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Tortfeasor

Tortfeasor

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Is working designs finally gone? It looks like the website is at least... It has been down for about a week or so. I didn't want to post about it right away in case it was just a simple DNS issue, but since it has been a week I think it is finally safe to post about it.

http://www.workingdesigns.com
 
turok4n64 said:
hmm their name sounds so familar...what did they develop?
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They don't develop, just publish. They released Lunar for the Sega CD and PS1. The Arc the Lad Collection and more recently Growlanser Generations.
 
MoxManiac said:
Did they even have anything in the pipeline after GG?
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They supposedly had some stuff that they were just not at liberty to discuss yet... Supposedly they were waiting until after E3 to announce so they were not lost in the hype of the conference.
 
This was a funny thread :)

http://forum.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=39824&highlight=Lunar+DS

Vic Ireland said:
Another factor (as I already posted in our threads at www.workingdesigns.com a while ago) is that I firmly now believe that the DS is indeed stillborn. I wanted to like it, but Nintendo's making it really, really hard. I'm keeping one system to play Goemon and Castlevania DS, and that's about it. My kids have moved on to PSP and are selling their DS machines, as I imagine many will once they experience the sexiness and functionality of the PSP.
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I always thought it was a pretty dodgy business model, not that we know for sure whether they're dead or not.

If they are gone, can you hear that sound?

It's 4 million DSs, pissing themselves laughing.
 
While I admit his vision of the DS was shortsighted....the games they brought to the Saturn alone are worth more than your pathetic fanboy lives. Go piss on someone else's grave.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
While I admit his vision of the DS was shortsighted....the games they brought to the Saturn alone are worth more than your pathetic fanboy lives. Go piss on someone else's grave.
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I liked Lunar: Eternal Blue, but I like irony alot more :)
 
Musashi Wins! said:
While I admit his vision of the DS was shortsighted....the games they brought to the Saturn alone are worth more than your pathetic fanboy lives. Go piss on someone else's grave.
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word!

Maybe vic can comment...he posts here I think.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
While I admit his vision of the DS was shortsighted....the games they brought to the Saturn alone are worth more than your pathetic fanboy lives. Go piss on someone else's grave.
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I agree... When I made the thread I didn't mean to draw in the hate. During the dry times, they were the best source for RPG games... Truely a fan service.
 
For the record, I am neutral on this matter. I only made a statement.
 
DirtyHarry said:
I always thought it was a pretty dodgy business model, not that we know for sure whether they're dead or not.

If they are gone, can you hear that sound?

It's 4 million DSs, pissing themselves laughing.
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more than 5 million is what you mean
 
If WD ever do go out of business, Vic should just host the site himself and not tell anyone...with outages more frequent than updates, it would take a long time for anyone to notice. :lol
 
Musashi Wins! said:
While I admit his vision of the DS was shortsighted....the games they brought to the Saturn alone are worth more than your pathetic fanboy lives. Go piss on someone else's grave.
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Indeed. Not to mention they brought out some of the only essential SegaCD software (Popful Mail, Lunar 1 & 2, and, uh, well, Vay) and some of the best PSX software (Alundra, Raystorm) at a time when nobody else would touch it.

Vic is a guy who's dedicated his life to trying to improve gaming in the West -- whether or not you agree with his people's RPG translations from the old days, they're a hell of a lot better than anyone else was doing and at least they gave two shits. American players of console RPGs owe him, in particular. The celebratory comments in this thread are disgusting.
 
If they had games to announce after E3 and with it now being after E3, couldn't the sites be down to update itself with ready for said new games announcement?
 
I'm not here to dance on anyone's grave and I'm sure Vic and WD has a big following.

That said, I grew up on the SNES playing wonderful translations of Japanese RPGs handled by Enix, Square USA and Nintendo's internal staff. I owe nothing to Vic, and I suspect many of my generation who chose to play on a SNES, could care less about Lunar, the SegaCD and all that.

He's influence certainly wasn't felt on me.
 
Vic may have run WD like a sweatshop, and the company's ability to delay games almost makes me wonder if WD won't be shipping Duke Nukem Forever, but I gotta admit, the Sega CD and PSX Lunar games were great enough that I could almost forgive him if he one day got caught on video beating up puppies in front of a daycare.

Also, RayCrisis had a shiny cover.... ooooh.
 
Deku said:
I'm not here to dance on anyone's grave and I'm sure Vic and WD has a big following.

That said, I grew up on the SNES playing wonderful translations of Japanese RPGs handled by Enix, Square USA and Nintendo's internal staff. I owe nothing to Vic, and I suspect many of my generation who chose to play on a SNES, could care less about Lunar, the SegaCD and all that.

He's influence certainly wasn't felt on me.
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Well, aren't we just a stick in the mud.
 
Deku said:
I'm not here to dance on anyone's grave and I'm sure Vic and WD has a big following.

That said, I grew up on the SNES playing wonderful translations of Japanese RPGs handled by Enix, Square USA and Nintendo's internal staff. I owe nothing to Vic, and I suspect many of my generation who chose to play on a SNES, could care less about Lunar, the SegaCD and all that.

He's influence certainly wasn't felt on me.
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So bad break up then? Does he still have your cd's?
 
Deku said:
I'm not here to dance on anyone's grave and I'm sure Vic and WD has a big following.

That said, I grew up on the SNES playing wonderful translations of Japanese RPGs handled by Enix, Square USA and Nintendo's internal staff. I owe nothing to Vic, and I suspect many of my generation who chose to play on a SNES, could care less about Lunar, the SegaCD and all that.

He's influence certainly wasn't felt on me.
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If by "wonderful" you mean "mostly wrong" and "barely comprehensible in English," then I suppose you've got a point there.
 
john tv said:
If by "wonderful" you mean "mostly wrong" and "barely comprehensible in English," then I suppose you've got a point there.
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Which Square Enix and Nintendo SNES English RPGs have "mostly wrong" and "barely comprehensible" translations?

I would rather take FF6, Chrono Trigger, and Super Mario RPG translations than Lunar "WE ARE BORED SO WE ADD OUR OWN JOKES IN THE GAME" Silver Star and Eternal Blue thank you.
 
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Oogami said:
I would rather take FF6, Chrono Trigger, and Super Mario RPG translations than Lunar "WE ARE BORED SO WE ADD OUR OWN JOKES IN THE GAME" Silver Star and Eternal Blue thank you.
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Weren't the jokes they were replacing the ones that'd only make sense to people if they had alot of knowledge about Japanese culture? Considering that'd be the minority of those who played the game, what exactly is wrong with what they did?
 
FF6's second half was awful. The first half was barely above incomprehensible

SolidSnakex said:
Weren't the jokes they were replacing the ones that'd only make sense to people if they had alot of knowledge about Japanese culture? Considering that'd be the minority of those who played the game, what exactly is wrong with what they did?
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For Lunar, yeah. Most of the jokes people complain about in the Lunars are non-main storyline also
 
I think WD was great back in the day, and most would agree, but seriously, they've dropped the ball this gen. Personally I think the Lunar series is HIGHLY overrated. I went through the Sega CD releases at launch and found them alright, but couldn't even play through the PS releases out of sheer boredom. I love them for Popful Mail, Alundra, and some other old stuff, but all we've seen out of them in a few years of any note is Growlanser Generations, which is also mediocre. The niche they used to fill has been filled by Atlus and others now. I like how people are getting all upset because WD published some decent games TEN years ago.

I wouldn't WANT to see them gone, but would it really matter at all at this point?
 
Shouta said:
For Lunar, yeah. Most of the jokes people complain about in the Lunars are non-main storyline also
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They take away the "You are in the World of Lunar" feeling with those American pop culture jokes. Silver Star even had Austin Powers references in it, that's just bad.

But at least WD understand this and in an interview I read they seem to regret putting the jokes in Silver Star. Oh well.

The niche they used to fill has been filled by Atlus and others now.
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Yeah definitely. Atlus is much better than WD, as always.
 
Don't freak too hard. For some retarded reason we decided it would be a good idea to use last holiday weekend to install Server 2003's service pack 1 because it had "extra security" built right in. Bad idea. It's somehow incompatible with our existing hardware firewall, and we've spent the last week working to get it back up. Should be back tomorrow, since I think we almost have it.
 
Oogami said:
They take away the "You are in the World of Lunar" feeling with those American pop culture jokes. Silver Star even had Austin Powers references in it, that's just bad.
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You could make the same argument about the Japanese version of the game which has Japanese culture references to it. However, that's beside the point. Regardless of whether or not you like the jokes, there isn't denying how good WD is at translation.

Yeah definitely. Atlus is much better than WD, as always.
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Atlus is way too inconsistent even if they're timely. I mean look at Stella Deus. It was a fast turn around but the voice-acting was terrible and the script was really dry and akward.
 
Oh come. Rydia's Screeeeeam is more compelling writing than anything I've seen in supposed "good" translations.

(notable exception of Earthbound)
 
Shouta said:
You could make the same argument about the Japanese version of the game which has Japanese culture references to it. However, that's beside the point. Regardless of whether or not you like the jokes, there isn't denying how good WD is at translation.
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Hmm imo WD translation is only pretty good. Not the best or anything. Their voice-acting is mediocre too. Konami is much better than them in that regards.

Atlus is way too inconsistent even if they're timely. I mean look at Stella Deus. It was a fast turn around but the voice-acting was terrible and the script was really dry and akward.
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Still Atlus 'generally' do a good job on localizing though. And I would take their on schedule work than WD's.

Maybe I was just too harsh on WD but what's the last WD game and what will be their next? It's frustrating to see nothing is being done from them in such a long time.

Is Atlus a bigger company than WD or something?
 
Ah, Gaming-Age Forum. Mr. Ireland speaks up at last to clarify the situation, and you all go on arguing like nothing has happened. Oh Gaming-Age Forum, when will you ever learn?
 
Baron said:
Ah, Gaming-Age Forum. Mr. Ireland speaks up at last to clarify the situation, and you all go on arguing like nothing has happened. Oh Gaming-Age Forum, when will you ever learn?
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Hush! There are axes to grind and conspiracy theories to ponder! :)

Still Atlus 'generally' do a good job on localizing though. And I would take their on schedule work than WD's.

Maybe I was just too harsh on WD but what's the last WD game and what will be their next? It's frustrating to see nothing is being done from them in such a long time.

Is Atlus a bigger company than WD or something?
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Growlanser Generations, and from a list many months back, a ton of games even I'm mostly unfamiliar with. It's funny you mentioned Atlus, because they, and their neighbors Nippon Ichi were two of the treasure troves that got mined this generation while WD concerned themselves with other companies' offerings.

Atlus is fairly good sized; I can think of at least 3 continuing series over there, (with SMT having like 5 spin-offs).
 
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