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[Keyser Soze]

Sweet I just aquired one of Low-Ki's(that guy in my avatar) matches in the WWE. He takes on the mighty Essa Rios in a match on WWF Metal. If its the one I've seen part of before he gets in some decent offense. Low Ki is a god among men....he's just a little too stiff for the WWF.

Yeah, both AJ Styles and Low Ki were on Metal at least once, I cant see any reason why the WWE would not have agve them at least a development contract back then. Even if they showed only a small hint of the talent they have now someone should have noticed it a picked them up.

But I supposed it was better the way in transpired with Low Ki there may have been no ROH if he got into the WWE. It’s mainly because of his matches during their first years that they got popular.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Yep Hurricane/Styles is next on the block.

*EDIT* Well I just watched this match. Unlike Ki in his match with Rios poor AJ got in hardly no offense at all. But atleast Hurricane gotta use the vertebreaker.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

It's not completely confirmed yet. There's talk of Vince cancelling the

Spoiler

JBL/Cena

match because he wants JBL to have a longer title reign (god knows why). According to Meltzer, Vince thinks that JBL is great because he always gets his ass kicked yet still pulls out the win and people keep watching to see when he'll finally lose. Only problem with that is rating and PPV buyrates are spiraling down to all time lows. You think Vince would cnacel his push after seeing the numbers, but no.

Wrestling elitists will find any way to spin their opinion.

Really, blaming JBL as Smackdown's reason for falling buyrates and ratings is silly. Smackdown as a whole is the worst wrestling program on television in decades. JBL is the only reason I care about that show at all, and I know I'm not alone with that. Kurt Angle is 1/4th of the man he used to be, and Carlito isn't around lately. I want JBL to be champ forever as long as he's still as hilarious as he is right now.

Everyone hated JBL at the start, but you really have had to have avoided Smackdown completely these last few months to not think he's the greatest character they have on either shows right now. He still blows as a wrestler, but we've been used to this by pretty much every other WWE champion for decades.

In Iraq: "I know you guys want to chant my name, but the enemy could hear us, so just whisper it. j... b... l... j... b... l... shh, not too loud!"

 

[VictimOfGrief]

I would venture to say.... yes.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Wrestling elitists will find any way to spin their opinion.

Really, blaming JBL as Smackdown's reason for falling buyrates and ratings is silly. Smackdown as a whole is the worst wrestling program on television in decades. JBL is the only reason I care about that show at all, and I know I'm not alone with that. Kurt Angle is 1/4th of the man he used to be, and Carlito isn't around lately. I want JBL to be champ forever as long as he's still as hilarious as he is right now.

Everyone hated JBL at the start, but you really have had to have avoided Smackdown completely these last few months to not think he's the greatest character they have on either shows right now. He still blows as a wrestler, but we've been used to this by pretty much every other WWE champion for decades.

In Iraq: "I know you guys want to chant my name, but the enemy could hear us, so just whisper it. j... b... l... j... b... l... shh, not too loud!"

i watch smackdown pretty much every week, and i hated JBL until that smackdown in iraq...

 

[Raw64life]

Like you said, JBL is a great character, but a terrible wrestler. You can place the blame on everyone for the ratings going down, but he certainly isn't doing jack to bring the ratings up, atleast when he's wrestling anyways. He's doing absolutely nothing in the ring that makes me want to keep the TV on. My friends who watched WWE all the time from the 1998-2002 boom period ask me from time to time what's been going on in the WWE lately, and they crack up when I tell them that Bradshaw is the WWE Champion and has been for 7 months now. The huge mainstream audiance that WWE lost from 2002-2004 doesn't want to turn on the TV and see one of the Acolytes in a cowboy hat wrestling terrible matches at a main event level, or hear him talk about how the Basham Brothers are the greatest tag team of all time.

 

[Brian Fellows]

They also didnt seem to care about Eddie or Benoit as champs either. So it has little to do with his in-ring work. Cena is about Smackdown's best chance for a drawing champ(well except for Angle maybe) and sadly he makes JBL look like Bret hart.

 

[RaymondCarver]

I'm sure making something as horrible ( i.e. your word "gay" ) as you say WWE is equates to working in a "My Little Pony" factory. Fabricating the My Little Pony American dolls, toys, label items is just as horrible as making bad, low-brow entertainment.

but, you know what?

Spoiler

It pays the bills.

 

[Rocket Punch]

Hollywood
Homosexual Member

:lol Proper.

 

[Shinobi]

I don't even think he's even gotten one off before. The guy is always there to throw him off before he jumps. Jesus, what move would he do anyway if that time came? A Shooting Star press? :lol

:lol WWE should have a match where he finally makes it to the top of the turnbuckle before the guy gets up, and then have Flair look confused as if he doesn't know what to do next.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[The Faceless Master]

flair actually did hit a move from the top turnbuckle back in 2003

 

[mightynine]

flair actually did hit a move from the top turnbuckle back in 2003

I was about to say, didn't he hit a top rope move against that match vs. Triple H in 2003?

 

[Dram]

So has the WWE gotten better or worse with death of WCW? And is Vince and his family still the focus of all the story lines? I stopped watching it after Vince butchered the WCW invasion storyline, after he bought it.

 

[Outcast2004]

Due to the numerous recommendations, I will be getting some ROH stuff tonight. Keyser, I'll trust your judgement on this one as your taste in matches is pretty close to mine. i'll PM you my opinions..... Too bad that WWE is gonnna sign Samoa Joe though. I've heard he's great in the ring.

I love a weel thought out technical match with just right amount of high risk spots thrown in, WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.

On the topic of Smackdown, having JBL in my opinion has been the downfall of that show with it's B-list roster. While JBL is a great character (which any long time fan has seen before, DiBiasie should be PISSED. He never got the title he deserved), but he lacks the credibility where it counts. IN THE RING. You can't have a piss poor talent between the ropes and actually expect anyone to take the guy seriously. No one wants to pay to see this guy lose, the air of indifference has set in on Smackdown and the champ prospects aren't looking very good either.

Let's look at the title scene there shall we?
Big Show - Could be a dominating monster, bt they have no idea how to book this.
Eddie G.- Had the belt once, flourished and then had the rug pulled from underneath him before he could find his niche. Fuck you Vince.
Cena - Ugh.... this hack actually has gotten WORSE in the ring since his debut, if it's possible.
Angle - He'd be the best person to put it on at this point, but he's not even close to his former self. Even at 1/2 speed he's twice the wrestler of anyone else on that shitty roster

Overall the situation is not good. I (along with others in my circle of friends and co-workers) view Smackdown as the B-list show. That is sad, considering that show has the title with all the history. I wonder what Burno Sammartino would think if he watched what they've done to his title, or Billy Graham or Backlund or any other great champ.

PS: The six sided ring is GREAT. Makes for a faster paced match with the right talent in there. You just need to give it a chance, the six sided rings have worked in Mexico for decades.

EDIT: Someone actually has just stood there while Flair climbed to the top. Chris Benoit watched him go up and just kind of stared at him and started to laugh after he cocked his head sideways. Flair got up there and looked like a cat stuck up a tree. It was funny stuff.

According to Bret Hart (and a few others with a distaste for Flair), he does this when he loses his place in the match.

 

[Minotauro]

Sweet I just aquired one of Low-Ki's(that guy in my avatar) matches in the WWE. He takes on the mighty Essa Rios in a match on WWF Metal. If its the one I've seen part of before he gets in some decent offense. Low Ki is a god among men....he's just a little too stiff for the WWF.

I just saw my first Low-Ki match last week actually. It was the match he had with Jay Lethal at the Midnight Express Reunion show. You're right about him being stiff. Man, some of those chops were just brutal. I thought he was going to break Lethal's sternum!

It was a pretty fun match too. I really dug Ki's actions toward Lethal's mom and just his general dickishness.

 

[Nameless]

Actually, I say end the "brand extention" and remerge the rosters into one. I've been watching wrestling regularly since before grade school and honestly this is the first time where I really don't care if I catch it or not. The whole roster split was a decent concept, and it has had it's moments, but for the sake of coherent storylines and consistently good matches they need to go ahead and stop this shit now.

There just have been far too many undeveloped and abrupt heel/face turns, not to mention wasted pushes as the limited amount of wrestlers on each rosters cause a guy to go from beating to everyone over the course of a couple months, to becoming a veritable jobber over the next few months. The WWE will spend months building up a storyline, and then have to kill it or do something that totally contraditcs it simply because theres not enough superstars to properly start another one.

But most importantly it would undoubtedly equate to good programming. As it stands on each show, you may have something entertaining or a good match when either the show opens, or at the top of each hour; Inbetween that its usually a bunch of filler like boring diva segments, stupid little novelt ideas, quick non polished matches.

Hopefully after WM the wwe will come to their senses.

 

[Shinobi]

I was about to say, didn't he hit a top rope move against that match vs. Triple H in 2003?

:lol The one time he pulls the move off was against HHH? That figures...

So has the WWE gotten better or worse with death of WCW? And is Vince and his family still the focus of all the story lines? I stopped watching it after Vince butchered the WCW invasion storyline, after he bought it.

Infinitely worse.

EDIT: Someone actually has just stood there while Flair climbed to the top. Chris Benoit watched him go up and just kind of stared at him and started to laugh after he cocked his head sideways. Flair got up there and looked like a cat stuck up a tree. It was funny stuff.

According to Bret Hart (and a few others with a distaste for Flair), he does this when he loses his place in the match.

:lol If that happened, that's pretty pathetic. No one with that amount of ring experience should look clueless in a match at any point, unless they've got a mental problem (which might be the case with the way he behaves sometimes).

 

[jobber]

JBL vs. Show in a barbwire cage match will be a 5 star match. JBL is running Smackdown!

 

[bishoptl]

Sounds like some jealous punks don't have the NERVE to kneedrop a beer can in the middle of the ring!

*rips off jacket, bounces off the ropes like a crazy man*

 

[Guzim]

:lol :lol :lol

Best segment on Smackdown all year.

 

[Shinobi]

Sounds like some jealous punks don't have the NERVE to kneedrop a beer can in the middle of the ring!

*rips off jacket, bounces off the ropes like a crazy man*

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Hollywood]

Out of all the possible people to put in a barbed wire match ... JBL vs. Big Show? Man that's going to be ugly.

Imagine two years ago someone announcing that main event. Big Show was in OVW losing weight and Bradshaw was jobbing on WWE Metal/Velocity.

Bradshaw vs. Big Show, WWE Title main event! Oh man .. that just sounds so wrong. I can't see anyone by any stretch of the imagination getting hyped for that. It just sounds like it should be illegal.

 

[Brian Fellows]

Due to the numerous recommendations, I will be getting some ROH stuff tonight. Keyser, I'll trust your judgement on this one as your taste in matches is pretty close to mine. i'll PM you my opinions..... Too bad that WWE is gonnna sign Samoa Joe though. I've heard he's great in the ring.

Well Testing the Limits comes highly recommended. The two out of three falls match with Austin Aries and Bryan Danielson is awesome. But if you are lookin for some Joe it wouldn't do you much good cuz Trent Acid broke his ankle during the match so its just highlights.