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[Drinky Crow]

My wife's character -- a gay Alliance mage -- has that same face/haircut combo.

Say, could .hacked be a previously banned fellow who had Alex from Lunar as his avatar?

Tangentially, does anyone else hate folks who refer to their character as a "toon"? It doesn't get more limpwristed than that.

 

[akascream]

DOT stands for damage over time. Priest's shadow word pain is one of the best dots in the game. Dot him and run around.. as soon as he gets within melee range, fear him. Try to fear as little as possible cause you will run into diminishing returns and they will be immune (thist wears off fast though).

A great strategy to use with fear is to try and pvp near enemies.. if you aren't right by some, move towards them as you fight. If you get lucky and your fear moves him into enemies, then they damage him for you too.

Pally is kind of a pain with my warrior, but I love fighting them with my shammy.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Pally is kind of a pain with my warrior, but I love fighting them with my shammy.

shaman/warlock/mage/druid = my paly am crying.

 

[Monk]

BTW FTB do you use divine shield to break out of fear etc?

 

[.hacked]

Say, could .hacked be a previously banned fellow who had Alex from Lunar as his avatar?

Yes but I was only banned for a day or 2, I just switched to this account when I admitted I am morphix

Thought it was ok to change accounts if you were not banned.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

BTW FTB do you use divine shield to break out of fear etc?

no...rather save it as a "extra life", especially since i cant attack with mine.

 

[Ferrio]

Assassination rogues probably the worst dueling class (well besides the poor druids), we lose our chief strength.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Kick > Doug.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Assassination rogues probably the worst dueling class (well besides the poor druids), we lose our chief strength.

i hear feral druids suck ass after 30....but they are still great nukers in 1v1 duels

 

[Monk]

no...rather save it as a "extra life", especially since i cant attack with mine.

You should though for priests. Firstly most casters run when they see you invincible and close, and many spells require them to be facing the same direction.

For warlocks kill their pet first, that succubus is an annoying bitch.

Shamans are easy, just destroy their totems(except for that annoying one which slows your attack speed, use crusader to counter it)


Mages are a class i never had any problems with.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Priests are by far the best solo PVP class in the game. Use your shadowspec dot on em. Make sure you have your absorb up when the fight begins let them do their crap, dot, fear. Once they turn back they should never be able to recover the distance. The only class that could give you trouble is a hunter that has a pet to keep youbusy, but even then you got aoe fear so who cares. Pallys cant touch ya, shamans cant lick your balls, warriors and druids AHAHAH, and mages wont last long agaisnt you cause they got nerfed in beta. Trust me for duels priests are king of this game now, esp after the warrior nerf.

 

[RevenantKioku]

nothing gay about my paly.

I wouldn't be so sure. Did you ever do /dance?
That dance would get some carpet licked.

 

[akascream]

Shamans are easy, just destroy their totems

Heh, totems aren't very useful, aside from detecting stealth.

 

[akascream]

Group pvp is a blast too. Between my AE snare and the fear of our 2 warlocks and priest plus priest heals, we pretty much own. Snare + fear is a mean combo and having an AE combo like that rules heh.

hamstring + piercing howl + fear == /target bitch; /laugh

 

[Agent Dormer]

1) His name is SAMSON. It doesn't get more gay trucker porno than that.
2) He looks like a Tom of Finland character. Correction: you don't get more gay than THAT.
3) He's Alliance and he's a paladin. Corrected again: that's HOMO UBER ALLES.

:lol :lol

 

[borghe]

Again, what's a "dot"?

damage over time.

Warlocks are considered the Ace class in duels/1v1 if used right.

eh, sort of not really.. many warrior and paladin silences can devastate us.. I believe warriors or rogues have a method of breaking fear (don't quote me though), and even though I can get up to 300+ DPS it takes me probably 10 seconds to get there. fear serves two purposes.. gives me time while they are feared and time while the melees have to run back, so if I am fighting a ranged person (mage, warlock, hunter, etc) I lose out on part of the usefulness of fear....

warlocks are not indestructible.. I've actually been destructed quite a number of times..

 

[akascream]

Warriors can break fear and stuns.. in fact, I want to remember all classes are supposed to have a way out of stuns, but Im not sure on that.

 

[rod furlong]

do free action pots break fear?

 

[Gattsu25]

nothing gay about my paly.

Your a guy playing as a woman named Ganstahoe and you post on an online internet message board about videogames and sexual deviance :b

hey, Drinky Crow: there is an online forum ya know

 

[firex]

do free action pots break fear?

Not that I know of. Truth be told, I've never messed around with free action pots, but they're supposed to just make you immune to root spells from what I understand, though I've always heard they also make you immune to polymorph too for some reason. I doubt you could use one while being feared though... seems like only 2 abilities can be used then, neither of which should (divine shield and will of the forsaken).

 

[MrAngryFace]

I dunno, as a heavy potion using rogue, you better watch out.

 

[CrimsonSkies]

"C) Alliance is gay"

There is nothing gay about a dwarf.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Your a guy playing as a woman named Ganstahoe and you post on an online internet message board about videogames and sexual deviance :b

hey, Drinky Crow: there is an online forum ya know

yea, her name is still gangstahoe even tho i already stated blizzard changed it.

still dont see how what u stated makes my character gay...and if you are implying that i am....then thats nice. i care? no.

 

[Echoes of Pink]

Paly's get such a bad rap.

Paladins aren't really invincible or overpowered. I mean they lack a ranged attack so hunters and any spell caster can wear them down. Up close and personal, warriors and rogues are better fighters. The only thing that they really have going for them is their gift of survivablity which from their buffs, spells, and auras. Without mana a paly is done for.

All you have to do is figure out the angles and no enemy is invincible.


Also, I guess I might just be the only paly who isn't totally retarded cause thats all I hear about them.

 

[Drinky Crow]

Again, GRANTED, dwarves are the exception to Alliance gay.

 

[.hacked]

We are coming for ya!!

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Mind Control + Cliff

 

[Cathcart]

We are coming for ya!!

Even I think that's gay, and I play a NE female. Jesus, I'm splitting time between my tauren shaman and undead rogue for at least a week after seeing that.

 

[Drinky Crow]

.hacked is morphix?

 

[.hacked]

.hacked is morphix?

yes, I asked if I could post again, no one had a problem.

 

[Korranator]

shaman/warlock/mage/druid = my paly am crying.

Really? My lvl 33 shield pally owned a lvl 39 shaman today, and I didn't even need to heal. It's all about equipment, talent trees, and skills.

 

[Drinky Crow]

You've been off my Bad List for awhile, but you're still a total fruit.

 

[Malakhov]

pallies own rogues

:lol

No.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Really? My lvl 33 shield pally owned a lvl 39 shaman today, and I didn't even need to heal. It's all about equipment, talent trees, and skills.

and skill....that shaman probably sucked ass

:lol

No.

well rogues seem to be the one upset about them...everywhere i turn its rogues bitching about palys.

peace

 

[Malakhov]

and skill....that shaman probably sucked ass



well rogues seem to be the one upset about them...everywhere i turn its rogues bitching about palys.

peace

Nah, good pallies are a challenge for a rogue but they do not own a rogue if he knows what he's doing (kidney shots, gouges, blind pally and heal up, kicks etc..).

 

[.hacked]

I had a run in with a Horde cow a while back in SHV. I was around 37 and attacked that Horde guy that wandered the road. Out of no were this horde cow attacked me, I just shrugged her off and finished killing my target. When I was done I saw she was mid 40s and I still killed her gud!

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Alex]

His point is simply that mage jobs are typically a bigger thorn in Paladins side.

The whole rock/paper/scissors class balance in WoW would go Hybrid > Melee > Caster, at least in my experience. Not that dueling random idiots gives any idea of how balanced anything is. If you took that guy down at all, let alone without healing, you didn't kill a Shaman, Korr. You killed an idiot.

I killed a trio of folks 1-2 levels below me without stealth while traveling, it didn't really make me feel talented, it made me feel sorry for them if anything.

I've duo'd 1-45 with a Paladin, I know all their tricks and talents, and on top of it, I'm a susposed Paladin fodder Rogue, and I still dont think they're overpowered. I think when group PvP becomes a bigger happening, and Battlegrounds open, some folks are gonna change their opinion on Paladin.

Hopefully it'll also spur a Paladin makeover into decent support/tank builds, as grouping with a talented Pally is super helpful.

 

[Monk]

And if a pally knows what he will usually beat them not by much though. I changed my stance on the matter , pallies may not be overpowered, just warriors being underpowered. But pallies are still so gay to play.

 

[Alex]

Horde love to hate on Paladin, but as someone who constantly plays with a good one, let me tell you that a decent support/tank build will absolutely bust their ass on elite quests and instances.

Having a GOOD pally to tank multiple enemies, heal the entire party, cycle buffs and hate control abilities while juggling their own seals, auras and stuns is fucking great.

The USELESS Retribution children in conjunction with the retards who spend all their skills hacking at an immunity shield instead of stepping back and bandaging are what give the job a bad name, IMO.

 

[Monk]

I never disagreed with that. All i am saying is that they are gay to play. And warriors are great in groups too, they JUST SUCK HARDCORE in duels.


But a good pally can be just way too strong sometimes imo. I saw a lvl 60 pally beat 6 lvl 40's, that is just plain wrong. I personally have beaten 3 lvl 30-35s solo with a lvl 37 pally.


But that isnt really something to go by. Most player are just plain crappy. I have even seen some priests that refuse to heal.

 

[Alex]

I'm not sure how wiping idiots off the map is considered unbalanced. As I said above, I wiped out three people vastly clost to my level (I was 30, they were all 31-32), not a 20 level gap, without even starting off in stealth on my Rogue.

I've killed Paladins, good ones, multiple levels above me by the luck of the draw a few times.

My overall opinion on Paladin is: They almost all fucking suck, and since the suck ratio is damn near close to 100% on my server, I wish the good ones had an ability to retitle their class.

 

[Claus]

Again, GRANTED, dwarves are the exception to Alliance gay.

But I'm a Paladin so does that negate the non-gayness of dwarves?

 

[Monk]

That is my point, it is hard to say anything with the ton of idiots around. But from my experience playng the various classes, warriors do get kind of screwed. Warriors like get owned by everyone dueling.

 

[Ferrio]

LVL 56, i should be 58 by now but my connection has been horrible.... 1800 pings don't work.

 

[Tritroid]

I play as a Paladin and I have the hardest time dueling Rogues who are set right at my level.

Frankly I think Rogues are the overly powerful class right now, and it needs to be fixed.

 

[Fragamemnon]

I manhandle all but Undead Rogues, who have that Will of the Forsaken ability. Fight usually goes like this:

1) Rogue pops me, does a lot of damage or cheap shots me.
2) Throw up PW:S (they can't kick me to stop it)
3) Hit SW.
3) Renew yourself.
4) Hit Psychic Scream.
5) Now this is where the fun begins-immediately mind blast them (this is your first casted spell).
6) Depending on health, flash heal at this point if need be, else, target player and hit mind flay.
7) At this point fear is about to wear off and the player is going to be coming at you. Immediately turn away from them and running so they can only catch you when they use sprint. Usually takes them a few seconds to figure out, and in that time, you can refresh your SW (since it does NOT require LOS to use) and renew. SW kiting is an essential and very powerful tool in the priest arsenal.
8) Turn and hit mind blast when the cooldown has expired.

Now the rogue should be very close to death, and you've got a couple things going for you-your PW:S timer is probably back up, psychic scream isn't too long until it comes back up because of the time you bought DoT-kiting. You can fear them off again if needed and mindblast/mind flay, or go back to kiting them if they get all fancy in their pantsy with a potion or what not. Either way, the name of the game is keeping them away from you while you do your damage, which you have the tools to do.

 

[Alex]

Rogue is about the most balanced class WoW has at the moment, hardly overpowered just because you can't win duels, esp. when Paladins > Rogues in duels, despite what Mala says.

Unless a Rogue lands a perfect show, it's borderline impossible for me to take a *good* Paladin down, although I'm on Combat Rogue ATM, so I have an easier time with 2H Pallies over 1H. I had one tell me that disarming him was "unfair". That was kinda funny.

The worst is when people complain about a Rogue's stuns and escape tactics, stupidity abound.

 

[Crystalkoen]

I manhandle all but Undead Rogues, who have that Will of the Forsaken ability. Fight usually goes like this:

1) Rogue pops me, does a lot of damage or cheap shots me.
2) Throw up PW:S (they can't kick me to stop it)
3) Hit SW.
3) Renew yourself.
4) Hit Psychic Scream.
5) Now this is where the fun begins-immediately mind blast them (this is your first casted spell).
6) Depending on health, flash heal at this point if need be, else, target player and hit mind flay.
7) At this point fear is about to wear off and the player is going to be coming at you. Immediately turn away from them and running so they can only catch you when they use sprint. Usually takes them a few seconds to figure out, and in that time, you can refresh your SW (since it does NOT require LOS to use) and renew. SW kiting is an essential and very powerful tool in the priest arsenal.
8) Turn and hit mind blast when the cooldown has expired.

Now the rogue should be very close to death, and you've got a couple things going for you-your PW:S timer is probably back up, psychic scream isn't too long until it comes back up because of the time you bought DoT-kiting. You can fear them off again if needed and mindblast/mind flay, or go back to kiting them if they get all fancy in their pantsy with a potion or what not. Either way, the name of the game is keeping them away from you while you do your damage, which you have the tools to do.

This is a good strategy. I'll have to keep it in mind next time I find a priest looking for a fight.

Drinky: The big thing is your spec. If you're Holy spec, you're going to have a tough time with Rogues. If you're Shadow spec, then it evens out the fight. The big thing is getting your Psychic Scream on them, and doing a lot of damage during that time they're feared. If a rogue gets close to you, you have 4 seconds to live once your shield is gone. Maybe more if they're a dagger rogue.

As to Paladins, I'm a level 42 Orc Rogue, and I can safely say that it's a 50/50 fight with a good Paladin in PvP. Give me a level, and I win. Give him a level, he wins. That's from my experience. Obviously, results may vary based on skill of the Paladin.

 

[borghe]

The USELESS Retribution children in conjunction with the retards who spend all their skills hacking at an immunity shield instead of stepping back and bandaging are what give the job a bad name, IMO.

nod... between fear and immunity shield I ALWAYS have time to pop off a heavy mageweave bandage during a fight... what is even better is when the paladin isn't paying attention and.. and ..and... IMMUNITY SHIELDS WHEN I HAVE NO MANA!!! LOL!!! allow me to life tap ALL of my health, fear you when your immunity shield drops and then heavy mageweave bandage myself back to 1/2-2/3 life... I am now virtually refreshed for the entire battle YET again and he has just spent like what.. 20 seconds unable to do anything worthwhile??? lol....

 

[DonasaurusRex]

as a paladin you can lose to a rogue your level but it shouldn't be often, i own most rogues my level. Im 2 hand spec so maybe coupled with my gear and SoC i put up too much damage for them to survive. just get em good and low hammer of justice Seal of Command and its over. Also make sure you pick up spiritual focus talent, that combined with concentration aura means you cannot be interrupted while taking damage. Paladins are def the second best dueling class, with warlocks not far behind.