Xbox 2 coming in 2005!!
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Waiting till 2006 just seems too long.
CrimsonSkies
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Impressive launch title(s) for a console? WTF?
Has there been any official announcement about the Xbox2? Certainly not recently, what with Xbox sales going gangbusters with the release of Halo 2.
They're apparently working on it, but nothing's been confirmed yet. With the switch from nVidia to ATI, there'll obviously be some problems.Willco said:
god fucking damnit.
I want Xbox 2 in 2006 with more power, enough to rival PS3 and Revolution....
...ahh well, they'll all be close enough anyway. nothing like the disparity between DC and PS2/GCN/Xbox.
but it really is too bad if true. Xbox 2 in 2005 means developers will be rushing like crazy to get games ready.
I want Xbox 2 in 2006 with more power, enough to rival PS3 and Revolution....
...ahh well, they'll all be close enough anyway. nothing like the disparity between DC and PS2/GCN/Xbox.
but it really is too bad if true. Xbox 2 in 2005 means developers will be rushing like crazy to get games ready.
Mr_Furious
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I've been very skeptical for quite some time about a pontential 2k5 launch of the Xbox successor (whatever it'll be called) but more and more things are coming to light that leads me to believe there's a very high probability it will happen.
edit: I'm not sure how I feel about MS shortening the lifespan of their console to beat Nintendo and Sony to the punch and I'm not sure the market will be ready by then but we'll see.
edit: I'm not sure how I feel about MS shortening the lifespan of their console to beat Nintendo and Sony to the punch and I'm not sure the market will be ready by then but we'll see.
I've been thinking about backwards compatibility and honestly there are very few games for the regular xbox you'd really want to play on a new one with new games out. Basically Halo/ Halo 2 and perhaps KOTOR, a simple remedy to the halo thing is a Halo deluxe game with halo 1 and 2 with suped up graphics and live play in one package has a pack in game.
Pachinko said:
I can think of quite a few games I'd like to play on Xbox 2 that probably won't be available with sequels right away.
Topspin
DOA Ultimate
Halo 2
Conker
Forza
Considering most consoles launch with a drought of great titles the backwards compatability is a nice feature for the first year of a consoles life. Hopefully XB2 launches with a strong lineup so I won't need backwards compatability, but who knows?
Pachinko said:
That's not the point of backwards capability in some aspects. People who buy Xbox 2 want to play Xbox games if they didnt own it. If I didnt own an Xbox, and there was a release game for Xbox 2 I wanted, and I really wanted to play Fable, or Halo 2, or KotOR I would know I could have it on one machine.
Mr_Furious
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Japanese supportSociety said:
I am counting on a massive war between Xenon and PS3. one that will hopefully benefit us gamers a great deal. it's gonna be a bigger fight than Genesis vs SNES. with two massively powerful companies competing fiercly.. the guy who said if Microsoft can't put Sony away, no one will, is right on.
CrimsonSkies
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I'm still not going to believe the Xbox 2 will be the weakest console next gen until I see it. I think all these companies will have powerful hardware, and each will offer a few tricks the others don't have.
it doesnt matter that much, even with xbox being the most powerful, most xbox games look crappy due to terrible artstyle. if xenon can gather good japanese/korean support and get some games with kick ass art style...technical prowess wont matter much. if it doesnt however...then there are always the hit fps titles i guess :/
ToyMachine228
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It's on IGNCube. Their N-Query.
Rocket Punch
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You know Sony is gonna jump all over this one with an announcement close to Xenon's release date. And I wonder if this time it's gonna go down the same way that it did with Dreamcast. How many people will wait for PS3 once the big announcement is made... That PS3 will be the end all be all system as they clamoured PS2 would be at the time. And what are people gonna do? Are people gonna sit and wait? Or are they gonna go out and pay a pretty penny for MS's new machine?
Die Squirrel Die
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See I'm very conspiratorial on this whole 2005 launch thing. Huzkee already pointed out the biggest danger in it. I can't help but wonder if this is a position more motivated by the investors, and those within MS more detatched from the XBox project. It's probably easier to sell these people on throwing more investment at the division if you present an early launch as a magic solution. There probably less enthusiastic about saying 'we've lost this much money to get to this point and we'll either have to lose a hell of a lot more to get further entrenched and maybe one day overthrow Sony's lead or just hope that Sony make some castastrophic mistake(s) that they can't recover from without making any of our own'.
Operations
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huzkee said:
The market is big enough for two industry players. MS will have momentum thanks to their strong online strategy and probably some big name franchises (Perfect Dark Zero, Crimson Skies 2, best looking Madden); the launch will not be a problem, even the Dreamcast pulled some respectable numbers. Sony will have about 1 year to add/rethink their console and try to put it as a superior alternative to Xenon, besides having the advantage of being the leader of the current generation. By that time, MS will most likely have a strong second batch of popular games in order to agressively compete. I would expect the marketshare divided between the two without major problems.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
i'd hazard it's like this ....
Sony push the PSP for the next year or two, they announce a big PSP game around the same time as XB2 launch - probably a big PS2 game, and after that start leaking some pictures of what the PS3 can do...
XB2 launches with a fairly decent array of titles. Sony hype picks up - screen shots of GT5 (2014 release, but still, best to get em out early!
) - no perceivable difference between PS3 and Xb2. Naughty Dog, Bungie etc all line up along side their chosen whore master and talk trash about the other system whilst proclaiming their system the next coming of christ, whilst internet boards a full of people looking for tidbits and crumbs to help extend their agenda vs. the platform they don't like.
Sony gets close to launch and has some great new original titles - they've planned their launch well.
But at the same time, Halo 3 is announced. Oh look at that! It's launching the same week as the PS3....
Sony announces GTA4 exclusive in retaliation....
etc etc... same story, different time frame, a bigger chunk for MS, Sony to come out on top in terms of market share but badly burnt on the profits front.
*my crystal balls have cracks in them! might not be true!
Sony push the PSP for the next year or two, they announce a big PSP game around the same time as XB2 launch - probably a big PS2 game, and after that start leaking some pictures of what the PS3 can do...
XB2 launches with a fairly decent array of titles. Sony hype picks up - screen shots of GT5 (2014 release, but still, best to get em out early!
) - no perceivable difference between PS3 and Xb2. Naughty Dog, Bungie etc all line up along side their chosen whore master and talk trash about the other system whilst proclaiming their system the next coming of christ, whilst internet boards a full of people looking for tidbits and crumbs to help extend their agenda vs. the platform they don't like.Sony gets close to launch and has some great new original titles - they've planned their launch well.
But at the same time, Halo 3 is announced. Oh look at that! It's launching the same week as the PS3....
Sony announces GTA4 exclusive in retaliation....
etc etc... same story, different time frame, a bigger chunk for MS, Sony to come out on top in terms of market share but badly burnt on the profits front.
*my crystal balls have cracks in them! might not be true!
I think it's clear now that the casuals in the US are liking Xbox, and more and more are adopting the system. If Microsoft can get Bungie to launch Halo 3 with Xenon, the marketshare struggle will be much more interesting. I cannot see anyone but Sony coming out on top, though.
The Take Out Bandit
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Because Nintendo is completely senile, and all fans can look forward to from them is releasing more half baked novelties they have to defend from Drinky Crow.
DCharlie continues to pretend he's got no preference and buys more hardware he won't use just to have free license, feel entitled, to bitch about it.
Die Squirrel Die
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I don't know, I can't help but feel that what they'll gain in being first to market they'll lose in not being the best hardware. Even if they are only on equal footing that's still a step down from their position this gen. There's definitely a reason why multiplatform games are starting to perform well on Xbox compared to PS2, and I think the lack of many really breakout exclusive points away from the exclusives generating sales and then people just picking up the multiplatform games.
The Take Out Bandit
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This is true, but Nintendo fans need to learn from Sega fans and move on.
Admitting the company you love has a problem is the first step towards recovery.
Has a second or third to market console ever led even the majority of a generation? (that is, assuming the first console out there wasn't a miserable failure)
-NES released before Master System, NES dominated obviously.
-Genesis released before SNES, Genesis held most of the generation before finally dying off and allowing Nintendo to surpass it in sales.
-PSX released before N64, we know what happened there. About the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast, see above parentheses)
-And finally, PS2 released before the other 2 consoles.
Also, no company has ever held the top spot for more than 2 consecutive generations.
Therefore, the Xbox 2 is the new Genesis to Sony's SNES.
-NES released before Master System, NES dominated obviously.
-Genesis released before SNES, Genesis held most of the generation before finally dying off and allowing Nintendo to surpass it in sales.
-PSX released before N64, we know what happened there. About the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast, see above parentheses)
-And finally, PS2 released before the other 2 consoles.
Also, no company has ever held the top spot for more than 2 consecutive generations.
Therefore, the Xbox 2 is the new Genesis to Sony's SNES.
Mejilan said:
That's what I was about to edit. The problem with the Dreamcast (perception-wise) is that gamers weren't quite ready for the new generation, and many had a general reluctance to buy Sega products. It turns out that the DC was their best system, but not enough people bought it.
So in that case, Sega had more going against it that simply releasing first couldn't overcome.