gollumsluvslave
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According to GamesIndustry.Biz
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=6879
I for one hope this is true...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=6879
I for one hope this is true...
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Xbox 2 - Wireless Controllers as standard
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RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
They better be rechargeable, but with a cable the length of the current Xbox controller cable.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
RevenantKioku said:
Awesome if true but the current cable length of the Xbox controllers satisfies me.
heavy liquid
Member
Nice. I hope Sony and Nintendo do the same.
Reanimated
Banned
I don't get their headline? How the hell does this make Wavebird a trendsetter? I was buying wireless controllers for my consoles LONG before the Wavebird came along. I also fail to see how Wavebird has set a trend for a console being built for wireless controllers.
Ugh... Anyway, this is great news. I just hope the controllers can still plug in to recharge.
Ugh... Anyway, this is great news. I just hope the controllers can still plug in to recharge.
Well, let's say the PS3 had no controller ports and was wireless only.
Now, all of those Bemani controllers, Namco racing controllers, FF wheels, guns are all useless, as well as the related software.
How's Tekki gonna work on an XBox2 with no place to plug the controller in?
Now, all of those Bemani controllers, Namco racing controllers, FF wheels, guns are all useless, as well as the related software.
How's Tekki gonna work on an XBox2 with no place to plug the controller in?
gollumsluvslave
Member
As far as I'm aware, Wavebird was the first *official* wireless controller (not 3rd party), now Xbox 2 will be the first with wireless as standard... it can be speculated that the success and popularity of Wavebird prompted MS to go wireless as standard... hence trendsetting...
IMHO
Edit - Beat to it by BuddyChrist :lol
dog$ said:
You're talking about a small minority of games that might not be able to be played the best way on the XBOX 2. I don't think this news decreases the chances for backwards compatability.
I was, too, but Nintendo made wireless not only work well, but made it popular with the wavebird. I don't care how you slice it, I was the only kid in a 40 mile radius with SNES wireless controllers.
It was the first first-party wireless controller and set a new standard for quality. It was just as sturdy and stable and comfortable as the stock GC controller, just wireless and none of that cruddy IR wireless either. It wasn't revolutionary, but it was an absolutely huge step forward.Reanimated said:
Reanimated
Banned
Oh I see, we're still giving Nintendo credit for copying other people's ideas, slapping their name on it, and selling it as 1st party. :lol
crisdecuba
Member
Hmm, I think people just have a kneejerk reaction against acknowledging stuff like that.
Like if I said, "Sony is following Nintendo's lead with the N64 by incorporating analog joysticks into their controllers," then people would immediately say, "Nuh uh, there have been analog controllers way before this!" This may be true, but it misses the point that a trendsetter is not the one who does it first, but rather the one that leads to others doing the same thing (thus 'setting' the 'trend').
Like if I said, "Sony is following Nintendo's lead with the N64 by incorporating analog joysticks into their controllers," then people would immediately say, "Nuh uh, there have been analog controllers way before this!" This may be true, but it misses the point that a trendsetter is not the one who does it first, but rather the one that leads to others doing the same thing (thus 'setting' the 'trend').
Unless the docking station and the rechargable battery is at a resonable price, I say stick with batteries. They ammount of time they last in my Wavebird and Logittech Wireless for XBOX is an incredible ammount of time.
You could also go to CVS or some place and find a sale for like 10 AA for $4-6 bucks. But that is one thing Nintendo has perfected. The Wavebird is my favorite controller of this gen.
You could also go to CVS or some place and find a sale for like 10 AA for $4-6 bucks. But that is one thing Nintendo has perfected. The Wavebird is my favorite controller of this gen.
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
I'll wait until there is an offical announcement on wireless controllers before I believe it. There are just too many rumors circulating right now regarding the next gen systems and it's difficult to know which are true or not. Plus, how much extra would the wireless controllers cost? If having a six foot cord means keeping the price down some, I'm all for it, and I also think the length of the current cord is plenty for me.
Deepthroat said:
The people who use the Wavebird and complain about the lack of rumble are so few and far between. It seems that most who use it don't even notice the lack of rumble.
I played through both Metroid Prime titles and RE4 with the Wavebird and I didn't feel like I missed out on anything.
Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
So what the hell happens to XBL as we know it? Wouldn't the current set up of adding a powered expansion pack into the controller drain the batteries in a wireless pretty quickly? Not to mention adding vibration to the mix.
Reanimated
Banned
The Wavebird is only a decent wireless controller. There are Logitech controllers availble that are just as comfortable and feature rumble. Just because plenty of idiots (myself included) bought a Wavebird doesn't mean that it's the 'best wireless controller evar'.
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
According to that document posted yesturday, Xenon has straight usb2.0 slots so presumably you could use wired headsets connected to those ports, wireless headsets also, could become an option, though they are probably a little on the expensive side right now.
shpankey
not an idiot
Oh contraire! The Logitech PS2 wireless wipes the floor with it IMO. Also, Nintendo making a wireless conroller is a whole lot different than a company making a wireless controller the default controller for their console. If MSFT does this, make no mistake they will be leading and it will be of no credit whatsoever to Nintendo. Also, MSFT is not new to wireless controllers. They made them before Nintendo made the Wavebird in fact.olimario said:
shpankey said:
I haven't like a single Logitech product I've tried. That said, I haven't tried the Action Cordless yet, which seems to be their best.
And sure Nintendo would deserve some credit. Had the wavebird not come along I don't think we would have seen a push for better wireless controllers or a demand for them on next gen systems.
Reanimated
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olimario said:
You mean aside from the fact that when the Wavebird hit there were already 3 or 4 high quality controllers out from Logitech?
shpankey said:
You're right, but at what rate? I didn't see any hype towards wireless prior to the Wavebird nor did I see any demand for good Wireless prior to the Wavebird. It was all niche before Nintendo and now it's more popularized and is seen as more of a necessity.
Nintendo sparked the interest in wireless and sped up the progression of wireless controller technology.
I've tried a few across a few systems and I haven't liked the feel of them. I prefer first party controllers.
open_mouth_
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This is awesome if true. Microsoft is pushing the boundaries with improvements and innovations from this gen to next. From the sound of things, MS wants to improve every single aspect of the gaming experience. Areas Microsoft seems likely to push the envelope (and I'm not saying that Sony and Nintendo won't):
Touch:
-Controller design (wireless, more refined type-S controller) standard
Sights and Sounds:
-True HDTV support (720P, 1080I)
-Audio and Visual tech will be powerful and efficient
-Developer friendly system and early games not rushed
Online Play and Storage:
-Storage mediums will be flexible (LAN storage, Flash storage, Online storage, etc.)
-More Live online features and community building (MMORPG's and other Massively Multiplayer games will be more accessible to the mainstream)
-Built-in Ethernet and I wouldn't be surprised if it had built-in wireless-G as well.
Touch:
-Controller design (wireless, more refined type-S controller) standard
Sights and Sounds:
-True HDTV support (720P, 1080I)
-Audio and Visual tech will be powerful and efficient
-Developer friendly system and early games not rushed
Online Play and Storage:
-Storage mediums will be flexible (LAN storage, Flash storage, Online storage, etc.)
-More Live online features and community building (MMORPG's and other Massively Multiplayer games will be more accessible to the mainstream)
-Built-in Ethernet and I wouldn't be surprised if it had built-in wireless-G as well.
shpankey
not an idiot
Well, that may or may not be... I wouldn't know for sure. But I tend to think that it would have been one of the standard new fancy features of this generation regardless.olimario said:
And Logitech is amazing; the aforementioned PS2 wireless controller is just godly. Give it a try sometime if you haven't already. I actually use it on my PC, my Xbox and my PS2 (the PC and Xbox by using PS2 to PC and PS2 to Xbox controller adapaters).
crisdecuba
Member
Exactly.
Hopefully both Xenon and Rev have wireless controllers as the standard, then we won't argue about who led to what.
~Cris
siamesedreamer
Banned
As long as the Xbox Live headset still plugs into the controller I'm all for this.
How would they do the voice though? Does Bluetooth support voice?
How would they do the voice though? Does Bluetooth support voice?
Reanimated
Banned
crisdecuba said:Exactly.
Hopefully both Xenon and Rev have wireless controllers as the standard, then we won't argue about who led to what.
~Cris
Except for the fact that Xenon will be out at least 6 months before Rev.
:lol
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.Timbuktu said:
The D-pad cross-shape was specifically patented by Nintendo, yes, but directional-disc/non-joystick input and shoulder buttons were on the Intellivision.
Force Feedback controllers were also on PCs before N64 released the add-on. There's some supplemental proof here for some of this.
crisdecuba
Member
Yeah, but they'll both be announced by E3. We should know by then.
~Cris
~Cris
I have a great idea for wireless.
The console has controller ports, but it's only for the Wireless Controller Power Cord.
The Wireless Controllers have rechargable batteries.
When the battery starts to run down, you plug it in to the console and continue to play while it charges.
The console has controller ports, but it's only for the Wireless Controller Power Cord.
The Wireless Controllers have rechargable batteries.
When the battery starts to run down, you plug it in to the console and continue to play while it charges.
BuckRobotron
Member
olimario said:
Not at all in my experience. Even in retail stores I've overheard or been involved in conversations about GC that eventually involve discussion about Wavebird and the lack of rumble is a common point of dismissal.
I have a Wavebird that my brother gave me after selling his GC, and tried it just to see it not go to waste and all of a sudden my Handcannon in RE4 seems to have no punch. Vibration is a big deal for GC fans that are primarily RE fans (similarly, I "needed" a rumble pak for DC after getting RECV). Went right back to the regular controller.
An excellent, standard wireless controller with requisite full vibration function for the next generation cosoles would be welcome.
BuckRobotron
Member
shpankey said:
How does it stand up to the likes of DMC, Onimusha 2, etc that put a toll on the regular PS2 controller? Both of my current PS2 controllers have one or more caved-in shoulder buttons (I choose which controller to use based on which shoulder button(s) aren't necessary for a given game...).
I've had my eye on the Logitech PS2 Wireless but don't want to see a more expensive piece of kit also collapse on me.
dog$ said:
Thanks, those are some nice facts. It's still nice that those features have become standards today, rather than staying as gimmicks. Full featured wireless controllers seem like a logical step and Oli's idea seems pretty good, but I'd think people would still want to have a cheaper wired option since wireless doesn't directly affect gameplay/game design.
Smiles and Cries
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so many months away 