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[Hollywood]

Not watching RAW, but reading results. Apparently there was a 'debate' on America, and 9/11, and shit like that between JR and The King vs. two Arab American wrestlers (of course, these are the great ideas WWE comes up with). I can't imagine how gay this came off on TV. The 'rah rah America' stuff WWE does seems so stupid ... especially when they try to play CNN and have a debate on TV? Someone please tell me how gay this came off on TV. Can WWE come up with anything better these days than putting new wrestlers into nationality factions? Look, Japanese dudes, French dudes, Italians, Arab Americans ... such great ideas!

 

[BigJonsson]

Uhhh

Muhammad Hasan and Divari kick major ass

And have the best theme music ever

 

[mightynine]

From what I've seen, it's been another decent RAW so far. Two weeks in a row no less.

 

[Hollywood]

Maybe they can form a faction with Giant Gonzalez, Tennessee Lee, Mr. Fuji, and Wildfire Tommy Rich. Meanwhile we can have Lance Russell in the background ... 'What are these people doing out here! This isn't a scheduled interview!'.

 

[thefit]

Did they by any chance bring back Sergeant Sloughter, The Iron Sheik or Hacksaw Jim Duggan for any of this?


USA! USA! USA!!!

 

[mightynine]

Since many folks are on the West Coast, I'll just say that last bit with Regal was gold.

 

[BigJonsson]

Slaughter still works for the WWE


And Regal = the man

 

[DJ Sl4m]

Did they by any chance bring back Sergeant Sloughter, The Iron Sheik or Hacksaw Jim Duggan for any of this?


USA! USA! USA!!!

They may not have had enough coke on hand to lure them out of retirement ;P

 

[Hollywood]

Can someone explain to me why the last time I saw RAW Lita was getting raped by Kane, and he was trying to commit murder on her boyfriend .. and now she's all with him and stuff? WTF? I guess this is the WWE's guide to scoring chicks.

PS - Thanks for the nice tag ... :lol

 

[Lyte Edge]

The Regal part was the best segment in the show by far. :lol

I like how Hassan has been in the WWE for a few weeks now, and has yet to have a match, but has beat up the old timers (JR and The King), interrupted Foley, and gone after Stacy Keibler. Way to build him up.

I also love how the crowd is doing "USA, USA!" chants WHEN HASSAN IS AN AMERICAN. :lol They really need to get him to say something in response to that.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think the debate came of well, JR and King did not come off as stupid as they could have as they partialy agreed Hasan and Divari. Also, Hasan and Divari re getting alot a reaction and are HUGE heels at the moment and they havent even wrestled a match!

But in other more important news

Lindsey Lohan + CD Player + Eugene + Regal + Christy = Comedy Gold :lol

 

[Lyte Edge]

Can someone explain to me why the last time I saw RAW Lita was getting raped by Kane, and he was trying to commit murder on hher boyfriend .. and now she's all with him and stuff? WTF? I guess this is the WWE's guide to scoring chicks.

Makes no sense, doesn't it? That's WWE storyline continuity for you. Note how JR was saying how sick it was in the way Snitsky took out Kane, when Kane did the SAME THING to Shawn Michaels earlier in 2004, "destroyed" Matt Hardy during the "wedding," and "burned" JR himself back in 2003.

My guess is that Matt Hardy returns, one of three things will happen:

-Kane turns heel and does something to Lita again.
-Kane turns heel and then Lita turns heel on Matt Hardy.
-Matt Hardy becomes the heel and feuds with both Kane and Lita.

Oh and is it just me, or does Snitsky get dumber/uglier looking every week? The guy is in desperate need of an image makeover.

 

[Hollywood]

Raw still cannot beat Smackdown ... comeon .. everyone now ...


J B L!

J B L!

J B L!

BTW there have been 0 terrorists attacks since JBL has been WWE Champion.

 

[Outcast2004]

Makes no sense, doesn't it? That's WWE storyline continuity for you. Note how JR was saying how sick it was in the way Snitsky took out Kane, when Kane did the SAME THING to Shawn Michaels earlier in 2004, "destroyed" Matt Hardy during the "wedding," and "burned" JR himself back in 2003.

My guess is that Matt Hardy returns, one of three things will happen:

-Kane turns heel and does something to Lita again.
-Kane turns heel and then Lita turns heel on Matt Hardy.
-Matt Hardy becomes the heel and feuds with both Kane and Lita.

Oh and is it just me, or does Snitsky get dumber/uglier looking every week? The guy is in desperate need of an image makeover.

Well Lyte considering it's WWE "logic" it will be option 2.

One the same note... look for HBK to turn heel this Sunday and help HHH win the belt, completely disregarding 2+ years of fueding. Good thing TNA is on for good wrestling...

 

[Pimpwerx]

Is it too late to jump on the Batista bandwagon? I'm liking his character. He's gotta talk louder, but he could be good assuming WWE doesn't fuck up his angle. Oh well, wishful thinking. :lol And why the hell is Lawler and his beer belly gonna be in the ring again? What and attention whore. :lol PEACE.

 

[bishoptl]

It's NEVER too late to join the Batista bandwagon! He's gone from being green as a Granny Smith to not only holding his own in the ring with the vets - but developing his character, in-ring and out. This slow turn is coming along perfectly.

 

[LakeEarth]

Can someone explain to me why the last time I saw RAW Lita was getting raped by Kane, and he was trying to commit murder on her boyfriend .. and now she's all with him and stuff? WTF? I guess this is the WWE's guide to scoring chicks.

Here's the logic behind it. Lita hates Kane and is forced to marry him. Then Stinksky starts abusing her, and Kane saves her a couple of times. Thus, everything is fixed and they are in love again.

Take that Cubsfan! The real way to a woman's heart is to rape that woman, impregnate her, then get someone to attack her until she miscarries, and save her from him. Thank you, WWE!

 

[Outcast2004]

Pimpwerx, if they are going to do something with Dave " The Big Angry Care Bear" Batista they better do it soon. The guy doesn't have alot of years in front of him. He was an extremely old rookie and is already 35.

While I am liking what they are doing lately with the slow burn of Evolution collapsing, I know Vince will SOMEHOW fuck it all up in the end. He always does.... NWO anyone? WCW Invasion? I could name his "sure things" that turned out to be utter failures all night.

Well Vince will have another opportunity come June.... ECW PPV at the Hamerstein Ballroom in NYC. Watch ECW's legacy get urinated all over by Vinnie Mac.

PS: To Randy Orton and HHH, fuck off and die.. we are all sick of both of you... get off my screen.

 

[Hollywood]

Pimpwerx, if they are going to do something with Dave " The Big Angry Care Bear" Batista they better do it soon. The guy doesn't have alot of years in front of him. He was an extremely old rookie and is already 35.

While I am liking what they are doing lately with the slow burn of Evolution collapsing, I know Vince will SOMEHOW fuck it all up in the end. He always does.... NWO anyone? WCW Invasion? I could name his "sure things" that turned out to be utter failures all night.

Well Vince will have another opportunity come June.... ECW PPV at the Hamerstein Ballroom in NYC. Watch ECW's legacy get urinated all over by Vinnie Mac.

PS: To Randy Orton and HHH, fuck off and die.. we are all sick of both of you... get off my screen.

Well you gotta give it to Vince. At least he's not playing McMahon vs. McMahon, faction vs. faction BS llike he did in the past 24/7. Then again, Triple H McMahon is still out there, so I guess its not 100% true. BTW anyone noticing Vince is getting a little old? I saw him on the Christmas in Iraq thing ... and he's starting ot age a little.

 

[Outcast2004]

The years of Roids are finally starting to catch up with the old fart.... you have noticed he's gone senile for good udeas over the past few years right?

EDIT: did I see what I think I just saw? Randy Orton looking like he was trying to fellate a fan in the first row. Randy I always have wondered about you, you fruity bastard you....

 

[Keyser Soze]

Good thing TNA is on for good wrestling...

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Atari2600]

Just answering the thread title, and not even reading the post...
After 6 years of watching WWE and attending probably 6 shows - yes, they can be that stupid, and if you give them long enough, they can get even more stupid.

 

[Hollywood]

The years of Roids are finally starting to catch up with the old fart.... you have noticed he's gone senile for good udeas over the past few years right?

EDIT: did I see what I think I just saw? Randy Orton looking like he was trying to fellate a fan in the first row. Randy I always have wondered about you, you fruity bastard you....

He's lost touch with the crowd. He only listens to about 3 people, including Triple H and Stephanie .. so what do you expect? And then they get rid of their best guy in Paul Heyman.

 

[Outcast2004]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Keyser laugh it up ... X divison bitches. Aj Styles, Petey Williams, Primetime, Michael Shane, Frankie Kazarian CHRISTOPHER FUCKING DANIELS! Their roster is SO loaded with great in ring talent it's unreal.

Best match of the year was Turning Points 6 sides of steel match. A tag match, not for belts, in a 2+ year feud to an end... as the main event ON PPV.

As a fan of 25+ years, the Canadian Destroyer is the SICKEST move I have ever seen.

EDIT: This one's for you Paulie! Too bad the are going to piss all over your baby come June..... If only you were better with money Paul... if only. *tear*

 

[Socreges]

WTF? Is WWE really this fucking stupid?

No, but perhaps many of their fans are. Now, let me explain! I think the WWE is, in fact, quite smart, and knows how to appeal to their fanbase. Secondly, that's not to suggest that intelligent people, such as bishoptl )), cannot enjoy the WWE. I'm only speaking in general terms.

If you're going to flame/ban me, at least respect that I was on topic!

 

[mightynine]

Is it too late to jump on the Batista bandwagon? I'm liking his character. He's gotta talk louder....

Actually, I've always preferred when wrestlers use their inside voice instead of yelling every sentence.

That said, he's brought the perfect approach to that character these days. Only problem is, will it work as well without Triple H to play it off of?

 

[Keyser Soze]

Keyser laugh it up ... X divison bitches. Aj Styles, Petey Williams, Primetime, Michael Shane, Frankie Kazarian CHRISTOPHER FUCKING DANIELS! Their roster is SO loaded with great in ring talent it's unreal.

Yah the X-division is fantastic and about 20 minutes of great action when ever it is on, but the fact is there is another 1hour 30 of crap after that with washed up WCW wresters of 5 years ago clogging up the rest of the show. The booking in TNA has gone to complete shit and there a booking guys into the main event that will not be with the company in a few months. What they should be doing is booking the younger guys, the ones you named into these spots and then I may become a fan again.

If you want to say a show is good for wrestling ROH is the first place you should, look they have/had most of TNA's good stars and a nice selection of stars of their own they helped build themselves. ROH was noting a few years ago and have made a great name for themselves in a short time

Right now I would rate the shows as ROH first, WWE second the English based FWA third and TNA last in terms of entertainment. By entertainment I mean wrestling combined with storyline and slight comedy. WWE does have the best mix of those but ROH wins on the pure wrestling factor.

TNA has nothing to catch my attention except the x-division but you are right the Canadian Destroyer does kick ass. The first time I saw it I had to rewind it about 20 time and each time I saw it was goin WTF just happed, god damn you Petie Williams I was just expecting a normal piledriver

 

[Hollywood]

No, but perhaps many of their fans are. Now, let me explain! I think the WWE is, in fact, quite smart, and knows how to appeal to their fanbase. Secondly, that's not to suggest that intelligent people, such as bishoptl )), cannot enjoy the WWE. I'm only speaking in general terms.

If you're going to flame/ban me, at least respect that I was on topic!

WWE treats its fans very stupid. To WWE if you are a fan:

1) You have to be shown video of what happened last week 7 times during the show. And then what happened earlier in the same show 7 times.

2) And even though you have seen the same clips 50 times by the night is over, they alsoi expect you to forget anything that has happened in the past two weeks.

3) Common logic plays no role in WWE TV. If a man is thrown in a burning dumpster, he returns the next week without a mark on him. If a man hooks up a battery to your testacles, and electrocutes you, you are not charged for assualt. If you trespass or break a restraining order, you are immediately arrested and thrown in jail.

4) You will be beat with the phrase of the week 4,000 times during the telecast. EX: 'Do the RIGHT thing', 'Ruthless Aggression', 'Tazz can you believe Kurt Angle called JBL bucko???'.

5) Hyping every event like you have never seen it. 'Cole, I dont think I've ever seen a man like Nunzio take it to the Undertaker like this!'.

6) If you are in a match with Rey, you will 'fall' in position for the 619, 200 times during the match .. but a wrestler will never fall into that position in any otrher match ever.

7) In WWE's world, everyone in the world watches them .. and fans come up to guys like Rene Dupree and laugh at him wherever he goes for what happened last week on Smackdown. whatever that was.

8) Ric Flair has never hit a top rope move in his 30 year career, but tries one every match.

 

[Keyser Soze]

WWE treats its fans very stupid. To WWE if you are a fan:

1) You have to be shown video of what happened last week 7 times during the show. And then what happened earlier in the same show 7 times.

2) And even though you have seen the same clips 50 times by the night is over, they also expect you to forget anything that has happened in the past two weeks.

So does everyone drama/action program on TV, infact the first few minutes of everyone of them is a rundown of last week and the weeks before, also every time a action/drama program comes back from a ad break they repeat what happed just before they went to a ad break

6) If you are in a match with Rey, you will 'fall' in position for the 619, 200 times during the match .. but a wrestler will never fall into that position in any otrher match ever.

They fall for Jericho to, ha ha you have been forsnichend*!! (*Robin Hood Men In Tight Reference)

8) Ric Flair has never hit a top rope move in his 30 year career, but tries one every match.

It is wrestling not the latet thriller movie to hit cinemas worldwide, lighten up!

Statements 3), 4), 5) and 7)

Erm, I will get back to you........

 

[Hollywood]

So does everyone drama/action program on TV, infact the first few minutes of everyone of them is a rundown of last week and the weeks before, also every time a action/drama program comes back from a ad break they repeat what happed just before they went to a ad break


Erm, I will get back to you........

I don't remember a movie/action show where a guy is trying to kill you one second, then later on is teaming with you. Or even better, a girl getting raped essentially .. then her becoming the guys wife. That's WWE logic for you.

 

[Outcast2004]

Yah the X-division is fantastic and about 20 minutes of great action when ever it is on, but the fact is there is another 1hour 30 of crap after that with washed up WCW wresters of 5 years ago clogging up the rest of the show. The booking in TNA has gone to complete shit and there a booking guys into the main event that will not be with the company in a few months. What they should be doing is booking the younger guys, the ones you named into these spots and then I may become a fan again.

If you want to say a show is good for wrestling ROH is the first place you should, look they have/had most of TNA's good stars and a nice selection of stars of their own they helped build themselves. ROH was noting a few years ago and have made a great name for themselves in a short time

Right now I would rate the shows as ROH first, WWE second the English based FWA third and TNA last in terms of entertainment. By entertainment I mean wrestling combined with storyline and slight comedy. WWE does have the best mix of those but ROH wins on the pure wrestling factor.

TNA has nothing to catch my attention except the x-division but you are right the Canadian Destroyer does kick ass. The first time I saw it I had to rewind it about 20 time and each time I saw it was goin WTF just happed, god damn you Petie Williams I was just expecting a normal piledriver

Keyser, to each their own I guess. But to be honest I haven't seen any of the ROH stuff (i know, I should be banned from watching wrestling, whic is odd as I love Japanese wrestling), but for a national company with TV TNA is the better alternative for me. I get more out of their show, as I don;t feel talked down to like I do with WWE.

I will be ordering Final Resolution, as their last 2 PPVs have been heads above anything Vince has doen lately. ESPECIALLY the abysmal Smackdown PPV's, god they are awful shows.

The way the WWE talks down to their audience is embarrising. We're not all dumb redneck hicks who think "wrasslin" is real. Some of us are well educated professional types who are life-long fans and folow the product, good or bad.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Keyser, to each their own I guess. But to be honest I haven't seen any of the ROH stuff (i know, I should be banned from watching wrestling, whic is odd as I love Japanese wrestling), but for a national company with TV TNA is the better alternative for me. I get more out of their show, as I don;t feel talked down to like I do with WWE.

I will be ordering Final Resolution, as their last 2 PPVs have been heads above anything Vince has doen lately. ESPECIALLY the abysmal Smackdown PPV's, god they are awful shows.

The way the WWE talks down to their audience is embarrising. We're not all dumb redneck hicks who think "wrasslin" is real. Some of us are well educated professional types who are life-long fans and folow the product, good or bad.

I respect what you say, I probably enjoy watch all the matches you like watch (epically some Japanese stuff) but I am not bothered about the source of the matches at all. I would Enjoy a Benoit/Angle if it was only available on TNA. I would enjoy Lo Ki/Samoa Joe match if it were only available on NOAH. I would enjoy and AJ/Petey Williams match if I could only see it on WWE and I would enjoy Jushin Thunder Liger/Christopher "Curry Man" Daniels match if it was only available via ROH. I just like great quality wrestling no matter where it comes from.

I just can’t stand bad quality slow wrestling and TNA is producing some of that now. WWE was producing it a lot when Hogan, Nash, Steiner and Hall made there short returns but they are getting a bit away from it now but still neiter TNA or WWE are perfect at the moment and both could get better. BTW you should really watch a bit of ROH I have a hunch you would proably like it.

 

[Minotauro]

Outcast, you should really go out of your way to see some ROH. They have all the best parts of TNA and none of bad ones.

 

[bobble]

They better not turn Batista for months! Slow burn is the way to go. Hopefully they learned when they totally screwed up the Orton turn

And on the topic of ROH - I can't wait to see the Aries/Joe match!

 

[Keyser Soze]

I don't remember a movie/action show where a guy is trying to kill you one second, then later on is teaming with you. Or even better, a girl getting raped essentially .. then her becoming the guys wife. That's WWE logic for you.

Kung Pow: Enter The Fist....

Fear EVILLLLLL Betty!!!

 

[MC Safety]

I also love how the crowd is doing "USA, USA!" chants WHEN HASSAN IS AN AMERICAN. :lol They really need to get him to say something in response to that.

Yes, but all "ethnic" wrestlers, be they from parts unknown or the state of insanity, cannot stomach hearing "USA, USA!"

It's their Kryptonite.

 

[Raw64life]

The main event made me really happy, not because of the wrestling, but because it's now that much less likely that Orton vs HHH will happen at Wrestlemania. Knowing WWE, they still might make that the main event despite having them fight 1 on 1 on RAW two months before WMXXI so they can kill any hype an Orton/HHH match might have had beforehand.

 

[Hollywood]

When Orton vs. HHH is your main event for Wrestlemania .. there's problems.

 

[Lyte Edge]

The main event made me really happy, not because of the wrestling, but because it's now that much less likely that Orton vs HHH will happen at Wrestlemania. Knowing WWE, they still might make that the main event despite having them fight 1 on 1 on RAW two months before WMXXI so they can kill any hype an Orton/HHH match might have had beforehand.

Er...I thought it was pretty much confirmed that it will be

Spoiler

Orton/HHH and JBL/Cena

at Wrestlemania, with the latest rumor being that due to some sort of stipulation or something that goes down on the following RAW with the roster trading, that

Spoiler

Orton would go to Smackdown! and Cena would go to RAW.

 

[Hollywood]

Hogan at Wrestlemania 21 I hear. I'm pumped. HOGAN vs. JBL .. take the title back Hulk!

 

[Brian Fellows]

Keyser laugh it up ... X divison bitches. Aj Styles, Petey Williams, Primetime, Michael Shane, Frankie Kazarian CHRISTOPHER FUCKING DANIELS! Their roster is SO loaded with great in ring talent it's unreal.

Best match of the year was Turning Points 6 sides of steel match. A tag match, not for belts, in a 2+ year feud to an end... as the main event ON PPV.

As a fan of 25+ years, the Canadian Destroyer is the SICKEST move I have ever seen.

Yep TNA has loads of talent. But all those guys put on much better matches in other indy's. There isn't much psychology, selling, or grappling in TNA matches. They are just a random collection of spots and reversals till someone gets a pin.

Alex Shelley is a great example. I thought the kid pretty average when he was being pushed as part of Goldylocks stable. Then I saw him in Ring of Honor and he was like a little Malenko with all the diffrent submission holds.

 

[bobble]

TNA wastes more talent then WCW ever did

 

[Meier]

Yes, but all "ethnic" wrestlers, be they from parts unknown or the state of insanity, cannot stomach hearing "USA, USA!"

It's their Kryptonite.

:lol :lol This made me laugh out loud. Bravo.

 

[Shinobi]

Also, Hasan and Divari re getting alot a reaction and are HUGE heels at the moment and they havent even wrestled a match!

Let's be fair...you could have a 10 year old invalid step into the ring, show the photo of his dead parents, then blame his problems on the USA, and he'd get booed out of the arena. :lol Dissing the USA or attacking JR are the two surest and cheapest ways to get heat.

Raw still cannot beat Smackdown ... comeon .. everyone now ...


J B L!

J B L!

J B L!

BTW there have been 0 terrorists attacks since JBL has been WWE Champion.

:lol :lol :lol

WWE treats its fans very stupid. To WWE if you are a fan:

1) You have to be shown video of what happened last week 7 times during the show. And then what happened earlier in the same show 7 times.

2) And even though you have seen the same clips 50 times by the night is over, they alsoi expect you to forget anything that has happened in the past two weeks.

3) Common logic plays no role in WWE TV. If a man is thrown in a burning dumpster, he returns the next week without a mark on him. If a man hooks up a battery to your testacles, and electrocutes you, you are not charged for assualt. If you trespass or break a restraining order, you are immediately arrested and thrown in jail.

4) You will be beat with the phrase of the week 4,000 times during the telecast. EX: 'Do the RIGHT thing', 'Ruthless Aggression', 'Tazz can you believe Kurt Angle called JBL bucko???'.

5) Hyping every event like you have never seen it. 'Cole, I dont think I've ever seen a man like Nunzio take it to the Undertaker like this!'.

6) If you are in a match with Rey, you will 'fall' in position for the 619, 200 times during the match .. but a wrestler will never fall into that position in any otrher match ever.

7) In WWE's world, everyone in the world watches them .. and fans come up to guys like Rene Dupree and laugh at him wherever he goes for what happened last week on Smackdown. whatever that was.

8) Ric Flair has never hit a top rope move in his 30 year career, but tries one every match.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[DMczaf]

8) Ric Flair has never hit a top rope move in his 30 year career, but tries one every match.

I love it when the King calls this out

"Noooo Flair! It never works! Don't do it! Nooooooo!"

 

[Hollywood]

I don't even think he's even gotten one off before. The guy is always there to throw him off before he jumps. Jesus, what move would he do anyway if that time came? A Shooting Star press? :lol

 

[DMczaf]

I don't even think he's even gotten one off before. The guy is always there to throw him off before he jumps. Jesus, what move would he do anyway if that time came? A Shooting Star press? :lol

:lol WWE should have a match where he finally makes it to the top of the turnbuckle before the guy gets up, and then have Flair look confused as if he doesn't know what to do next.

 

[Raw64life]

Er...I thought it was pretty much confirmed that it will be

Spoiler

Orton/HHH and JBL/Cena

at Wrestlemania, with the latest rumor being that due to some sort of stipulation or something that goes down on the following RAW with the roster trading, that

Spoiler

Orton would go to Smackdown! and Cena would go to RAW.

It's not completely confirmed yet. There's talk of Vince cancelling the

Spoiler

JBL/Cena

match because he wants JBL to have a longer title reign (god knows why). According to Meltzer, Vince thinks that JBL is great because he always gets his ass kicked yet still pulls out the win and people keep watching to see when he'll finally lose. Only problem with that is rating and PPV buyrates are spiraling down to all time lows. You think Vince would cnacel his push after seeing the numbers, but no.

Also, I don't care who TNA has wrestling for them. If the match is taking place in a 6-fucking-sided ring, I'm not watching it. They are never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to make it to the big time wrestling in that goofy broken ass ring.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Sweet I just aquired one of Low-Ki's(that guy in my avatar) matches in the WWE. He takes on the mighty Essa Rios in a match on WWF Metal. If its the one I've seen part of before he gets in some decent offense. Low Ki is a god among men....he's just a little too stiff for the WWF.

 

[Hollywood]

Keep JBL as champ! He's hilarious. I gotta admit, when he first won the title I was pissed ... but he's funny! Hell buyrates are going to the shitter on everything, both RAW and SD PPV's so its not just one certain person. What's funny is he's beat almost every major guy on the roster so far. Eddie, Booker, Taker, and now Angle and Big Show up next. A title vs. title, JBL and Cena at Wrestlemania would be pretty cool though.

EDIT - BTW IDK why people are blacking out rumored matches. It's not like their true inside info or anything .. lol