WSJ: Apple to increase iPhone screen size to 'at least' 4-inches

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I have no idea. I really can't see it being a genuine issue until you get to something like the Galaxy Note and I assume that's designed with that fact in mind (I've held one but not used one so I'm not sure).



At a point, it is true. I can't go diagonal to diagonal on a Note and I have big hands. Thing is, I can't imagine that ever being an issue in normal usage.


The Galaxy Note is awesome, its size was only a problem when you tried to type,but Samsung solved it with an update to add a "One Hand Operation mode", still I can see that that size is not for everyone at all. In the iPhone case, I don't really see Apple going for more than 4", not even 4.3", but at 4" I'm pretty confident that iOS will still be a joy to use
 
I have no idea what the "official" stance on it is, but I've heard it parroted by fanboys before. Stuff like "Anything larger than 3.5" is too big for your thumb to reach!"

I believe when they are saying that they mean the size of the phone, you could easily increase the screensize without making the phone bigger which would be perfect.
 
Yes, but so "the market has spoken" is bullshit, yes?
Not necessarily. Because of Apple's brand equity factor, I consider the Android market to be a more reliable proving grounds for new smartphone features.

No one will soon be as successful as Apple, but you can successfully compare everyone fighting for 2nd and 3rd against one another, and they experiment more with the variables.
 
I believe when they are saying that they mean the size of the phone, you could easily increase the screensize without making the phone bigger which would be perfect.

The phone would have to have a really bulky frame at 4.3 inches to be unreachable to the common thumb.
 
The market can't have spoken when the top selling smartphones are dominated by 3.5 inch screen phones. That doesn't make any sense.

Its the trend, the iPhone still is and will be in the near future the top selling phone, but the demand for big screen phones is increasing at a fast rate (even the Galaxy Note sold more than 5 millions units).
 
I am ok with this, as long as all the apps don't go fuzzy / need upgrades to look good again (being at the mercy of developers is shit).

Maybe it will make it a better eReader...
 
If Apple increases the size it wont be taller but with the same width, that would screw the aspect of the apps, and theres no chance in hell Apple would do that
 
It's going to be interesting to see where this company heads now that Jobs is gone. I'm perfectly happy with my phone size. I have an ipad when I want a tablet...I don't need a phone that's trying to be both that barely fits in my pocket and has a 3 hour battery life.
 
I don't give a rats ass about the screen size. I'm worried about the overall size of the phone. I don't want to carry a monstrosity.

Sorry, I mean a Samsung Galaxy Monstrosity.
 
I look forward to the new iPhone adverts talking about a larger screen like its something new & unique to iPhones.
 
It's going to be interesting to see where this company heads now that Jobs is gone. I'm perfectly happy with my phone size. I have an ipad when I want a tablet...I don't need a phone that's trying to be both that barely fits in my pocket and has a 3 hour battery life.

Pretty sure the Apple products we'll be seeing for the next couple of years were OKed by Jobs before he passed away.
 
So guess it will remain the same res (being a bigger screen, you'll hold it slighly further away, thus maintaining 'retina' spec)... right? Otherwise it's yet another res for apps to scale to...
 
So the 4"+ is actually a variant? They should call it "iPhone MEGA"

it's a play on "nano"
I think the iPhone 4/S will go the route of the iPad 2 as a cheaper option, on the side. Assuming they're really going with 4-4.3".. A lot of people love their 3.5", I can't see them killing that off entirely.

iLounge reported on a 4-inch iPhone 5 last week and said it would be 10mm taller, 2mm thinner, and retain the same width.
That is bogus. No way they change the aspect ratio as drastic as that iLounge rumor is saying.. I think they have many options in front of them and certain models/prototype ideas are getting leaked.
 
Even if they did, it's clearly untrue for average people. Certainly, the blanket statement that "human thumbs can't reach that far" is irreconcilably moronic. I have no idea where that meme originated from.
3.5 Inches
dcurtis said:
I've been wondering why Apple chose to make the iPhone 4's screen 3.5-inches when other comparable phones with Android and Windows Phone 7 have larger, more inviting screens. When you first see a phone with a 4-inch or larger screen, it seems like a much better experience. I thought it was a technical decision, and it could be, but since switching to an Android phone – a Samsung Galaxy S II, the “best Android phone you can buy, anywhere” – 15 days ago, I have realized another huge downside of larger screens: when holding the phone with one hand, I can't reach the other side of the screen with my thumb.

Touching the upper right corner of the screen on the Galaxy S II using one hand, with its 4.27-inch screen, while you're walking down the street looking at Google Maps, is extremely difficult and frustrating. I pulled out my iPhone 4 to do a quick test, and it turns out that when you hold the iPhone in your left hand and articulate your thumb, you can reach almost exactly to the other side of the screen. This means it's easy to touch any area of the screen while holding the phone in one hand, with your thumb. It is almost impossible to do this on the Galaxy S II.

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This is an example of one of those design decisions that you don't usually notice until you see someone doing it wrong. It's one of the things that makes Apple products Apple products.
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DaringFireball said:
Friday, 7 October 2011

WHAT MORE COULD YOU HAVE WANTED IN A HYPOTHETICAL ‘IPHONE 5’ TODAY?

A 4-INCH SCREEN? What sign has Apple ever given that it will ever change from the one-size-fits-all 3.5-inch screen? Every single iPhone and iPod Touch ever released has had the exact same size screen.

Now, maybe you would prefer a 4-inch screen. Or maybe a 4.5-inch screen. And maybe someone else would prefer a slightly smaller 3.25-inch screen. That’s not how Apple rolls, especially with iOS devices. There is no doubt that some people would prefer a bigger screen. But nor is there any doubt that many other people would not. I wouldn’t. I like to see things get smaller, not bigger. Bigger is not necessarily better. Apple decided on the optimal size for an iPhone display back in 2006. If they thought 4-inches was better, overall, as the one true size for the iPhone display, then the original iPhone would have had a 4-inch display. It’s not like 4-inch screens are harder to make, or use some sort of new technology. If anything they’re surely easier to make, as the pixels are less dense.

One big advantage of a 3.5-inch display: with average-size hands, your thumb can reach any pixel on screen more comfortably while holding the phone one-handed. Judging from my email, many proponents of bigger screens — those who are disappointed that the iPhone 4S doesn’t sport a 4-inch display — see no such trade-off. Bigger is better, period, they say, and anyone who says otherwise is in denial that Apple is falling behind its competition. But by that logic, 5-inch screens would be better than 4-inch ones, and 6-inch screens better still. That’s silly. Bigger is not necessarily better for handheld/pocket devices...
 
perhaps there is enough bitching between Apple haters who say they want 5" screens 'because android has them', and Apple fauners who spew 'can't be more than 3.5", our ickle fingers won't reach', that apple will make two phones with different sized screens to appeal to two different markets.

It is possible/likely that as market share grows they won't be able to sustain a 'one size fits all' single product.

Personally, I sometimes find 3.5" a bit small on my smartphone (not iphone) and ipod touch. But I wouldn't want to go much beyond 4". Galaxy note and the android screen size warz is getting a bit silly now.

I've been wondering why Apple chose to make the iPhone 4's screen 3.5-inches when other comparable phones with Android and Windows Phone 7 have larger, more inviting screens. When you first see a phone with a 4-inch or larger screen, it seems like a much better experience. I thought it was a technical decision, and it could be, but since switching to an Android phone – a Samsung Galaxy S II, the “best Android phone you can buy, anywhere” – 15 days ago, I have realized another huge downside of larger screens: when holding the phone with one hand, I can't reach the other side of the screen with my thumb.

Touching the upper right corner of the screen on the Galaxy S II using one hand, with its 4.27-inch screen, while you're walking down the street looking at Google Maps, is extremely difficult and frustrating. I pulled out my iPhone 4 to do a quick test, and it turns out that when you hold the iPhone in your left hand and articulate your thumb, you can reach almost exactly to the other side of the screen. This means it's easy to touch any area of the screen while holding the phone in one hand, with your thumb. It is almost impossible to do this on the Galaxy S II.

so don't put important buttons in those areas? for google maps you can scroll easily around without reaching all the way across the screen. For heavy interaction you'd probably use your other hand anyway. Don't see it being an issue really. Quoting things like Apple user guidelines for developers, suggesting its locked in stone is a bit simplistic too - Apple change stuff all the time.

If they do bump the screen, I hope they don't change the resolution again, unless they somehow align with the ipad (but then the aspect ratio is messed up)
 
I have no idea what the "official" stance on it is, but I've heard it parroted by fanboys before. Stuff like "Anything larger than 3.5" is too big for your thumb to reach!"

That's what it is huh? Personally, I still feel that 4" is too big. If the iPhone 5 has a 4" screen, it's less desirable to me. It's not thumb-related I should say. It's simply the fact that I don't want to carry around a large phone.
 
That's what it is huh? Personally, I still feel that 4" is too big. If the iPhone 5 has a 4" screen, it's less desirable to me. It's not thumb-related I should say. It's simply the fact that I don't want to carry around a large phone.

Exactly. I don't see why this so hard to grasp. Screen size directly impacts the overall size of the phone. I'm worried about the latter.
 
It's going to be interesting to see where this company heads now that Jobs is gone.

Indeed, we all know Jobs's vision was the main driving force there.

With strong rumours of a 7"ipad as well it does seem like they might be trying to cover all bases, 4-7" isn't that big a leap (penis gaglol) and people might not want a smaller iPad if they have a bigger phone.

They seem to be wanting to take on the Kindle Fire, Nook and coming Google tablet with the 7" form factor but many people would look at their 4" phone and think "it's good enough".
 
Exactly. I don't see why this so hard to grasp. Screen size directly impacts the overall size of the phone. I'm worried about the latter.

Hmmmmm, wanting a portable device to have a small form-factor sounds like fanboy talk to me. If you love Apple so much, why don't you just marry them?!
 
Don't forget it has to be 1280 * 1920. There are a million posts on this forum saying there's no way there'll be a size increase without a res increase and a million others saying that the only way that'll happen is if the res doubles, because tripling the original iPhone res is very anti-apple.
 
Don't forget it has to be 1280 * 1920. There are a million posts on this forum saying there's no way there'll be a size increase without a res increase and a million others saying that the only way that'll happen is if the res doubles, because tripling the original iPhone res is very anti-apple.
Is 1280x1920 on a 4" screen even possible now?
 
I dunno, my jeans are pretty tight and there's already quite a few inches in there. I'm not sure there's room.
 
Don't forget it has to be 1280 * 1920. There are a million posts on this forum saying there's no way there'll be a size increase without a res increase and a million others saying that the only way that'll happen is if the res doubles, because tripling the original iPhone res is very anti-apple.

What? Who said that? I think I'm one of the few saying there should be a res increase with a size increase (my argument is that its wasting useful space and making the icons into larger granny icons, but I think the latter argument is probably overblown since the iPad has tolerably large icons). Most seem to say that preserving the current res would still make it be between iPhone 4/4S and new iPad level of PPI.
 
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