https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/tr...insurance-options-for-self-insured-1507410483
Couple that with slashed outreach and a shorter sign-ups period a month out from open enrollment and this administration is in full on sabotage mode.
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WSJ: Trump to roll back ACA requirements with EOs next week
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https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/tr...insurance-options-for-self-insured-1507410483
Couple that with slashed outreach and a shorter sign-ups period a month out from open enrollment and this administration is in full on sabotage mode.
Wonder how the GOP is going to own it when premiums go up and coverage goes down because of Trump.
Garrett 2U
Member
See I told you it was failing!
"What did I tell you folks? Obamacare was a ticking time bomb set to explode. Blame the black man."
And done.
BobTheFork
Member
...do you really wonder?
"The Democrats didn't work with us and opposed measures that would really help Americans"
Remember, the GOP has been the party of anti-intellectuals since at least Ronald Reagan. They'll make up a spook and people who cling to the party of normalized terrorism will nod and agree without objection.
Knuckle Sandwich
Member
Just blame Obama and Democrats and hope people buy it.
Yeah. This is about making sure their statement is right and then lying about being the cause.
They'll blame the Democrats and their dumbass base will eat it up.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Americans for better or worse always blame the party in charge when shit goes wrong. It's the core reason why the pendulum effect exists in our politics.
Saw Andy Slavitt talking about this on twitter a few days ago.
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/916069859066286081
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/915419455894810625
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/916069859066286081
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/915419455894810625
Master Yoshi
Member
Shit like this is going to pass Republicare through. Disgusting.
TheContact
Member
Hes desperately searching for any kind of W. He can pretend like he thinks hes accomplishing something but he knows truly hes a fuck up. He cant do the wall or anything else he promised but the one thing he feels like he can pull off is fucking over as many middle and lower class people as he can before his 4 years are up. We chose this asshole.
Angelus Errare
Banned
And people ALWAYS do, from conservatives to moderates, to liberal folks.
Every.
Single.
Time.
j_k_redtail
Member
He has chosen the way of pain. Single payer it is.
More of Slavitt talking about what he dubs "Synthetic Repeal."
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/916370792925057024
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/916370792925057024
Skyline Owl
Neo Member
Fuck the American Taliban.
SoulUnison
Banned
"I can't beat this in rhetoric or support so I'll bludgeon it to death with the thing I complained my predecessor was making too overreaching a use of."
whyamihere
Banned
People blame the party in power, rightly or wrongly. Maybe not his super fans but they don't matter.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
We need to make noise like we made noise about them trying to pass a worse healthcare bill, so we know that whats gonna happen is entirely because of trump before him and the repubs try to blame something else.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
And 100% of the people who voted for him will eat it up.
Saint Gregory
Member
Trump is still counting on the Democrats to save the Republicans from themselves but even though we'll all suffer I hope that not a single Dem rep or senator helps them pass a new half assed healthcare bill.
What I wonder is how the morons complaining about the current high rates that somehow attribute it to Obamacare will respond when gutting the ACA only drives their costs that much higher.
The public now believes government has a responsibility to assure its citizens health care.
The GOP does not wish to accept this, and their only wall is gerrymandering.
Destroy this wall and these guys are effectively blowing the floor that they stand on.
It's either that or you're going to start seeing vigilantes shooting more Republicans, like what happened at that baseball field. People with nothing to lose have nothing to lose. I am deeply concerned about this, for while we can agree violence seems like a last resort, I can understand the motivations and reasoning of such attacks and threats onto the lives of GOP members in office. The person who threatened a GOP member via email comes particularly to mind.
That should scare the fuck out of anyone, because if you can have understanding with those who turn violent or threaten senators for "not having souls and selling the public down a river," you understand we've socially created the conditions for this to be seen as rational, and potentially, a trend.
Saint Gregory
Member
This is the thing that confuses me the most. There is no end game that delivers the Republicans a better plan than the ACA for their constituents. So what do they intend to do when premiums skyrocket? Hope those angry voters all die before the next election?
Either that or they accept that America "lives in a world where health care is a choice, because f r e e d o m."
Freedom, in this context, is often the inverse of what it's meant to be. Freedom from care. Freedom from treatment.
That's not freedom. That's oppression and tyranny.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
At this point they're just doing whatever they can to loosen the burden on their corporate masters. The entire Repblican party is just a scheme to fool poor people into lining the pockets of billionaires with more gold.
Karsticles
Member
Republicans have blamed Obama for the Iraq War. Everything is the fault of liberals.
They honestly don't care. They spent the last 17, probably even more, telling their base that it's all the liberals fault.
The just blame this on Democrats and their base will buy it like they always do.
In other words, we can expect single-payer healthcare and gun control legislation before too long?
Abstrusity
Member
To be completely honest? I'm not worried about it in the slightest. Do I want it to happen? No. But there is a turning point where only the irrational will sit down and take it, or simply wave signs around while the police beat you into submission if you're lucky, or throw you into prison (upward of 70 years) for being even tangentially positioned to someone throwing a rock into a window.
They are fishing for assassinations, they won't get the right to claim they didn't know what they were doing when they fish them up.
This isn't "oh well that's going to be a pain in the ass," when budget cuts make the DMV open for four hours a day four days a week instead of 9-5, 5 days a week, this is "My little sister will die if we can't afford to pay upfront for the surgery to remove an operable tumor," "My mother will die because she can't afford insulin, so she's been taking half her normal dose when she needs it instead of her full dose."
This is them coating their faces with foam and biting at people like a rabid dog, and there is only the one cure for late-stage rabies.
In a just world, yes.
But this requires a lot to happen.
- Gerrymandering must die.
- The Democratic party needs a vision for the 21st century beyond being an opposition block: there is much for them to do here.
- The GOP has to continue to self-implode.
- NRA clauses that prevent gun violence from being researched into must be revoked; I would say this is the first pillar to kill their grip.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
So much for working with the Democrats.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Fuck Donald Tump, actually.
This may make single-payer/universal-healthcare/medicare-for-all a wedge issue the Democrats can actually run on. They can say Obamacare was the compromise, the Republicans broke it, and healthcare is a right and they're the only party that can deliver it.
The GoP has two options in 2020: a) say that healthcare's not the domain of the govt., which is unpopular, or b) say that they can deliver healthcare better than the Dems, which their record from this term will kill them on. And that's more than a philosophical proposition, people will notice that their healthcare went missing over the years leading to 2020.
The GoP gained by simply obstructing and grandstanding on ACA, the Dems can do the same on ACA repeal, but everyone knows the Dems have an actual healthcare plan they can put forward in 2020.
That's my most optimistic take. That the pendulum swings back on healthcare.
The GoP has two options in 2020: a) say that healthcare's not the domain of the govt., which is unpopular, or b) say that they can deliver healthcare better than the Dems, which their record from this term will kill them on. And that's more than a philosophical proposition, people will notice that their healthcare went missing over the years leading to 2020.
The GoP gained by simply obstructing and grandstanding on ACA, the Dems can do the same on ACA repeal, but everyone knows the Dems have an actual healthcare plan they can put forward in 2020.
That's my most optimistic take. That the pendulum swings back on healthcare.
Bigboss242
Banned
Nope he is white so this equals more then the evil black Muslim antichrist has ever done in his entire term.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/8/16439492/trump-obamacare-association-health-plans
Vox put up an article explaining this issue as well. Glad to see this crap is getting some attention.
Vox put up an article explaining this issue as well. Glad to see this crap is getting some attention.