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Women harrassed while eating ice cream - "I don't want them here in my country"

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Cynthia Ramsay, 58, who owns the ice cream shop with her husband, told BuzzFeed News that the man quietly whispered some remarks about the women to one of her employees, Jessie Noah.

“I’m not going to repeat what he said because I don’t want to create racial hatred,” said Ramsay, who was present during the incident.

It was the first time she had refused service to a customer in the three years since opening, she added.

“He said they shouldn’t be in this country. He was very, very rude, and he kept saying ‘them, them them,’” Ramsay said.


Ammari said that when saw the man returning to the ice cream parlor minutes later, she started recording him.

“He was pointing at our table and telling the employees, ‘You refused to serve me because you were serving them,’” Ammari said. “He assumed we’re not Americans and that he deserved to be treated better.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnas...-after-telling?utm_term=.qhbnjNPBA#.lld0GRzBW

The women, 21-year-old Malaak Ammari and 22-year-old Nura, were at Andrew's Ice Cream in Orange, California, with another friend, when another customer began berating them.

In a phone interview, Ammari said they at first paid little attention to the man, and only realized they were the target of his vitriol when the woman behind the counter escorted him out and began apologizing to them.

"We're just three Muslim girls," Ammari said. "We didn't know what to do, we didn't want to add more gas to the fire. It was already bad enough."

Ammari pulled out her phone and started recording when the man came back, accusing the staff of being rude to him. "You won't serve me, but you serve them," the man argued, according to Ammari, while pointing at their table.

In the 20-second clip Nura uploaded to Twitter, an employee of the shop can be heard escorting the man out of the shop while saying, "If you can't be nice, we don't want you."

As the man made his way out, he said, "I don't want them here in my country," pointing to the women's table.

"Too bad, we're here," Nura, who is in the video calmly eating her ice cream, replied. "Sucks for you!"

The man seemed to threaten the women, saying, "Too bad for me? You'll see what happens."

"You're racist! And this is on tape!" Ammari replies mockingly as the apparent Islamophobe exits the ice cream shop.

Ammari said another video, which was not uploaded to social media, showed the man come back and up to the window in an attempt to menace them, but that they all just laughed at him.

https://mic.com/articles/144313/mus...arassing-them-at-an-ice-cream-shop#.JhkolM6Q3

You'll see what happens...
 
Ice cream should be bringing us together, not tearing us apart. These videos are always uncomfortable to watch because it's a terrible reminder that some of my neighbors are knee-jerking, irrational, prejudiced assholes. I liked the employee.
 

zma1013

Member
Why do I have this picture in my head of Randy from South Park? "I thought this was America?!" as they drag him out.
 
Can you imagine thinking like this guy?

"Oh boy I'm hungry for some ice cream! I'll just head on inside and...OH GREAT WHAT ARE THESE MUSLIMS DOING HERE?! I'M GOING TO CREATE A BIG SCENE FOR NO REASON AND GET KICKED OUT WHILE BEING FILMED THREATENING THEM FOR SITTING IN AN ICE CREAM SHOP EATING ICE CREAM IN MY COUNTRY!!!"
 
Can you imagine thinking like this guy?

"Oh boy I'm hungry for some ice cream! I'll just head on inside and...OH GREAT WHAT ARE THESE MUSLIMS DOING HERE?! I'M GOING TO CREATE A BIG SCENE FOR NO REASON AND GET KICKED OUT WHILE BEING FILMED THREATENING THEM FOR SITTING IN AN ICE CREAM SHOP EATING ICE CREAM IN MY COUNTRY!!!"

It really must be a miserable existence to live out
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
this guy is all
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Saint god.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Can you imagine thinking like this guy?

"Oh boy I'm hungry for some ice cream! I'll just head on inside and...OH GREAT WHAT ARE THESE MUSLIMS DOING HERE?! I'M GOING TO CREATE A BIG SCENE FOR NO REASON AND GET KICKED OUT WHILE BEING FILMED THREATENING THEM FOR SITTING IN AN ICE CREAM SHOP EATING ICE CREAM IN MY COUNTRY!!!"

I can't help but feel bad for someone like that. How miserable is your life, that you do that? Or is it mental illness? There used to be a lady who used to scream "America is a whoooooore" over and over, in my old hood. You could hear it for like 5km. Since then when people make giant scenes for no reason, just to be hateful, I wonder if they're mentally ill.


A Dawkins fan im guessing.
Really? Don't try to make "fetch" happen.
 

Jenov

Member
Yeesh, that guy needs to be on a watch list. Threatening girls eating ice cream, minding their own business, what an asshole.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
This guy must have a lot of fun getting through life if a couple ladies eating some ice cream gets such a response out of him. Watching modern television must drive this dude fucking batty let alone just walking around a major metropolitan area. I wonder what the statistics for stress related diseases are for bigots and racists if this is the type or reaction they have to such a mundane harmless thing.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Really? Don't try to make "fetch" happen.

First thing that came to my mind when we have a thread constantly bumped in which the guy, who has spewed shit like in the incident here, is inciting others to offend muslims (and other religious people but specially muslims). So basically it's what gaf put in my mind first rather than trump or any other hate monger.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
First thing that came to my mind when we have a thread constantly bumped in which the guy, who has spewed shit like in the incident here, is inciting others to offend muslims (and other religious people but specially muslims). So basically it's what gaf put in my mind first rather than trump or any other hate monger.
I don't want to derail the thread, and I'm not a huge fan of Dawkins or anything, but pause before you start to ruin someone's name and wonder if you're doing the right thing. Look to see if you can find Dawkins ever saying anything remotely like this.
 

studyguy

Member
Eh rolling around Malibu beaches, near Santa Barbara, Ventura piers, Hollywood, Orange County, etc you still hear tidbits about Trump and 'fixing things' out here. I'm not surprised in the least. Out in the Central Valley it's way worse.
 
Eh rolling around Malibu beaches, near Santa Barbara, Ventura piers, Hollywood, Orange County, etc you still hear tidbits about Trump and 'fixing things' out here. I'm not surprised in the least. Out in the Central Valley it's way worse.

Try living in the fucking Inland Empire.
 
Sayonara to whatever job (if any) this guy had or wanted to have.

Nope, because as soon as people start suggesting he lose his job you'll have millions of apologists!

"Think about his family gaiz! How will this change his views?!! How will he learn?! He's just going to double down! We (this is never truly "we" but "you" as in the oppressed) should be understanding and empathize <article link here> not ridicule! "We" have to be better! Those girls shouldn't have said anything, both sides! Let's not be quick to call him a racist!"
 

PSqueak

Banned
I don't want to derail the thread, and I'm not a huge fan of Dawkins or anything, but pause before you start to ruin someone's name and wonder if you're doing the right thing. Look to see if you can find Dawkins ever saying anything remotely like this.

Understood, indeed we don't need to derail the thread, it was my attempt at a joke (others have done it better already a few posts above).

If you're curious, the Dawkins thread does have the tweets of Dawkins saying such things tho.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Nope, because as soon as people start suggesting he lose his job you'll have millions of apologists!

"Think about his family gaiz! How will this change his views!! We should be understanding and empathize <article link here> not ridicule! We have to be better! Those girls shouldn't have said anything, both sides!"
I agree with everything(ish) except the last sentence.
 
This is what racism is: petty losers who want a way to feel better than normal people. They will never admit that they are the ones with the problem.
 
But if we can't hate what is different than us, how are we supposed to stay in control of the world? Rabble rabble this is israel's fault

-Breitbart, probably
 

Cipherr

Member
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Her Tweet.

I love that this stuff is attached to Trumps hip immediately. Guy is going to get massacred in November. Absolutely annihilated. Can't wait to see the people doing all the handwringing and "None of this hurts Trump gaiz it just helps him" stuff to be flat out flabbergasted as to how it happened.

Nope, because as soon as people start suggesting he lose his job you'll have millions of apologists!

"Think about his family gaiz! How will this change his views?!! How will he learn?! He's just going to double down! We (this is never truly "we" but "you" as in the oppressed) should be understanding and empathize <article link here> not ridicule! "We" have to be better! Those girls shouldn't have said anything, both sides! Let's not be quick to call him a racist!"

Hahaha, so true.
 
Nope, because as soon as people start suggesting he lose his job you'll have millions of apologists!

"Think about his family gaiz! How will this change his views?!! How will he learn?! He's just going to double down! We (this is never truly "we" but "you" as in the oppressed) should be understanding and empathize <article link here> not ridicule! "We" have to be better! Those girls shouldn't have said anything, both sides! Let's not be quick to call him a racist!"
The reason for this is because people conceptually don't like the idea of someone losing their job over just some mean words because, to other white people anyway, that's all they are. Words.
 

effzee

Member
incoming 10 page debate about this isn't racism because Islam isn't a race.

nothing gaf loves more than arguing semantics.
 
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