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[thorns]

Many people are understating the hardware design of Xbox 360, just because of the CELL numbers sony has been throwing around.

Can we say that Microsoft has crafted a very powerful console for 2005?

It is much more impressive than Xbox 1 was at the time of its release, and it is obvious they were taking the design of the hardware very very seriously this time around. Seriously, MS is not an electronics company, they do not have the resources nor expertise Sony has when it comes to designing the hardware. CELL is a multi billion dollar venture that took many, many years of research and development. The fact they came up with something comparable to PS3 while launching early says how much effort they put into designing the hardware.

Just looking at the specs, anyone should be impressed for being able to play on a machine with such power in less than 6 months.

 

[human5892]

Can we say that Microsoft has crafted a very powerful console for 2005?

I think that's fair to say.

I'm not sure to what extent the 360 is "comparable" to the PS3, though. I guess we'll have to see about that.

 

[sonycowboy]

But, if, and I do say if, the PS3 is twice as powerful as the Xbox360, then it's not quite as impressive.

What Microsoft, at this point, is concerned with is the games, not the hardware. The hardware is locked and there's nothing they can do with it. The games are what will drive the hardware purchase, not the promise of some arbitrary numbers.

 

[FiRez]

Many people are understating the hardware design of Xbox 360, just because of the CELL numbers sony has been throwing around.

Can we say that Microsoft has crafted a very powerful console for 2005?

It is much more impressive than Xbox 1 was at the time of its release, and it is obvious they were taking the design of the hardware very very seriously this time around. Seriously, MS is not an electronics company, they do not have the resources nor expertise Sony has when it comes to designing the hardware. CELL is a multi billion dollar venture that took many, many years of research and development. The fact they came up with something comparable to PS3 while launching early says how much effort they put into designing the hardware.

Just looking at the specs, anyone should be impressed for being able to play on a machine with such power in less than 6 months.

yes, if you compare both console specs you will notice that
but...........Shame on MS for not showing pre-rendered "tech demos"

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Hi. How are you? Are you here to sell Sony products? No?


THEN YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP TRYING.


and that concludes the GAF weather report for today.

 

[AB 101]

Boy, MS didn't cut themselves any slack in regards to launch.

I see games going to master at the latest possible second.

 

[3rdman]

Boy, MS didn't cut themselves any slack in regards to launch.

I see games going to master at the latest possible second.

People have been repeating this mantra for quite some time now but its the same thing they did in 2001. Devs are aiming at 360 specs regardless of devkit.

 

[sonycowboy]

People have been repeating this mantra for quite some time now but its the same thing they did in 2001. Devs are aiming at 360 specs regardless of devkit.

I'm aiming at 2022 specs, regardless of devkits. I think I'll hit it. :lol

At some point, you do have to have some iterative development time on FINAL hardware. Of course, the PS2 has the EXACT same problem in 2000, and reportedly with a dev environment that should have caused developers to commit suicide.

 

[dorio]

People have been repeating this mantra for quite some time now but its the same thing they did in 2001. Devs are aiming at 360 specs regardless of devkit.

The fact is that no one knows shit until final hardware is in the hands of developers.

 

[Stinkles]

I haven't spoken to a single developer who thinks the PS3 and 360 are anything other than very similar as far as paper/performance goes.

We will all have to wait.

 

[Pug]

AB101, Launch games going to print at the last second, Never. And of course Sony wont be doing the same will they? I will answer that yes they will. By the way loads and loads of games are in development somtimes just 4 weeks before launch.

 

[Amir0x]

What's that you say? Order up another twelve PS3s sold thanks to this thread! You were informative and honest with the gaming public at large (GAF)!

 

[Deadwing_]

Numbers are nice and big.

But from what i've seen so far, it doesn't look like it's worthy of "OMGWTFBBQ". All i've seen so far is XTREMEBUMPMAAPPPPZZZ and OMG40'000CHARACTERSONSCREEN which degrades the point of gameplay to a factor of nil. Developers, and Microsoft, need to understand that big flashy plastic looking humans attempting to fight the fifty million normal-mapped alien bugs with their super-powered mini-guns and repeptition of curse words - is not progress. It's giving in. You can tell this by going onto Live now and listening to the 12 year olds shouting out "OMG I JUST SHOTE YOU IN T3H FACEEEEE!!! I ROCK!!!!!!!".

When i see a decent game, you know, with gameplay, and depth. I'll be impressed. So far no-one at E3 has shown me that. Apart from, maybe Zelda.

 

[Ryck]

But, if, and I do say if, the PS3 is twice as powerful as the Xbox360, then it's not quite as impressive.

See thats what I want to know how much more powerful is the Ps3?

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Maybe they're planning on throwing out the big wowowow factor at an X05 event. Certainly, that kind event (in the fall) would be a lot more effective than any E3 could ever be. Unless you're launching not too long after, E3's buzz fades well before a fall launch. For MS and the developers working on X360, the event would be the best timing for showing off then near-final games that have had the chance to be optimized on final hardware and would only precede the launch date by a few months...keeping the hype fresh in the minds of potential buyers until the system and first wave games are released. It'd also be a pretty good place to debut stuff...as Bungie can vouch for.

The only real downside to not having a mindblazingly good E3 is that you risk having some disappointed gamers and give some of that hype and positive perception to the competitor. But then, if your pre-launch marketing, information updates, and fall event kick ass, it doesn't much matter and a non earth-shattering E3 showing (from what seems like ages earlier) means nothing anyway.