MrCunningham
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I just meant that I wasn't using a spoiler tag for the video.
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X-Files Reboot
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I just meant that I wasn't using a spoiler tag for the video.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Cyberpunkd
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This will 100% have Scully being a girlboss that needs no man and Muller a sulking and pathetic male.
sCHOCOLATE
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Dreamland 2 (Season 6, Episode 5)
[Morris Fletcher (body-swapped with Mulder) in Mulder's apartment]
Morris goes over to a closed door.
He tries to open it. Nothing happens.
He tries again. Nothing.
He pulls really hard.
The door pops open and several boxes and porno magazines fall out. The room is completely filled waist high with boxes, old furniture and papers.
Morris: "This guy hasn't been laid in ten years."
It's canon ...
Yeah, but it gave us the Zeppo episode which was fantastic.
If only Whedon was into guys, then maybe we would have gotten a better Xander instead of all the female characters he was trying to fuck
I hope they get some of the cast of Buffy type shows, like the guy from Grimm, as cameos just to pay homage to the legacy of the show.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Yeah, but it gave us the Zeppo episode which was fantastic.
If only Whedon was into guys, then maybe we would have gotten a better Xander instead of all the female characters he was trying to fuck
I hope they get some of the cast of Buffy type shows, like the guy from Grimm, as cameos just to pay homage to the legacy of the show.
What do you mean? I loved Grimm and I found it funny how the MC upgraded when it came to the romantic interest by the end of show lol
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touchfuzzy
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More like Malcom X-Files, am I right?
I'm just saying that for the Buffy relaunch they could have some cameos from folks in shows that were pretty clearly patterend after Buffy.
And the Grimm thing is funny because the two leads were dating through the show, so him having a new Girl Friday had to be a bit awkward
Audiophile
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We don't know how to do atmosphere anymore, therefore you can't make the X-Files.
MrCunningham
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I was a huge fan of the early X-Files, because a lot of it was filmed around my neck of the woods, so to speak. So I could recognise when they filmed in a neighbouring BC town and such.
The railroad car with the aliens trapped inside was filmed in an Area around Kamloops BC that I use to drive by once a year. There was a farm house that was used in the show, that is near my aunt and uncles old place. I am trying to remember what episode that was from... the one with the inbred family?
I was impressed when I found out that most of the show was filmed in 35mm film stock, and Fox was able to re-scan everything in 16/9 with no horrible cropping at higher resolutions. Though, some of the pick-up shots were filmed in news cast quality cameras for the early seasons.
Season 10 and 11 did go back to Vancouver and Area and it was a nice change of pace in atmosphere from the California seasons. I didn't mind the look of the California seasons.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Trilobit
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I've been rewatching season 1. It's much better than I remembered it. I love the sparse practical effects which are surprisingly good. The plentiful night scenes are great for the vibes and must have been a pain to film. Which brings me to the atmosphere. It's superb! The calm demeanor from the MCs, great cinematography and chill 90's tempo all mix together to a great package.
I still think later seasons completely dropped the ball by constantly blueballing the audience. The story never left the tarmac. With a better showrunner this show could have gotten better and better with every season. If they'd let HBO with its mostly amazing writers have a go at a shorter season then it'd probably be very eerie and satisfying.
I still think later seasons completely dropped the ball by constantly blueballing the audience. The story never left the tarmac. With a better showrunner this show could have gotten better and better with every season. If they'd let HBO with its mostly amazing writers have a go at a shorter season then it'd probably be very eerie and satisfying.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
It's one of those shows that aged really well in the visual department
I was complaining about the main plot and how it was never resolved. I think that Chris Carter had a hard time wrapping up the main storyline and just choose to blueball the audience, it's one of the reasons why The X-File viewership started to drop after Season 5
MrCunningham
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I think the real problem with trying to 'wrap up' the X-Files alien story arc is that there's no one true satisfactory conclusion that will please the audiences other than vague premonitions. Once they started to step over real world conspiracies the show slowly fell into fantasy/ fiction. The two subsequent seasons of 10 and 11 really ignored a lot of what season 9 set up on purpose, and ran with whatever the current real world UFO narrative was at the time.
I agree that the show, especially the early seasons aged incredibly well visually. the show still looks amazing and the tone and vibes still hold up incredibly well. I love the original X-Files series. But conceiving a 'third act' is an impossible task.
Even if Aliens/ UFO were fully disclosed (we are inching closer to that reality), There will always be whistle blowers and splinter groups that come out of the wood works to contradict whatever the current narrative is. If the show runners stick to close to the current official ABC agency narratives, it really loses credibility with fans of the show. Mulder is always suppose to be a counter balance to the official narrative.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
True, I was surprised that when a Season 10 was announced that they didn't continue with the main story
Even at the time it was airing, there were a lot of people who considered each episode like a movie back in the day
As for a third act, I think it's doable
I always felt the endgame of The X-Files main storyline would be a full scale alien invasion
But nowadays I'm of the opinion of just leaving it alone
MrCunningham
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The original series was building up to the prevention of an alien invasion by creating some half-human hybrid that would unify the impeding alien race that wants to take over the earth. I would have to re-watch the entire series at some point. Because there were a lot of story threads that I am not really sure went anywhere. Like the bee harvesting from the Fight the Future movie. The X-Files didn't really have many story episodes, with most being used to book-end each season and a few that fall in between. Somethings monster of the week episodes do overlap with the story arc episodes. Chris Carter was at least careful with how much of that story thread they would expose per season,. It was always used for the advertising fodder.
I'm not saying that a final act is unachievable. I think it is really hard to pull off.
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given how fucked up bizarre the past 20+ years have been, I'm not sure we HAVEN'T been taken over. Maybe the X-files can be about rooting out shapeshifters amongst us...
MrCunningham
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I can agree with that statement. Whose to say that it didn't already happen back in the 1950's?
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Which is a shame since I really loved both the main storyline episodes and monster of the week episodes.
I agree, if they are gonna to bring the show back, I would rather they bring back the original cast and just look to complete the storyline but I know that's never gonna to happen and as you said it would really hard to pull off
given how fucked up bizarre the past 20+ years have been, I'm not sure we HAVEN'T been taken over. Maybe the X-files can be about rooting out shapeshifters amongst us...
I always loved the concept of their super soldiers, especially with the way the look and what distinguishs them from other humans like their spinal column poking from the back
As for Ryan Coogler, I like his movies but I just think he's a good director and nothing special. I'm not happy that he's bringing back The X-Files and it's looking to suck since the annoucement of one of the two mains have been annouced. Yeah no thanks
I do have to rewatch The X-Files since it's been so long that I forgot stuff about the main plot
Back in the day I started to fully watch it when the fifth season aired. After a couple of years when the show was done, I went back and watched through the whole series. I love all the seasons but I get why the later seasons after Season 5 weren't well liked
There were two X-Files movies too. I wish that Fight The Future was much more impactful to the series. As MrCunningham said that whole Bee plot from Fight The Future didn't amount to anything
But my exact thoughts on the new show coming, I'm really not happy about it, it's looking like a skip for me
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DetectiveBananas
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Outside of "Monster of the Week" episodes, where could the writers possibly take us without pissing off the fanbase or be censored for shining a light on things the people in charge don't want to address? Back to Alien Invasion probably won't cut it anymore.
Unknown Soldier
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Like all classic old content "reimagined" for modern audiences, it's not for anybody. Classic fans didn't want this. Modem audiences don't exist, they are as fictional as the space aliens in the show. So no one will watch it and it will be cancelled after a season and Hollywood financial crisis will continue. No lessons will ever be learned, on to the next classic content to remake and ruin!
If they wouldn't yell at us, call us names, and blame us for the show failing then just ignoring it would suffice. But since they attack and blame US for not watching their show "not made for you, old cishet white man", then they earn the active distain.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Yeah, I took some screenshots. I don't know if the episodes I watched were cropped from 4:3 which makes them naturally more cinematic, but I think the lighting and cinematography shows how movielike it could be.
TerribleAtThisGame
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As a big X-Files fan, that show thrived on their chemistry, the cinematography, lighting and above all else, imo, the score. It's a mood-first show. Much like Twin Peaks, take the score out and yea. I was never a fan of even the X-Files movie because the mood is drastically altered by the Hollywood score. Maybe that's just me but again, much like Twin Peaks, this show is a very specific cocktail and absolutely lives on that lightning-in-a-bottle combo's atmosphere.
It's just more artistically bankrupt "content" for the streaming machine. They have no idea at all what to do anymore. Sinners was also tonally and atmospherically messy and comically overrated in my opinion and I'm someone who thought the actual idea, setting and plot behind is was cool and could've been a killer movie.
It's just more artistically bankrupt "content" for the streaming machine. They have no idea at all what to do anymore. Sinners was also tonally and atmospherically messy and comically overrated in my opinion and I'm someone who thought the actual idea, setting and plot behind is was cool and could've been a killer movie.
I have a good theory about this. The ginger is often the support character, especially in comics as the red hair makes them readily distinguished from the other main characters. I bet redheads are WAY over-represented in comics compared to blondes and brunettes, even amongst white populations. So in the "global diversification" movement, the mains are often untouchable as they are highly recognizable and the draw (and they are VERY rarely gingers), but the side characters, the love interests, the redheads, those are the ones vulnerable to being "othercasted" as they are not perceived to be as critical to the draw of the IP and there are just so many redheads in comics to choose from compared to "real life" that it stands out.
We don't actually know, I don't think, that Deadwylier is gonna be the Scully character, or the Scully TYPE character if they aren't reusing those names. But for the sake of good drama I think they will keep the "cynical believer" and the "skeptic with faith" archtypes so may as well call them Mulder and Scully. Will Fox greenlight a conspiracy cop show with NO white male lead? Seems unlikely, but you can counter balance a white male with a black woman easily enough these days.
TerribleAtThisGame
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The show was drenched in shadows and an overall neo-noir look close to Mann films. They don't even get ANYWHERE near shit like that mood now with GigaUltra800k Digital.Yeah, I took some screenshots. I don't know if the episodes I watched were cropped from 4:3 which makes them naturally more cinematic, but I think the lighting and cinematography shows how movielike it could be.
spookyfish
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That's why I won't get rid of my DVDs. The early seasons are in 4:3 (Season 5, I think, was the start of 16:9) and I want to keep those so I can watch the original aspect ratios. The blu-ray sets did not preserve that option.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Yeah, it's how the old shows are supposed to be watched. I refuse to watch Twin Peaks or Gilmore Girls in anything else. They were made with that aspect ratio in mind. I suppose I'll have to try and find the correct format for the rest of the seasons I'm rewatching.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Yeah, I took some screenshots. I don't know if the episodes I watched were cropped from 4:3 which makes them naturally more cinematic, but I think the lighting and cinematography shows how movielike it could be.
I remember when that show was airing in the 90s, people made a big deal with how movie like the show felt at times
I was reading interviews dealing with the production of the show and how difficult it was to make each episode feel like a movie especially when effects were involved. They would usually have a least two to three weeks to make the effects look good enough which were practical. Just the way they shot this show for it's time is just a technical marvel
It was really amazing to read about back than
MrCunningham
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I can totally understand the need to want to keep the 3:4 aspect ratio. I feel the same way about a lot of animation, where going to a 16:9 crop ruins layouts and framing. In X-Files case, the show was filmed in 35mm since the pilot episode and even behind the scenes documentaries show that it was things were framed for more than just 4:3. They did anticipate for wide screen re-cropping from the original film negatives.
There are only a few instances in the early seasons where they actually had to do pick-up shots or re-shoots that were filmed in 4:3. There are some instances in the HD 16:9 remasters where they ad to trim a 4:3 shot to a 16:9 aspect ratio. Also there are some special effect shots in the early seasons where they had to re-crop the 4:3 images because they were only available in 480i.
Filming in 35mm was not uncommon back in the day for some of the higher budgeted TV shows. Even Pee-Wee's Playhouse was filmed in 35mm, which was pretty crazy for a 1980's kids show. In many cases mother other 35mm show TV series didn;t take into account what was going on in the frame outside of the 4:3 'zone'. So you end up with weird shots where you can see crew or equipment. But early seasons of the X-Files actually did take this into account.
For people who want to preserve the way the show was seen on TV originally, yeah the DVD 4:3's are still the best way to go.
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spookyfish
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I hear you, but I pretty much will bet 20th Century Fox just cropped, and didn't expand. The 16x9 "wrong" episodes, in my memory, lose information, and don't gain any. Now, that's according to my memory—which could totally be wrong.
MrCunningham
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In the majority of cases. There is more on screen horizontally with the 16:9 transfers. Though they do lose a little bit of vertical visual data from the 4:3 originals. So there is a minor trade-off overall. 35MM honestly upscales to 4K really well , as it holds a lot of detail. These aren't just lazy 16:9 crops from a 4:3 image. But again. there are a few instances where they do use stock footage of Washington DC, or there are a few early special effect shots that were rendered in 480i, or a few pick-up shots or reshoots where the crew didn't have access to the 35mm cameras where things had to be cropped and upscaled for the 16:9 transfers. They do stick out like a sore thumb.
The producers really did take wide screen aspect ratios onto consideration all the way back when they filmed the original pilot.
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newtypepilot
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spookyfish
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Almost all of those you picked are cropped. But, okay. I prefer it as it was actually presented. That's the beauty of it -- both ways are available. You do you.In the majority of cases. There is more on screen horizontally with the 16:9 transfers. Though they do lose a little bit of vertical visual data from the 4:3 originals. So there is a minor trade-off overall. 35MM honestly upscales to 4K really well , as it holds a lot of detail. These aren't just lazy 16:9 crops from a 4:3 image. But again. there are a few instances where they do use stock footage of Washington DC, or there are a few early special effect shots that were rendered in 480i, or a few pick-up shots or reshoots where the crew didn't have access to the 35mm cameras where things had to be cropped and upscaled for the 16:9 transfers. They do stick out like a sore thumb.
The producers really did take wide screen aspect ratios onto consideration all the way back when they filmed the original pilot.
‘The X-Files’ Reboot Casts Danielle Deadwyler to Star, Ryan Coogler to Direct
Hulu has officially greenlit a pilot to revive the classic UFO series, with the 'Sinners' filmmaker writing and directing.www.hollywoodreporter.com
This is gonna to be dead on arrival
As a life long X-Files fan, I hope this bombs hard
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
"There's a mysterious chirping sound in the hallway, Mulder. What could it be?"‘The X-Files’ Reboot Casts Danielle Deadwyler to Star, Ryan Coogler to Direct
Hulu has officially greenlit a pilot to revive the classic UFO series, with the 'Sinners' filmmaker writing and directing.
This is gonna to be dead on arrival
As a life long X-Files fan, I hope this bombs hard
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Ryan Coogler's 'X-Files' Reboot Taps Himesh Patel To Star
Himesh Patel is set to co-star opposite Danielle Deadwyler in 'X-Files' reboot from producer Ryan Coogler.
deadline.com
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