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X360 Future Proofed According to Mr. Gates
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hukasmokincaterpillar
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At first I thought he posted...
I had a Timecop 3 joke lined up and everything.
Blaster1X said:
I had a Timecop 3 joke lined up and everything.
BlueTsunami
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mmakiik
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OK.....now I *KNOW* this thread is going places :lol
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Error2k4 said:
:lol that picture just keeps on givin the laughs
BlueTsunami
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Blaster1X said:
Is that a rhetorical question...
BlueTsunami
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Striek said:
I don't know, weirder things may happen...right Blaster1X?
From Wired w/ Bill Gates:
But in this thread's article, he says the X360 is future-proof? Given how fast technology moves forward, that's a bold statement. Maybe this quote will be floating around 25 years from now and he'll deny it like the 640K comment.
Patrick Klepek
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How could there POSSIBLY be a HD-DVD drive in there? Wouldn't people have discovered it after opening their Xbox 360s? You people are ridiculous.
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eXxy said:
You sir, have not proven ANYTHING
Servizio
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I'm thinking "future proof" means either it or the future will explode on contact with one another.
Also, as for the HD-DVD thing...They kept saying "There might be a scenario in which we want the HDD slot for something else." I figured it'd be for a HD-DVD player or something. Doesn't seem likely at all, but...
Also, as for the HD-DVD thing...They kept saying "There might be a scenario in which we want the HDD slot for something else." I figured it'd be for a HD-DVD player or something. Doesn't seem likely at all, but...
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Striek said:
Oh shi..thats what I was thinking? Chameleon style
MightyHedgehog
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Patrick Klepek
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Striek said:
:lol :lol
In the near-distant future Microsoft will release it's long-awaited Mr. Fusion(patent-pending) plugin for the Xbox 360. The Mr. Fusion plugin will sync with the central processing matrix of the variable-entropy logical operations command interface type-Y (general input resistance limiter) thus causing the rainbow effect resulting in cosmic adhesive zarconial disinterperetation in order to alter the trans-dimensional cognizance gate, to cause an artificial R-Mode shift, thus inducing general myopathy in the human population due to decreased hypothalamic activity, resulting in a .01% increase in the purchase of skate parks and custom grillz over Xbox live.
I am an industry insider, beleive me, it will come to pass.
I am an industry insider, beleive me, it will come to pass.
I am not an industry insider, don't beleive a word I say, none of this will happpen.
choplifter
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Xbox 360 itself is not very future proof
1.) no Blu-Ray or even HD-DVD
2.) you cannot upgrade the CPU, GPU and probably not even the RAM
3.) narrow 128-bit bus
4.) no HDMI support
5.) no practical, feasible support for 1080p
but Xbox 360 software is future proof because 360's successor will be 100% fully backwards compatible
1.) no Blu-Ray or even HD-DVD
2.) you cannot upgrade the CPU, GPU and probably not even the RAM
3.) narrow 128-bit bus
4.) no HDMI support
5.) no practical, feasible support for 1080p
but Xbox 360 software is future proof because 360's successor will be 100% fully backwards compatible
Maybe Bill G. already has a plan in the works to turn XBL into a distribution system for full-sized games a la Steam. Then the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray wars become irrelevant, and the only thing consumers need to worry about is (possibly) buying a bigger MS-branded HD for their game downloads.
(I know this has pretty much become a joke topic already, but hey, I thought it deserved a little semi-serious speculation.)
(I know this has pretty much become a joke topic already, but hey, I thought it deserved a little semi-serious speculation.)
Spazbiohaz
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choplifter said:
At this time true, but I for one never minded multipule discs. I want this to be confirmed. I call out Gamespot to rumor mail this question to microsoft, and no rumor has it shit just straight ask "Does the 360 have anyway to play HD-DVD, by upgrading the XDK?"
choplifter said:
The system is powerful, and until Sony has proven that games will look better we all have to wait. Also, you can bet 100% that Xbox360 ports will pleague PS3 launch and future. All major 3rd parties will put this in action.
choplifter said:
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choplifter said:
This will come I am sure. The fact that you use a switch to out put AV or Componet is one factor and the VGA adaptor is another.
choplifter said:
This is true, but how much better is it and it cost 1,000 more a TV set to have. In five years when people use it and have the TV for it accross the nation, then we can see if it even matters.
The danger of future-proofing something is putting all that extra stuff in the hardware that may not be used in the future, adding in unnecessary costs during the initial hardware production runs.
Examples:
"Secret" expansion slot on bottom of NES
Expansion slot on bottom of SNES
Expansion slot on bottom of N64
i.LINK/Firewire ports on front of PS2 (gone from 50001+ models)
Hard drive expansion bay for PS2 (FFXI, lol)
TV Encoding hardware in original Xbox (Little-known factoid)
Serial Port 2 on bottom of GameCube (Newer models do not have this connector anymore)
While it's true these instances are pretty much trivial, the stuff that Sony was saying they'd put in the PS3 certainly is not:
Support for dual 1080p displays w/ 2× HDMI outputs
Gigabit ethernet switch with multiple outputs
Hard drive expansion bay (lol)
George Foreman Grill adaptor
That's a lot of extra money and resourses that may ultimately be wasted for a long time. Honestly, are enough people going to use the dual HDMI outputs to make it financially worth it for Sony in the long run?
Microsoft got it right with the regular DVD drive if you ask me. Dual layer, 9 gigs, that's fine for 99% of games. Everything else about the console is good to go for some time too.
Examples:
"Secret" expansion slot on bottom of NES
Expansion slot on bottom of SNES
Expansion slot on bottom of N64
i.LINK/Firewire ports on front of PS2 (gone from 50001+ models)
Hard drive expansion bay for PS2 (FFXI, lol)
TV Encoding hardware in original Xbox (Little-known factoid)
Serial Port 2 on bottom of GameCube (Newer models do not have this connector anymore)
While it's true these instances are pretty much trivial, the stuff that Sony was saying they'd put in the PS3 certainly is not:
Support for dual 1080p displays w/ 2× HDMI outputs
Gigabit ethernet switch with multiple outputs
Hard drive expansion bay (lol)
George Foreman Grill adaptor
That's a lot of extra money and resourses that may ultimately be wasted for a long time. Honestly, are enough people going to use the dual HDMI outputs to make it financially worth it for Sony in the long run?
Microsoft got it right with the regular DVD drive if you ask me. Dual layer, 9 gigs, that's fine for 99% of games. Everything else about the console is good to go for some time too.
Letter to Elise
Banned
"The X360 is future proofed"
Simply that he feels the specs/features/services will be just fine until 4-5 years down the line when the next gen starts?
This doesn't seem to be any secret port talk to me.
~l2e
Simply that he feels the specs/features/services will be just fine until 4-5 years down the line when the next gen starts?
This doesn't seem to be any secret port talk to me.
~l2e
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sirris said:
Net connections will improve over the next two/three years, much like we've seen them improve over the last two/three years. They improve slightly or drasstically. I'm all for digital delivery, as it takes the greedy retailer out of the food chain and the developer gets the cizash. I hope none of this is hyperbolic bullshit.
WindyMan said:
My high school math teacher said humans are gasses. We expand to fill our spaces, be it a desk, closet, floorspace, or hard drive.
Because of the size of BD-Roms, PS3 games will have HUGE amounts of content, due to the relaxed nature of not needing to worry about space.
360 games will suffer because of the VAST difference in size. Do you know how much a BD-Rom can hold?
WindyMan said:
I think this is pretty much just wrong. Remember, a Xbox 360 DVD9 can only use 7.4GB, and another 2gigs is reserved for other reasons.
Many of the LAUNCH games alone use 7GBs already. And most are not even that big or fully featured. Even with compression improvements over the long term, this is gonna be a huge issue. Many developers have already commented about this being a problem.
I can't imagine how this won't be a problem. I mean, it's not like switching discs is the end of the world... but I definitely think DVD9 is not enough. Not even close for what next-gen is gonna require in a year or two.
Letter to Elise
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Amir0x said:
Totally agree with all of this. I know it was a cost cutting move, and that they didn't want to go with a Sony backed tech, but there is nothing positive to be said of staying with DVD-Roms.
~l2e
