they are white. Never, in any instance, have I heard an utterance of racial epitaphs.

Good, because that would be a monumental offense.

 

[Zakalwe]

Damn. Didn't think this thread would still be going on, for this long. Let me add my 2c.

I've been around people with mental illness for most of my life. I personally suffer from Bipolar disorder, had a friend in grade school that suffered from tourettes, and an older friend that was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I'm OC and they are white. Never, in any instance, have I heard an utterance of racial epitaphs. That is simply because they weren't taught these behaviors/words. Racism is learned behavior. If during an episode, you start spewing racist rhetoric, you are a racist with a mental health issue. You chose to be racist, you did not choose to have a diagnosis.

In this video, her mental health issue is an aside, because she can always get treatment for her (probable) schizophrenia, but there is no pill to fix racism. She may have a MHP on call for her problems and decided not to/forgot to take her medication this week. She would still be a racist, even with her meds.

With all that, why is her mental condition even an issue? There is no disorder available that forces you to be racist. Even Zakalwe's example of Traumatic Brain Injury had innocuous, non-race-specific verbiage attached to it. There is no real excuse for racist tirades ever, full stop.

You only choose to be racist once you become aware of your racist actions and you carry on with them.

How many mental disorders exist that could prevent this person from being able to have access to that awareness? Or the capacity to learn and change?

How many people with mental disorders were raised in a racist environment and will never, ever have the capacity to undo all that damage?

Please, statements like "You chose to be racist, you did not choose to have a diagnosis." are so woefully ignorant or unaware in the context of mental health.

And this isn't true for the vast majority of cases of footage like this. But this one has significant evidence to suggest the person's mental state is very, very poor.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

My god you guys like to dissect videos ad nauseam.

No new comic book movies out..give it time.

 

[Zakalwe]

That condition is racism

Shit-posting is still shit-posting even if it's for a good cause.

 

[crisdecuba]

The importance of vigilance in calling out racist behavior you see, maybe something about the usefulness of technology in exposing racism, the interesting use of the word "sand nigger" with the implication of comparing something to "black" which is the lowest of the low, the security guard was also very interesting in his attempts to take down the woman. Hell even just stories about "times you saw someone acting crazy in public"

Makes sense. For myself, most of those topics are old hat in the sense that I've seen so many of these racist tirades that it isn't surprising / interesting to talk about anymore. This may also be why some others are focusing on the less understood aspect of mental illness instead.

 

[Biske]

In situations like that, security guy should have just walked away and called the police to deal with it.

I sure as shit know I'm not physically touching another motherfucker. I'll let the people above my paygrade deal with it.

Before he starts trying to cover she had broken a bottle in her pursuit to throw things.

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

I've seen so many of these racist tirades that it isn't surprising / interesting to talk about anymore. This may also be why some others are focusing on the less understood aspect of mental illness instead.

Interesting.

 

[Goldboy]

Stuff like this makes me sad for the world. Although as someone who has been called the same slurs that lady threw around in the video, I have to say that I hold less contempt for racists like this who are completely gone mentally than the tons of horribly racist people who live otherwise normal lives and hide amongst everyone else.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Have there been any studies on this magical correlation between "mental illness" and the word nigger that I'm somehow missing? Because it seems to be the catch all defense for angry white racists, of which there are many.

Since a lot of white people in general seem to think there's no racism, and angry white racists aren't actually racists but rather mentally ill, I guess there's no real reason to be upset. What's the point of this thread? We need to just get these people the help they need and be compassionate to the mind worm that makes them shout racial slurs with no restraint. What's the best treatment? A drill?

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

Have there been any studies on this magical correlation between "mental illness" and the word nigger that I'm somehow missing? Because it seems to be the catch all defense for angry white racists, of which there are many.

Since a lot of white people in general seem to think there's no racism, and angry white racists aren't actually racists but rather mentally ill, I guess there's no real reason to be upset. What's the point of this thread? We need to just get these people the help they need and be compassionate to the mind worm that makes them shout racial slurs with no restraint. What's the best treatment? A drill?

The people in this thread would tell you they would agree with you in all those other cases but this one is different

 

[yuoke]

Have there been any studies on this magical correlation between "mental illness" and the word nigger that I'm somehow missing? Because it seems to be the catch all defense for angry white racists, of which there are many.

Since a lot of white people in general seem to think there's no racism, and angry white racists aren't actually racists but rather mentally ill, I guess there's no real reason to be upset. What's the point of this thread? We need to just get these people the help they need and be compassionate to the mind worm that makes them shout racial slurs with no restraint. What's the best treatment? A drill?

Did you like not watch the video or what?

Did you not see the way she was walking around, screaming, throwing stuff, or just acting crazy?

She didn't just calmly go up to someone and say it casually.

 

[Zakalwe]

Makes sense. For myself, most of those topics are old hat in the sense that I've seen so many of these racist tirades that it isn't surprising / interesting to talk about anymore. This may also be why some others are focusing on the less understood aspect of mental illness instead.

No, the reason we're focusing on mental illness is because that seems to be the primary driving force here and the primary driving force in these videos is almost always obviously "the person is a racist pos".

This video is an anomaly, imo, it's one of the very few that actually show, IMO, a person in deep mental distress. And if that's true the racist outburst is a symptom of that distress, but it's not the cause of it.

These are important distinctions to make, especially when it comes to understanding how severe mental health issues can be.

The conversation about mental health is really difficult because it exists alongside all the other social issues, and is often entwined with them. It's also difficult because we need to speak not only about the realities of what can happen to a person if not treated properly, but we need to balance that with making sure people know not everyone with schizophrenia is going to stab up their family, or that everyone with Down syndrome needs to be spoken to like a child, etc...

If this woman wasn't being racist, if we replaced the racial insults with "fucking cunts", would your perception of the incident change at all?

I think it would for a lot of people here, and that's something worth talking about.

Have there been any studies on this magical correlation between "mental illness" and the word nigger that I'm somehow missing? Because it seems to be the catch all defense for angry white racists, of which there are many.

Since a lot of white people in general seem to think there's no racism, and angry white racists aren't actually racists but rather mentally ill, I guess there's no real reason to be upset. What's the point of this thread? We need to just get these people the help they need and be compassionate to the mind worm that makes them shout racial slurs with no restraint. What's the best treatment? A drill?

Read. The. Thread.

We've acknowledged this point, too many times to repeat it.

 

[ThisGuy]

I think she's a junkie that lost her shit and said some things she would typically keep to herself. Drugs can fuck a person up.

As in, she's a racist that had a mental breakdown from drugs. Not that she's mentally ill.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Did you like not watch the video or what?

Did you not see the way she was walking around, screaming, throwing stuff, or just acting crazy?

She didn't just calmly go up to someone and say it casually.

I really like the idea of the drill.

This poor woman would lose her life, but she'd be free from her mental illness, people wouldn't have to deal with being dehumanized, and maybe we could capture the mind worm for study so we can start working on a cure. Everyone wins.

Yes, I watched the fucking video.

 

[crisdecuba]

No, the reason we're focusing on mental illness is because that seems to be the primary driving force here and the primary driving force in these videos is almost always obviously "the person is a racist pos".

This video is an anomaly, imo, it's one of the very few that actually show, IMO, a person is deep mental distress. And if that's true he racist outburst is a symptom of that distress, but it's not the cause of it.

These are important distinctions to make, especially when it comes to understanding how severe mental health issues can be.

The conversation about mental health is really difficult because it exists alongside all the other social issues, and is often entwined with them. It's also difficult because we need to speak not only about the realities of what can happen to a person if not treated properly, but we need to balance that with making sure people know not everyone with schizophrenia is going to stab up their family, or that everyone with Down syndrome needs to be spoken to like a child, etc...

If this woman wasn't being racist, if we replaced the racial insults with "fucking cunts", would your perception of the incident change at all?

I think it would for a lot of people here, and that's something worth talking about.



Read. The. Thread.

We've acknowledged this point, too many times to repeat it.

I hear you and you're making some valid points here -- that's why I said "some" people might be focusing on it for that reason, not everyone.

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

I think she's a junkie that lost her shit and said some things she would typically keep to herself. Drugs can fuck a person up.

As in, she's a racist that had a mental breakdown from drugs. Not that she's mentally ill.

Just as likely! But it's harder to be an innocent victim if it's drugs, so let's stick with mental illness.

 

[yuoke]

I really like the idea of the drill.

This poor woman would lose her life, but she'd be free from her mental illness, people wouldn't have to deal with being dehumanized, and maybe we could capture the mind worm for study so we can start working on a cure. Everyone wins.

Yes, I watched the fucking video.

Then how about not blatantly ignoring that everyone has said that she is racist and also mentally ill?

 

[Zakalwe]

I hear you and you're making some valid points here -- that's why I said "some" people might be focusing on it for that reason, not everyone.

Ah, sorry, I should probably take a breath in between posts.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Then how about not blatantly ignoring that everyone has said that she is racist and also mentally ill?

Well, I don't see where I said that at all, would you like to point that out for me?

Edit:

I don't care about her mental illness. There's no excuse for people to run around shouting racial slurs in public places, and nobody has yet to explain why that's a symptom of mental illness. Children have temper tantrums all the time; we don't run around calling them mentally ill when they start yelling and throwing things around, and we also don't record it, because it's a common enough thing where it's not really a big deal.

It's weird that people don't seem to get that people of color are tired of seeing the excuse of slurs used by trash to justify their outbursts. But since it's really, really important to some of you guys, I'll acknowledge (again) that she could be mentally ill and also racist.

That's why I'm suggesting we find the cause and get the drill for the racist worm.

 

[yuoke]

Well, I don't see where I said that at all, would you like to point that out for me?

Have there been any studies on this magical correlation between "mental illness" and the word nigger that I'm somehow missing? Because it seems to be the catch all defense for angry white racists, of which there are many.

You say magical correlation as if someone can't be mentally ill and also racist.

 

[Zakalwe]

Well, I don't see where I said that at all, would you like to point that out for me?

Edit:

I don't care about her mental illness. There's no excuse for people to run around shouting racial slurs in public places, and nobody has yet to explain why that's a symptom of mental illness. Children have temper tantrums all the time; we don't run around calling them mentally ill when they start yelling and throwing things around, and we also don't record it, because it's a common enough thing where it's not really a big deal.

It's weird that people don't seem to get that people of color are tired of seeing the excuse of slurs used by trash to justify their outbursts. But since it's really, really important to some of you guys, I'll acknowledge (again) that she could be mentally ill and also racist.

That's why I'm suggesting we find the cause and get the drill for the racist worm.

We have literally addressed everything in your post, ITT, multiple times.

Please read the thread.

 

[brawly]

I'm sure it's difficult to cuff someone but this guy didn't exactly do a good job selling himself.

Reality kicked in real quick for her, didn't it.

 

[ThisGuy]

I'm sure it's difficult to cuff someone but this guy didn't exactly do a good job selling himself.

Reality kicked in real quick for her, didn't it.

Reality is sobering.

 

[Owari]

This is really sad. She's clearly mentally ill.

 

[spock]

No, the reason we're focusing on mental illness is because that seems to be the primary driving force here and the primary driving force in these videos is almost always obviously "the person is a racist pos".

This video is an anomaly, imo, it's one of the very few that actually show, IMO, a person in deep mental distress. And if that's true the racist outburst is a symptom of that distress, but it's not the cause of it.

These are important distinctions to make, especially when it comes to understanding how severe mental health issues can be.

The conversation about mental health is really difficult because it exists alongside all the other social issues, and is often entwined with them. It's also difficult because we need to speak not only about the realities of what can happen to a person if not treated properly, but we need to balance that with making sure people know not everyone with schizophrenia is going to stab up their family, or that everyone with Down syndrome needs to be spoken to like a child, etc...

If this woman wasn't being racist, if we replaced the racial insults with "fucking cunts", would your perception of the incident change at all?

I think it would for a lot of people here, and that's something worth talking about.



Read. The. Thread.

We've acknowledged this point, too many times to repeat it.

I'm with you here and stated the exact same thing on the last page. Again I ask people to remove the racial slurs from her behavior and ask themselves would she be of sound mind? You could replace the racial verbiage and would see the mental issues regardless IMO. Odds are she is racist on some level but as you said that is not whats primarily motivating her behavior and actions.

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

I'm with you here and stated something similar on the last page. Again I ask people to remove the racial slurs from her behavior and ask themselves would she be of sound mind? You could replace the racial verbiage and would see the mental issues regardless IMO. Odds are she is racist on some level but as you said that is not whats primarily motivating her behavior and actions.

How can you say that?

It's entirely possible her racism is motivating her behaviors and actions

 

[Instro]

Have there been any studies on this magical correlation between "mental illness" and the word nigger that I'm somehow missing? Because it seems to be the catch all defense for angry white racists, of which there are many.

Since a lot of white people in general seem to think there's no racism, and angry white racists aren't actually racists but rather mentally ill, I guess there's no real reason to be upset. What's the point of this thread? We need to just get these people the help they need and be compassionate to the mind worm that makes them shout racial slurs with no restraint. What's the best treatment? A drill?

Well I think there is a difference between an angry racist, or any racist, and someone having a lengthy violent breakdown in a very public place. As far as correlation, I'm sure there's an aspect of learning involved, but from my experience mental conditions can cause people to latch onto various ideas due to how their condition affects their thought processes. Example, my fiance's brother is a diagnosed schizophrenic. At one point when he was off medication some years ago he abruptly became extremely religious, and in turn very intolerant of gay people. We later found out that the voices he was hearing in his head had in some way convinced him that gay people were all around him and were going to hurt him. We were never really clear as to why he suddenly picked all of this up, and from all accounts he had never been that way before, but it went away once he was properly medicated again. I certainly don't think there are no racists, but I do think it's fair to say that racism, or other similar behaviors, can be driven by certain mental conditions.

Having said all that, it's seems like a rather pointless debate to have for a thread like this. It's random internet video. We have no idea who this lady is, what she is on, if she actually is mentally ill, etc., so people are perfectly valid in reacting to her racism at face value given the complete lack of other information on what happened here.

 

[yuoke]

That's why I'm suggesting we find the cause and get the drill for the racist worm.

Or get her help with her mental issues, and maybe over time she can see her racist thoughts are wrong?

 

[falconxcrunner09]

"i'll leave if you let go

i'll leave if you let go"

lmfao

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Only to ones that aren't racist.

Racist don't have mental issues. They're racist.

 

[Galactic Barret]

Not even Tourettes?

No, not even Tourettes. My friend Dennis suffered from it, and it wasn't ever racial in tone. A motherfucker here, fucking shit was a go to, goddamn sonofabitch, sure. Sand Nigger, or any variation for any race? Never. He wasn't taught that, it wasn't in his vocabulary.

Well for one, the racism isn't the only thing going on.

She could be potentially a threat if she has a weapon, and she was throwing stuff around.

Plus then her speech pattern, and screaming other stuff.

Anyone is a threat if they have a weapon, mentally ill or otherwise. That should be obvious. Her speech pattern and ideology is also consistent with Meth or other mind altering amphetamines. Again, the only constant is the racist rhetoric. You can assume she has a disability, but those are only assumptions.

You only choose to be racist once you become aware of your racist actions and you carry on with them.

How many mental disorders exist that could prevent this person from being able to have access to that awareness? Or the capacity to learn and change?

How many people with mental disorders were raised in a racist environment and will never, ever have the capacity to undo all that damage?

Please, statements like "You chose to be racist, you did not choose to have a diagnosis." are so woefully ignorant or unaware in the context of mental health.

And this isn't true for the vast majority of cases of footage like this. But this one has significant evidence to suggest the person's mental state is very, very poor.

Believe me, the one thing I am not ignorant of mental health. When you're undergoing therapy, one of the building blocks is personal responsibility. You are responsible for taking your medications and keeping yourself away from your 'triggers'. You are responsible for your own actions, and the med are a way to help you keep that control. I know this from personal experience AND anecdotal.

Again, I know of Tourettes, which causes people to be unable to control impulses, particularly in speech. That doesn't MAKE you say anything racist. You have to be taught that. I know of manic episodes (from personal experience) that cause you to throw caution to the wind and take risk you normally wouldn't. Also a case where racist attitudes would have to be instilled for it to dominate your mental faculties. Schizophrenia, a severe break from reality usually controlled with Lithium. You could live a whole life separate from your real life, but racist behavior STILL has to be instilled.

Those are the diseases I know of that have an effect on your cognitive functions where you would still be able to live a functioning life, without an aide, like this woman in the video. If you know of any other (Traumatic Brain Injuries require constant care and supervision), I'd be willing to hear them. As it stands, all I see is you shouting 'Mental Illness!', without anything to back it up.

I'm with you here and stated the exact same thing on the last page. Again I ask people to remove the racial slurs from her behavior and ask themselves would she be of sound mind? You could replace the racial verbiage and would see the mental issues regardless IMO. Odds are she is racist on some level but as you said that is not whats primarily motivating her behavior and actions.

And therein lies the problem. Once she is arrested, she will go to a mental care facility and she will receive treatment for her illness, if she does indeed have one. How will her racist ideology be cured/treated? It will be brushed aside, just like it is in this thread.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

How can you say that?

It's entirely possible her racism is motivating her behaviors and actions

I mean, yeah.

It's entirely possible that a brown person bumped into her, or took something she wanted on the shelf, or just got into a verbal confrontation with her, which enraged her to the point of throwing things around and yelling slurs.

And that's my frustration. My scenario is just as likely as the "mental health" one that crusaders toss out in every fucking thread where some racist gets caught making a scene, but that's never the one given any consideration.

I guess when you live in a world where dehumanizing language against minorities just isn't a huge deal for anyone on either side of the political isle, it shouldn't be surprising. But it's still tired.

And I'm going to continue to advocate for the drill.

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I appreciate this post.

 

[spock]

How can you say that?

It's entirely possible her racism is motivating her behaviors and actions

I'm not in her head so I can't say that with 100% certainty. However, my personal background in behavior and psychology tells me that she's a mentally ill person who's probably a racist. But the mentally ill part appears as the driver (not necessarily the trigger of the incident, however) based on viewing the entire video. The rest of her speech, her physical actions, her non-verbals (from what I can see), etc. point to mental instability.

However, racism and racial belief structures could have and appear to be the possible trigger of her episode. That does complicate the discussion into a whole chicken & egg scenario.

It also poses the question of how to view and treat people who are possibly and legitimately both mentally ill and racists.

Edit: When I say mentally ill I should have said mentally impaired as this could easily be a drug fueled/triggered episode.

 

[mavericktopgun]

She has crazy eyes. Frightening...
Don't do drugs.

 

[Zakalwe]

Believe me, the one thing I am not ignorant of mental health. When you're undergoing therapy, one of the building blocks is personal responsibility. You are responsible for taking your medications and keeping yourself away from your 'triggers'. You are responsible for your own actions, and the med are a way to help you keep that control. I know this from personal experience AND anecdotal.

You're talking about the fortunate people like me, who suffer from mental health conditions but also have the capacity to take full responsibility for them.

This isn't true for everyone, and in this video I think we very clearly see a person who needs far more focused care.

 

[yuoke]

Racist don't have mental issues. They're racist.

Someone can be racist.

Someone can have mental issues.

Someone can be racist and have mental issues.

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

I mean, yeah.

It's entirely possible that a brown person bumped into her, or took something she wanted on the shelf, or just got into a verbal confrontation with her, which enraged her to the point of throwing things around and yelling slurs.

And that's my frustration. My scenario is just as likely as the "mental health" one that crusaders toss out in every fucking thread where some racist gets caught making a scene, but that's never the one given any consideration.

I guess when you live in a world where dehumanizing language against minorities just isn't a huge deal for anyone on either side of the political isle, it shouldn't be surprising. But it's still tired.

And I'm going to continue to advocate for the drill.



I appreciate this post.

I'm with you.

"No but it's mental illness tho."

 

[Messofanego]

Damn. Didn't think this thread would still be going on, for this long. Let me add my 2c.

I've been around people with mental illness for most of my life. I personally suffer from Bipolar disorder, had a friend in grade school that suffered from tourettes, and an older friend that was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I'm OC and they are white. Never, in any instance, have I heard an utterance of racial epitaphs. That is simply because they weren't taught these behaviors/words. Racism is learned behavior. If during an episode, you start spewing racist rhetoric, you are a racist with a mental health issue. You chose to be racist, you did not choose to have a diagnosis.

In this video, her mental health issue is an aside, because she can always get treatment for her (probable) schizophrenia, but there is no pill to fix racism. She may have a MHP on call for her problems and decided not to/forgot to take her medication this week. She would still be a racist, even with her meds.

With all that, why is her mental condition even an issue? There is no disorder available that forces you to be racist. Even Zakalwe's example of Traumatic Brain Injury had innocuous, non-race-specific verbiage attached to it. There is no real excuse for racist tirades ever, full stop.

Yeah, racism doesn't come out of nowhere even when you're mentally ill. From my experience at working in mental hospitals and community settings with bipolar and schizophrenic disorders, if there is racism, it doesn't switch on and off when they're having an explosive episode or not. They'll still be racist when they have full control of their mental capacity.

I'm not sure what is Zakalwe's deal throughout this thread of acting like an expert on mental health, being condescending towards other posters, constantly focusing on the mental issues without any confirmation, and diagnosing the person based on a few minutes of video. I don't think this poster is a psychologist because no one does an assessment based on one source of information. Kind of jumping the gun.

 

[yuoke]

I'm with you.

"No but it's mental illness tho."

I thought you were trying to advocate for a middle ground.

 

[Snarky(HEART)]

I thought you were trying to advocate for a middle ground.

Some posts made me change me mind.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Jesus, this picture looks like she killed a guy and wore him as a scarf.

 

[Zakalwe]

Yeah, racism doesn't come out of nowhere even when you're mentally ill. From my experience at working in mental hospitals and community settings with bipolar and schizophrenic disorders, if there is racism, it doesn't switch on and off when they're having an explosive episode or not. They'll still be racist when they have full control of their mental capacity.

I'm not sure what is Zakalwe's deal throughout this thread of acting like an expert on mental health, being condescending towards other posters, constantly focusing on the mental issues without any confirmation, and diagnosing the person based on a few minutes of video. I don't think this poster is a psychologist because no one does an assessment based on one source of information. Kind of jumping the gun.

I've literally admitted I'm no expert, but I have had decent experience working in this field.

I worked in a home for 6 months where the children suffered from a wide range of mental problems. Half the home was for children who had been born with them, others for those who had received them after a horrific accident (mostly traffic related).

I worked on a ward at the local hospital for 6 months where I was regularly in contact with people suffering deep psychosis to the point of hallucination, bi-polar disorders across a large scale, etc... you name it.

I personally suffer from pretty crippling anxiety and depression. I was a victim of childhood abuse. I've been in the mental health system since I was a child.

My sister has a very severe cased of ADHD, or something similar. She has always refused medication, has been a horrible, horrible strain on our family.

My girlfriend's best friend is suicidal and has diagnosed psychosis due to childhood abuse.

So while I'm no expert I do have experience, and to me this video very clearly shows signs of some kind of mental episode.

I could be wrong, I've said that, but I don't think I am.

I'm also only being condescending toward people who are shit-posting or making very little effort in their responses/or clearly not reading the thread and making dumb statements.

Please, feel free to point out specific posts I've made that back up your claim. I'll acknowledge any you find that are problematic and I'm completely open to discussing my behaviour ITT.

I'd kindly ask that you have the decency to talk to me directly about it, though, cheers.

 

[Galactic Barret]

You're talking about the fortunate people like me, who suffer from mental health conditions but also have the capacity to take full responsibility for them.

This isn't true for everyone, and in this video I think we very clearly see a person who needs far more focused care.

So, what is it exactly that you're talking about? You're not saying much at all, except that she is clearly mentally ill (which is incorrect, as many drugs mimic mental illness like LSD, PCP, Meth, etc) and that she may not have control over her thoughts and behavior AND doesn't understand the consequences of her actions or racist behavior. What illness are you referring to?

Yeah, racism doesn't come out of nowhere even when you're mentally ill. From my experience at working in mental hospitals and community settings with bipolar and schizophrenic disorders, if there is racism, it doesn't switch on and off when they're having an explosive episode or not. They'll still be racist when they have full control of their mental capacity.

I'm not sure what is Zakalwe's deal throughout this thread of acting like an expert on mental health, being condescending towards other posters, constantly focusing on the mental issues without any confirmation, and diagnosing the person based on a few minutes of video. I don't think this poster is a psychologist because no one does an assessment based on one source of information. Kind of jumping the gun.

Anyone in or of the field understands the bolded, which is why I'm not understanding his deal either.

 

[Zakalwe]

So, what is it exactly that you're talking about? You're not saying much at all, except that she is clearly mentally ill (which is incorrect, as many drugs mimic mental illness like LSD, PCP, Meth, etc) and that she may not have control over her thoughts and behavior AND doesn't understand the consequences of her actions or racist behavior. WHat illness are you referring to?.

Read the thread. I've made a few posts now that go in to detail and answer the things you're asking here.