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Would you rather support animals or people in need?

Animals or people in need?

  • Animals

    Votes: 37 50.0%
  • People in Need

    Votes: 37 50.0%

  • Total voters
    74

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
So a few years back, I saw a donation box for pandas and for kids in need. What I noticed is that the panda donation box is overflowing with money but the box for children in need is not even 1/4.

I’d like to ask, where do you stand and why?

Personally I stand with supporting humans than animals, especially since I got a kid, I learned more the value of human life, especially for those kids who are in need.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Humans if they seem like good people with a bad break. Animals if the humans involved are druggies who will use your money to buy booze and heroin.
 

Mistake

Member
The pandas are fine, what a waste. I’d support the kids, as I know how rough things get, but I don’t donate to anything unless I see exactly where the money is going
 

badblue

Gold Member
I'm more likely to help people locally, such as donating to the food bank, troubled youth center, Children's Hospital (etc) and local animal rescues equally more or less.

But once we start talking about international, almost all my support is towards animals/nature over people.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
This might be the wrong take, but maybe people are more trusting of animal charity with regard to their money actually going to the cause. Less skeptical of panda people. There's a reason I suspect this, but it would take paragraphs to articulate. So for the sake of brevity just pretend it's a hot take.
 

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
Animals.

I view them as more innocent and vulnerable. They don't even really have the ability to understand why they can't survive on their own, since their whole habitat has been destroyed. And they can't complain. And they don't feel sorry for themselves. Just trying to survive. And they're far cuter.

Humans in need I kind of keep that more in the realm of voting, government. I vote for policies to help people.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
This might be the wrong take, but maybe people are more trusting of animal charity with regard to their money actually going to the cause. Less skeptical of panda people. There's a reason I suspect this, but it would take paragraphs to articulate. So for the sake of brevity just pretend it's a hot take.
I think this is true for some people.

If someone donates $500 to an animal shelter, $500 probably goes a lot farther to helping animals than people. Donate $500 to food bank or guy on the street and by the end of the week he's still begging for another $500.
 

Punished Miku

Human Rights Subscription Service
Animals are more hardcore than humans when it comes to cruelty and violence, so you have to respect that and give them due.
I don't think animals really think about cruelty very much. Mostly a human emotion. Violence though is just nature.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Animals.

I can't even watch those animal cruelty, abuse, neglect commercials on TV. It sickens me. I'm watch commercials about humans in need and it's depressing but not nearly as depressing as the animals in need.

I would say both need help but if I had to choose first it would be animals.
 

Astral Dog

Member
Both.

But, yeah i would prioritize human life as well, its part of living in a society and i feel bad for those poor bastards
 
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TransTrender

Gold Member
Dog, cats, pets...don't give a shit about that in big picture.
Wildlife, and the environment they require to survive? Absolutely.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Living in a big city for years made me really jaded about “people in need” and the charity/activists who pretend to help them. And for what it’s worth, animals usually need help because people treated them abominably.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Living in a big city for years made me really jaded about “people in need” and the charity/activists who pretend to help them. And for what it’s worth, animals usually need help because people treated them abominably.

the charities/activists for animals are arguably even worse and more corrupt
 

Lasha

Member
I will always help Humans, particularly children, without hesitation. Its absolutely disgusting that most American municipalities have an animal control office or dog warden while few municipalities have even a single homeless liaison to help the less fortunate in their communities. The general obsession with pets and animal welfare is disturbing. People will happily spend thousands to make a stray dog fat while treating the poor and vulnerable as invisible. The attitude is really gross when these types travel to places with actual poverty. I've seen Americans haggle over a 2$ cab ride then turn around and spend 100$ to feed the street dogs (which are a nuisance to locals). The mindset that lets you walk past an elderly woman begging in the freezing cold then stop to check in on a "doggo" is reprehensible.
 
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nemiroff

Gold Member
"Would you rather eat or drink..?"

It's a false dilemma constructed by activists on the other side of the isle. I trust neither side. The topic is also a low hanging fruit for clicks and attention because..feelings. Be decent to humans and animals, it's that simple.
 
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NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
Too complex to give an honest answer.
You could argue animals can take care of themselves in their natural habitat, and the money is needed to protect them from harm from humans. Meanwhile people need money, education, shelter etc, and there’s times they can’t provide by themselves.
On the other hand, animals don’t put themselves in danger as whole species, while you can always argue people do have a choice in where they end up.
Moreover, the animals or people money is usually collected for are highly selected anyway. Money is collected for Africa all the time, everywhere; not so much for your local homeless people. Pandas and whales? A moneybox at every corner. Some weird, Cthulhu-looking thing that has no name in any language but Latin and its local dialect? Get extinct already, nobody cares.

So the choice comes down to gut feeling every time, and that feeling is highly manipulated anyway.
I believe that, were it not for the “save the planet, save the animals” campaigns of the last 50 years or so, the general public would never have given a shit about whales and pandas because of lack of awareness. But you almost always have people before your eyes that may need a dime or two.
 

Tams

Member
The pandas are fine, what a waste. I’d support the kids, as I know how rough things get, but I don’t donate to anything unless I see exactly where the money is going

It's actually a ploy (for good reasons) to get people to donate. Charities and organisations choose 'flagship' species to promote conservation (I swear there's a more derogatory term like 'honeypot species').

Most of the money goes on tangential projects that help the flagship species, but mostly help others, including humans because if the surrounding problems aren't addressed, then any help is at best a plaster (bandaid to you Americans).
 
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ShinFuYux

Member
I'm an ass, i wouldn't help anyone or anything.

No one has shown me that kind of compassion and empathy in my life. I've always had to do in it on my own, i had to work for what i wanted and needed. Even when I moved out on my own, no one in my family helped me find my own so place, help me move or do anything that made it easier for me.

People looked at me and simply assumed "he got it. He doesn't need any help."

Yeah, i could ask for help, which i have, and for some reason, these people who do help always bring it up in the future and say "remember that time i helped you". It's like, they are keeping score with the amount of times they did a good deed for me.

So, i rather avoid that and not ask for help.

Anyway, if i must pick one, I'd say animals.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
Animals.

Animals that are pets/domesticated or used for work really depend on us humans to look after them. Even some wild animals need help from us at times. Pets/domesticated/working animals would not survive on their own.

Humans can help themselves. I know it's not easy to be homeless, addicted, poor, etc but you can still try to turn your life around. You can ask for help...if you really want it enough. If you don't then there is nothing I can do for you.

My money/help would sooner go to animals than humans. Anyway I kinda hate humans. The less of us there are the better for the world. We are ruining the planet and the poor animals of the world need to suffer because of us. We should be trying to help them.
 
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Animals. My wife and I picked a 2-month old sick puppy with one eye in December. We did our best to help the poor creature, driving to the vet everyday but sadly he passed away on new year’s eve. Never been so heartbroken.
 
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nkarafo

Member
In my country humans are still protected by the law and we all have the same rights. And i'm pretty sure we all get some basic free healthcare. At the least, we all get treatment in an emergency situation. They don't just let people die on the streets.

Not so with stray animals. Everyone can hurt an animal for fun and most will get away with it. It's still illegal to harm animals but don't expect an army of officers and detectives to try and find you if you killed a cat. Animals also don't get any free treatment and have to rely on volunteers.

But if i had to volunteer? I would go for humans because i wouldn't be able to handle helping animals. The stuff i would have to see would make me angry enough to kill someone. People who torture animals for fun are the lowest scum on this earth IMO.
 
Animals are more hardcore than humans when it comes to cruelty and violence, so you have to respect that and give them due.
I'm not so sure. The heinous things that humans do during wartime, especially the human experiments done by the likes of Germany, Japan and other countries during WW2.

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Winter John

Member
I help out at the local soup kitchen a couple of times a month. I enjoy it you know. I like the guys who come in. Some of them got great stories. I’d still choose to donate to animals though. I feel like helping others should come first, but I guess I just have more sympathy for animals
 
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