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[Drensch]

Business casual. Dress business casual. Casual. 3 different things. The first is a joke, as a contrived idea, but at least it's disseminated-. Casual, afaik, is wear what you want. The seond one is some bizarre creation that I've never heard of, and nobody could explain it to me in a satisfactory manner.

Business casual is a joke, how is this :"khakis, collared shirt, and dress shoes required" much different than dress? What kind of uptight shit considers that in any way casual?

 

[Diablos]

I've been working for an insurance company this summer before I start my first year as a school psychologist. I follow the company handbook and come to work in slacks and dress shirts or polos every day, and I'm absolutely disgusted by the IT guys who wear ratty jeans, tennis shoes, etc. I'm not sure how they get away with it

Um, because a lot of us have to crawl around on the floor, move a lot of stuff around, and could benefit from wearing more flexible clothing when tearing a PC apart?

Don't start with us.

 

[Mashing]

As soon as you have to climb under desks to wire crap and work in 110 degree server rooms, then we'll discuss why IT guys wear jeans and a t-shirt.

That about wraps the IT attire story up.

Well except for the part about 110 degree server rooms... that's not good.

 

[RevenantKioku]

Well khakis > jeans. My dress shoes > * and I usually wear button shirts anyway (flannel in the winter, light cotton in summer) so buttoning them isn't so hard.

OF SALESMEN!

 

[Burger]

My dress code at work is "Wear whatever you please"

The funny thing is, most people come into work looking quite respectable. I can wear my Chucks and a hoodie if I want, I don't deal with customers too often, they don't seem to care.

My flatmate on the other hand was saying they have "Casual Fridays", but jeans are considered way too casual. I mean, WTF ?

 

[ChrisReid]

Business casual. Dress business casual. Casual. 3 different things. The first is a joke, as a contrived idea, but at least it's disseminated-. Casual, afaik, is wear what you want. The seond one is some bizarre creation that I've never heard of, and nobody could explain it to me in a satisfactory manner.

It's not that complicated. You're overanalyzing it and making a big deal out of a pretty reasonable dress code. "Business casual" means a more casual form of traditional business attire. Replace slacks and ties with polo/buttoned shirts and khakis. It's a great line to draw between stuffy and sloppy.

Business casual is a joke, how is this :"khakis, collared shirt, and dress shoes required" much different than dress? What kind of uptight shit considers that in any way casual?

I consider it quite casual, but nobody is suggesting "business casual" is anything at all similar to "lounge around at home or go to class casual." You're getting way to stuck up on the word. Business casual is more casual than business formal/traditional. It makes sense.

"Speed limit 25 miles per hour?! WTF!!! 25 mph isn't speeding!!! OMG MINDFUCKL"

 

[capslock]

Dress shirt and pants all the time here. Then again, I am at a reasonably senior position and have 50+ people and four depts. reporting to me. The most casual I go would be a polo shirt instead of a dress shirt once a week.

 

[capslock]

That about wraps the IT attire story up.

Well except for the part about 110 degree server rooms... that's not good.

Well, he stopped posting, his server probably crashed.

 

[SonnyBoy]

Um, because a lot of us have to crawl around on the floor, move a lot of stuff around, and could benefit from wearing more flexible clothing when tearing a PC apart?

Don't start with us.

Oh goodness! They used to make the techs here at UPS where slacks and a dress shirt year round. You HAVE NOT SEEN FILTH until you come into this warehouse. I'm not lying when I say that you'll find a PC with 3-4 inches of dust piled on it. HP makes so very robust equipment! :lol

 

[SonnyBoy]

Well, he stopped posting, his server probably crashed.

Get those offsite tapes running! :lol

 

[Myllz]

Lots of comments on the 110 degree server room. :lol

Not quite that bad, but it is hot. Right now it's at around 90, mainly due to one of our A/C's being in for repair. It's generally at around 80 degrees. The servers themselves are ice cold because the A/C's blast directly on them, but the room itself it hot.

 

[WasabiKing]

You notice it in the service industry too. Workers at fast food place that wear cleaner uniforms (no stains and have them tucked in) usually provide better service and are more attentive than the kids that have thier wrinkled shirts hanging out with stains all over them.

uh, no. Contrary to popular belief, the folks in the fast food service industry could give a shit whether they are wearing nicer clothes or not, because they're still getting paid an absolutely shitty wage. But it really creates that perception though, as illustrated above.

As for this issue, unless I have clients I'm seeing, I'm wearing whatever I want, and that includes dressing up for no apparent reason, or jeans and a t.

 

[Zaptruder]

There's an age-old idea that you perform like you dress. From sports (that's why players get chided for sloppy uniforms) to the workplace (hence a dresscode at even non-service jobs).

Sloppy dress means you are sloppy in your work.

I don't totally buy into the idea, but in my work experiences, those that paid more attention to thier dress also paid more attention to details.

Although the correlation might be there, this is a prime example of mistaking cause.

In this case, the probable cause is not that neater clothes makes for more organised workers, but that more organised workers have neater clothes.

In other words, superficial elements like clothing that have no real bearing on performance save as an external reflection on ones own studiousness with regards to clothing, don't have a real effect in making more productive workers.
On the otherhand, if you taught your workers to be more organised people...

 

[speshylives]

I was going to write a long bit about IT folks and rolling on the floor, but everyone covered it thanks. I'll just add that in all my years, I've found the optimal way to setup a PC is on the wall opposite the lan drop, obscuring the lan drop with a full file cabinet, buying office furniture without holes, and only putting power receptacles in every other cubicle.

Fuckers.

I've faced computer room AC units going out before. Not fun. Last company I worked for had a tiny computer room that hit about 100 degrees. Wound up setting up fans. Pushed cool air in through the bottomt, pulled out hot air through the top (edited because I goofed and had it reversed originally). Fun stuff.

 

[Myllz]

I've found the optimal way to setup a PC is on the wall opposite the lan drop, obscuring the lan drop with a full file cabinet, buying office furniture without holes, and only putting power receptacles in every other cubicle.

:lol

We must have the same management team.

 

[Dsal]

When did Generation X turn into Generation Y?

I think I missed it.

I'm in Generation X and my sister born 2 years after me seems to be in Y given all her sensibilities. So I suppose the cutoff point was sometime in 1977 or 1978.

We have a dress code here, and usually it isn't much of a problem for me, even though we're programmers that never interact with the outside world. But dang, it's been 90+ for the last month and I'd sure love to wear shorts to work on those days since our AC is insufficient.

Today's our company picnic and I at least got to dress like I used to at past programming jobs today: t-shirt and shorts. It sure is more comfortable...

 

[jobber]

I usually have either button down or shirt/tie and some slacks with some Nikes on. No one says at thing

 

[WasabiKing]

I usually have either button down or shirt/tie and some slacks with some Nikes on. No one says at thing

Dress shoes usually cost LESS than most of the Nikes out there.

 

[Mashing]

fricken double posts

 

[Mashing]

I was going to write a long bit about IT folks and rolling on the floor, but everyone covered it thanks. I'll just add that in all my years, I've found the optimal way to setup a PC is on the wall opposite the lan drop, obscuring the lan drop with a full file cabinet, buying office furniture without holes, and only putting power receptacles in every other cubicle.

Fuckers.

:lol :lol :lol

It's funny because it's SOOOO fucking true

 

[Mister Zimbu]

Dressing up sucks and is unnecessary in most work circumstances since it doesn't mean a thing. I don't mind a polo and khakis, but anything above that is overdoing it in most circumstances.

I hate tucking my shirt. I think it actually looks worse and is far less comfortable.

Ties are the most useless motherfucking invention on the planet and should be banned from everywhere.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

Lots of comments on the 110 degree server room. :lol

Not quite that bad, but it is hot. Right now it's at around 90, mainly due to one of our A/C's being in for repair. It's generally at around 80 degrees. The servers themselves are ice cold because the A/C's blast directly on them, but the room itself it hot.

Dude that fucking hot, my server rooms in Iraq which are in Tents mind you don't even hit 80 and it get to 120 out here daily.

 

[Myllz]

Dude that fucking hot, my server rooms in Iraq which are in Tents mind you don't even hit 80 and it get to 120 out here daily.

Our server room is a 15x10 room with solid concrete walls and no ventilation. The heat just floats in that room, despite the fans and A/C's. It's not the best room to keep servers in, but when we moved into the building it was the only room that was available to put the stuff in, and was in a central location.